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On a different subject,..........in what city in Colombia do the mothers teach their daughters how to cook ??   The two I met in Bogota were the worst at it. Rice, beans, chicken !.......that`s it !  every night, too.   Sorry,....sometimes she`d leave out the chicken, to be different.  One in Peru didn`t even know what a frying pan was.   I  know I can`t be the only one with this complait (smile), but where do you find the ones that can even cook alittle, instead of going out all the time.   Now, I don`t know if anyone can make the same claims as me,......but I never had a Latin Women cook a meal for me when I went to visit them,.....it was always going out to eat.   Go ahead Houndog, and Bret.    Shoot me again !!!!   But it`s the truth. Do these Latin Women have something against cooking, too ???  I can pick them, can`t I, Houndog ???? (smile)

... in response to cooking, posted by Ron on May 21, 2001

Ron,
There is a wide variety of cooking skill with the Colombian women,much more so than here,because there are alot of them who were never taught or allowed to cook.
One well known example is the upper class girl who never learned to cook because someone,a servant,always did it for them.They also didn't have to clean for the same reason.I have heard stories,particularly with the cleaning,of I don't clean,hire a maid.Problem is maids and housecleaners here make alot of money,more than your Colombiana is likely to earn if she can get a job.How they handle not cooking I don't know.Maybe they want to eat out alot.
On the other end of the spectrum is the girl raised by relatives who is considered the cleaning woman and is not allowed to cook,thats one level above her status.
Fortunately there are alot of middle class women who were
taught to cook by their mothers,similar to here.They can be quite creative in making a meal out of alot of different foods,whatever is available.They can do wonders with simple items.
Fortunately I am married to the latter type of woman.She is very happy,however that I allowed ger to hire a housecleaner.I always had one before because I wasn't going to do it,so this seemed fair.She did a very good job when she cleaned but really didn't like doing it.It seemed the job sort of expanded and she would spend all day on it.Now we have three cleaning ladies who breeze through here in about 30 miniutes.
One more comment.Colombia seems to have a pay a nd status system that starts with menial workers on the bottom,skilled workers next,then office and clerical workers,then professionals.Plumbers don't make more than bank managers there.There is an adjustment in thinking required by this because labor is so expensive here.My wife was appaled when a lady charger her $20 to take in her dress."TWENTY DOLLARS SEW MY DRESS??!!"That about 2 days pay in Colombia.

Pete

... in response to Re: cooking, posted by Pete Eiguren on May 21, 2001

Pete,.......a real thanks for all the information you gave me,.....not only on the cooking part,.....but how women are in different sections, and how they are brought up etc.  Everyone should be copy down what you told us.  I didn`t know it was like that, there.  Do you have any idea in what level the girls come from, when they go to these agencies seeking a mate ??  Do the poorer, middle class, or even high class go to these more ??   Would a certain agency just have (say) middle class, while another might have high class etc. ???  That  information on "education-job", you gave was great !!!!!!    Thanks again !!!!   Ron

... in response to Re: cooking, posted by Pete Eiguren on May 21, 2001

Hey y'all bachelors:

  Surely your fiance's cooking cannot be worst than any bachelor's cooking on this board.
  My cooking produces three types of food-burnt, more burnt, and charcoal black!!
  My fiance might only be able to cook and bake a few things, but at least when the food is done, it is delicious and nutritious unlike mine cooking which produces foods with the taste which is the  consistency of cardboard and tastes REAL BAD!
  I found the food down there delicious and don't mind simple, good food!

                                     Larry in Big "D"

... in response to Houndog & Pete E.  Invite me to dinn..., posted by Larry in Dallas on May 22, 2001

You'd think, that the way some guys post, that their culinary skills rival Julia Childs or the other T.V. chefs! Once you focus in on "ONE" particular lady, she'll know it. She'll offer to cook for you at her home....
ONCE YOU'VE EARNED THE PRIVILEDGE!!!! For you newbies going south, don't expect home cooking too soon. As an example, how many of you, got invited to a ladies home after the first date, and received a home cooked meal?

I hear ya Big D, about bachelor cooking. How many times have you smoked out your kitchen?...ROTFLMAO!!!!

Peace...Hoda

... in response to Houndog & Pete E.  Invite me to dinn..., posted by Larry in Dallas on May 22, 2001

Well Larry, I don't know about rice & beans...my lady likes to cook baked fish with an assortment of veggies, cooked just right. And when she saw the barbque grill in the back yard, her eyes lit up.  And your more than welcome to visit and bring Niyadan...LE's house will be spotless....she cleans "Her House" with a smile. I did have to show her how to use the vacum cleaner(carpeted houses are unusual in LA)...and yes I change the bags, for her :-).

I feel sorry for the guys that have to play Mr. Mom...just to have a girl. However maybe these guys are afraid to define roles.  I explained to my girl that Team Work was the road to a long happy relationship with me, and she agreed.  

