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Hi everyone.  Hey Bear?  I might just have to take you up on that bet about every married guy on this board being able to give me the names and addresses of at least 5 filapinas looking for husbands.  Honest filapinas.  And I don't want to have to start singing "Who Let the Dogs Out", either!  ;-)  JK

   Seriously though, if things don't work out for me and Rossana (the vixen in question) I may ask for some of those names.  At 41 I am getting very tired of playing games.  I'm sure most of you out there understand.  I have NO kids yet, and I am just a common hard working laborer with aspirations of maybe becoming a writer. What I was trying to accomplish with Rossana was to find a loving filapina mate who was young enough to have a few kids before I get to old to enjoy them.  I have a definite weak spot for filipinas, they're very beautiful.  It just seems so hard to find ones that are on the level, and when you do...well let me tell you about the first filipina I started writing to.  I thought she was very pretty and I figured that maybe if I wrote to her she'd write me back.  Write me back she did, she wrote me saying "I am sorry, but I am getting married this week so I cannot talk to you", so since she liked my letter, she 'gave me to her sister'!  BTW, I know this is a common practice, but I think it's cute, anyway.  My point being that almost as soon as I locate the good ones, someone else marries them.

    Someone was saying that I shouldn't give up on american girls, but let's face it, they don't want to get married.  They USED to, when I was young, but now it's all about their 'independence'.  Trust me, I have had enough american girls to know.  I need someone who needs me back and american women just don't cut it.  They don't want to be a pair, they want to be an island.  They don't want a family, they want a full-time carreer.  So I say, "let them".  Just don't ask me to settle for it.

    It seems that the women in the Philippines have a more family-oriented view of things, just like I do.  I think a filipina is perfect for me, and I her.  So, anyway, that's where I stand.  Just thought you'd like to know.  Peace.  :-)

The Sunwolf

... in response to Bear's wager..., posted by Sunwolf on Jan 10, 2002

not one day goes by that a beautiful, sincere lady ask me if i have any friends. its not the idea of excape from the philippines, but they are looking for honest dependable men.
if a filipino loves you, she loves you..............she will fight for you and die for you, she doesnt care what you have, she just wants to be treated nice.
forget the chat rooms, they are full of 14 yr old school girls, and it takes 3 to write one e-mail.
look at the ladies photo on here.
my wife treats me much better than i ever thought i could be treated. she cares for me and looks after me, so unlike my last wife , an american woman, who looked at everything in life as a burden and wanted the world to look after her, and her alone. in other words, she just wanted to be me! doing her on thing and not caring for anyone else or anything else.
jim

... in response to Bear's wager..., posted by Sunwolf on Jan 10, 2002

Question. In your post you say that you would "insist" your pinay wife work, but in another post you say you don't like american women because they want a career??
Which is it?? Sorry but you can't have it both ways.
Just my $.02 worth

... in response to careers and working, posted by Lori on Jan 11, 2002

I do not want Marissa to work.  But she insist if it is nescessary she will.  My ex-wife watched me have a heart attack and lose everything to bancruptcy and never picked up the wantads.

There are always times when no matter how hard you plan and work the undesired occurs and I am grateful that Marissa wants to help where my "ex" refused to even consider it.

Bear

... in response to Re: careers and working, posted by Bear on Jan 11, 2002

Bear , your ex-wife was a selfish, slef centered woman, who should rot in H***. I know that sounds harsh. But man, she was bad!!!

... in response to Bear's wager..., posted by Sunwolf on Jan 10, 2002

that was real sweet and increditably sensitive and loving.  She has a son from a husband who got her pregnant then decided to move in with another girl and get her pregnant.  She gave him an annulment and no man there will have anything to do with her now.  I think she would have been an awesome wife and very pretty too.

I do have 3 or 4 others but this one is special.  Plus some of Marissa's family and friends have asked if I know someone.

Let me know.

Bear

... in response to I've got one..., posted by Bear on Jan 10, 2002

Sure bear.  I'll look into anything at this point, and this girl sounds like a really nice lady.  You know the e-mail addy, so go on ahead nad I will write to her and see if we hit it off, ok?  You truly are too kind.

The Sunwolf.

... in response to I've got one..., posted by Bear on Jan 10, 2002

But I am interested...

Thanks;
Jeff2

... in response to Bear's wager..., posted by Sunwolf on Jan 10, 2002

It feels more "typical" than writing blindly.  Of course, an introduction from Wisconsin will be tough to get; I have not found very many Filipinos here.  :)

Maybe the wager of five good names will come stand.  :)

Jeff2

... in response to I like the idea of being introduced too...., posted by Jeff2 on Jan 10, 2002

Yes, I think it is alot safer to be introduce to someone from someone you know. That way you are not wasting time going into a relationship blindly. Spending a year or so on a girl, and then finding out she is not who you thought she was, can be devestating, I'd think.
One reason I have a "peace of mind" about Thai, because I know his family well.
Good luck to those who have not found the "right one" yet.

... in response to Re: I like the idea of being introduced ..., posted by Lori on Jan 11, 2002

but, it is still somewhere to start.  Obviously, the traditional methods for meeting and marrying a person from a different culture or country do work, as we have several people here that have succeeded, but I would think the introduction would start you out a little farther ahead.

Good luck on your trip.

Jeff2

... in response to I think it is only a little less blind....., posted by Jeff2 on Jan 11, 2002

of course, anyone who gets married are taking chances that things will not be as they seem.
Life is a bowl of chances, where everyone must take one at some time in thier lives.

... in response to Re: I think it is only a little less bli..., posted by Lori on Jan 12, 2002

Nope, none

Jeff2

... in response to Bear's wager..., posted by Sunwolf on Jan 10, 2002

Glad to hear that you are interested.

I began writing to about 80 ladies in 4-99.  By 4-00 I had narrowed it down to Tess and I went to see her in Manila.  Tess and I got married in December, 2000.

BUT....I do have some ladies names that I would be glad to pass along to you if you are interested.  I did not find the ladies had to communicate with or that they would want to play games.  The ones that I wrote were quite nice.  If you are interested I will be glad to share some names with you.

Stephen

... in response to Re: Bear's wager..., posted by Stephen on Jan 10, 2002

Thanks Stephen, but I am presently pursuing Bear's suggested prospect at the moment.  I'll let you know if it doesn't pan out between me and her.  I appreciate your offer, though.  I'll keep you in mind.  Take care.

The Sunwolf

... in response to Re: Re: Bear's wager..., posted by The Sunwolf on Jan 11, 2002

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... in response to Bear's wager..., posted by Sunwolf on Jan 10, 2002

That Filipinas just want to stay at home and take care of families.  Although we value family, not ALL of them want to stay home.  I am pursuing a career but I'm not neglecting my family either.  I think I'm very balanced.  Besides, I just don't want to sit at home while my husband work his butt off.  I do want to buy him anniversary gifts from MY own money and not get it from the family coffers.

I may have a fine Filipina for you.  I just have to email her first.

... in response to Another misconception...., posted by Carrisse on Jan 10, 2002

Here's another misconception for ya Carrisse.  How about the misconceived notion that I said anything about not wanting my partner to work?  What I said was that american women are now too enamored of their careers to even want one child.  Work can't be everything, and I want kids.  Most filipinas I know of want a family, too.  That's why I like them, and I am not very impressed with the american breed.  No offense, but please restrict your comments to what I ACTUALLY say, rather than what you assume I am saying.  Maybe we can be friends.

Thank you,
The Sunwolf

... in response to Re: Another misconception...., posted by The Sunwolf on Jan 11, 2002

Here's what you said about AWs:

... in response to Another misconception...., posted by Carrisse on Jan 10, 2002

for clearing that one up for us. Of all the Filipino and Fil-Am couples I've known here in the States, I cannot think of one where the wife didn't work full time outside the home. And it's not always for financial reasons either. Many times it's just to stay active or relieve the boredom.

Just a comment about the money thing. If you and your husband have a good understanding about family financial matters, that’s great. But I have seen numerous marriages in serious trouble because one or both of the partners insist on separating earnings into his and hers. If the wife goes to work and then claims that all her wages are Her money to do with as She alone decides, then there could be very serious friction in the marriage, unless of course this arrangement was mutually agreed upon in advance. I have noticed that many Filipinas in particular think this way, so it’s just one more possible cultural difference to investigate and consider. But as always, communication and mutual understanding before marriage is of utmost importance to a successful relationship.

I always enjoy your posts.

Ray

... in response to Thanks Carrisse..., posted by Ray on Jan 11, 2002

It boils down to the "weness" mentality of the marriage.  Granted each partner should have some discretionary money for minor things.  Big ticket things should mutually be agreed upon on first.

In my opinion in a good marriage, it's "our" money.  But both spouses must think that way, and the American male must be sure he's talking WITH her as opposed to talking AT her in addressing the issue.  My ex-wife and many others exhibited the "What's mine is mine, what's your's is mine" mentality.  With my girlfriend after the divorce, I was really testing the waters regarding money matters and financial issues to be addressed.  I'd voice my concerns what had to be considered first.  In one ear and out the other.  She expected my to be solely responsible for all issues pertaining to our relationship, and expected me to dole out the dough on demand.  In the end, a friend of hers (married in a fly-by-night Vegas wedding) had the same mentality, and I knew I'd be in trouble if I married this woman.

- Kevin

... in response to Another misconception...., posted by Carrisse on Jan 10, 2002

Most Filipinas in the Philippines work as well as take care of the household chores.  Only the quite wealthy do not work unless they wish to.

I have often said and observed that the only thing keeping the Philippines going is their women.  While so many of the men are messing around, drinking, gambling, going to cockfights, and whoring around as best they can, the women are working very, very hard -- diligently and honestly, for the most part.

Most of the Filipinas I know in the US are exactly the same.

Not all the men are bad and lazy, but if the Philippines didn't have women of such character the country would not run at ALL.

Paulv

... in response to Another misconception...., posted by Carrisse on Jan 10, 2002

I think Im in love...heheheheh...just kidding...nice post
carrisse (^_^)