Regards, Houndog

... in response to Re: Houndog & Pete E.  Invite me to ..., posted by Houndog on May 22, 2001

You can get a vacum that doesn't use bags, a lot of them have HEPA filters on them and will keep the dust down too.  I had an old crusty hoover and I upgraded to a Fantom, it's about 10 times better, and you get attachments so you can easily pull down cobwebs and stuff.  Definately worth it if you have an old style vacum cleaner.  They cost about 100 to 150 US$.

I had an ex girlfriend that had asthma, and she turned me on to it.

... in response to Re: Houndog & Pete E.  Invite me to ..., posted by Houndog on May 22, 2001

Ha ha. The other day I was talking to Y. and told her "Well, I have to go do my lanudry or I won't have anything to wear to work tomorrow" and she said "It won't be dry in time" and I said "Sure it will, I'll just put it in the machine" She said "Of course, a machine to wash the clothes, but you still have to hang them up to dry". I said "No, here we have machines to dry them too" and she was amazed!  ....gee, guess I better not tell her I have a dishwasher, I'll save that one for a suprize.

... in response to Re: Re: Houndog & Pete E.  Invite me..., posted by Michael B on May 22, 2001

Oh man, it's been a trip...dishwasher...LOL...Micro-Wave..have'nt even thought about that yet...garbage disposal...trash compacter...LOL...hot water for hours...mail at the curb...Central A/C....LE has been like a kid at Disney Land...and I took her to a local dinky mall and she said...wow...Grande....I was laughing and told her...no piquito...muy piquito...and she just could'nt get it....wait till she see's the Galleria....LOL...she won't believe her eyes.

Later...BTW...you and Y are invited down also...anytime..

Houndog

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Houndog & Pete E.  Invit..., posted by Houndog on May 22, 2001

when you say she just couldn't get it, maybe she didn't  understand you (piquito) if you want to say tiny, then say chiquito or pequeno (with the tilde over the n) maybe you meant poquito, which means a little, like, do you like fish? un poquito, a little.

... in response to cooking, posted by Ron on May 21, 2001

My lady is cookin right now

Hey BTW...did the ladies you picked at least pass the Heart Beat Test ???????

LOL, HD

... in response to cooking, posted by Ron on May 21, 2001

There you go again....NEGATIVE, NEGATIVE, NEGATIVE in regards to your experiences down south. Why don't you just forget about going south & head over to Russia or the Far east. Your "Picker" in regards to women is out of whack. Or shall I say, your "Picker" is whack!!! Wipe your tears & lick your wounds.....

Later

p.s. No addy, no respect!!!!

... in response to Daayuumm Dude, posted by Hodajr on May 21, 2001

Are you from the hood?

... in response to Re: Daayuumm Dude, posted by david on May 21, 2001

Are you WEARING A HOOD????

... in response to Daayuummm Dude, posted by Hodajr on May 21, 2001

Touche!!! Ouch......

... in response to cooking, posted by Ron on May 21, 2001

I have been married for over two years to a beautiful
Colombia woman. She can not COOK at all, i do the cooking.
She come from the upper class family, had maids and the
father was a high ranking officer. She does not know
how to really clean the house.
Be carful of what you wish for,,,you might just have it...

... in response to Re: cooking, posted by acatman on May 21, 2001

Hey bud,
I am marrying a girl that is considered on the poor side...about cooking, whenever I am down there there is always fish and plantains, and eggs waiting for me on the table.  Funny story, we got in our first arguement last time I was down there and left our apt to get some air...when I came back, there was my girl cooking me 3 hamburgers with a smile on her face as if nothing had happened.

'Poor' has something to be said for....

Later,
Mike

... in response to Re: Re: cooking, posted by JunFan68 on May 21, 2001

Yo Bro,

Same scenario here, Stivalis & I had a, ahem... Banging of the heads one time. I stepped out to the store & when I got back...lunch was being served. We discussed what had made us angry & settled right there. Man, do they know how to, ahem....make-up!

"Poor" has something to be said for... Mike, this statement is priceless my man! As you and others have seen, many of our ladies have little in their pockets, but what they give us can't be measured in $$$$$$

Peace...Hoda

... in response to Re: cooking, posted by acatman on May 21, 2001

i have a friend been married a little over a year to a beautiful calena , but similar to your situation actman she comes from a family with some money , not rich but well off by colombian standards . she knows nothing about cleaning or cooking , etc . he does it all. she watches spanish soaps all day.

... in response to cooking, posted by Ron on May 21, 2001

the really poor women can cook , but if they have any money at all they have maids to do all that. the same in brazil , i was talking to my brazillian friends (the girls) that live here now , they were complaining all over the place because they now had to learn how to cook , they had never cooked before they had maids do everything for them in sau paulo . spoiled!