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Just returned from a 2 week trip to the Philippines and met my "mahal"!!! In the past I had dated mostly Ladies in the 20s, this is my first experience with teenagers (18-19 years). My love is addicted to her cell-phone and it drove me absolutely insane.

I realize that this is part of her life-style and trying to have her not message with the phone is akin to asking her not to talk - but still, I found it very difficult. When sitting at the beach, holding hands, her other hand firmly clutched the cellular phone. When trying to bring the subject of our conversation to something serious (like our future...) surely enough we were interrupted by one of her cousins texting her, where we are, what we are doing or just wishing a happy evening. Also, the sheer number of "sweet" messages being texted and forwarded every day makes words like "I love you" sound less sincere. (My love sent me a very very sweet message - at least I thought so, until I found out that she simply forwarded a message to me that she had received herself...)

How do you deal with this cell-phone craze???

... in response to The cell-phone craze, posted by cc on Mar 24, 2001

what is your age?

... in response to her age....your age....just curious, posted by outwest on Mar 25, 2001

I am a little shy about this, hahaha - but I will post a few pictures next week, so you can guess for yourself. Most of my penpals are in their early 20s, so dating someone less than 20 was a new experience for me and this cell-phone thing did put a huge question mark on it, I admit...

... in response to Re: her age....your age....just curious, posted by cc on Mar 25, 2001

I am over 40 and under 45...hehe, and have no earthly idea
what age i will go for on the bottom side, i have a friend
who is 45 who just got a 20 year old angel from cebu, and
she is almost here on her k1, so, i think thats too young,
but, man she is cute, so, i would prefer 30 or so, but
its a lot harder to find one that age, with no kids, etc.
i dont know wat to think

... in response to Re: Re: her age....your age....just curi..., posted by outwest on Mar 25, 2001

If you're really SINCERE about meeting a lady in her early 30's, my wife and I know a wonderful lady (who's integrity, I can vouch for ,personally)from the Davao area...never married, no kids, a Christian...It would involve snail mail...if you're interested, email us....Mike and Lyn

... in response to outwest..., posted by MikeR on Mar 26, 2001

thanks, I may take you up on it, but i am going to rest
a month or so, I am exausted from all my recent stresses
with penpals. Thanks very much though

... in response to Re: Re: her age....your age....just curi..., posted by outwest on Mar 25, 2001

I don't think there should be some limit upside or downside - let love fall wherever it may - however based on my very recent experience, early 20s seems to be quite a bit more mature than late teens (surprise, surprise...).

Nevertheless, I now find myself hopelessly in love with a 19 year old cell phone addict ;-)

Also keep in mind that a 19 year old Filipina (in most cases) is MUCH more mature than a 25 year old American!

... in response to Re: Re: Re: her age....your age....just ..., posted by cc on Mar 25, 2001

cc,

I guess if the cell phone addiction is her only fault, you can learn to live with it :-)

But those text messages across the ocean are a lot cheaper than calling long distance, if you just want to say hi and stay in touch daily. It will cost her around P2.00 to send a message to your e-mail box and it will cost nothing for you to send an SMS to her.

Ray

... in response to Re: Re: her age....your age....just curi..., posted by outwest on Mar 25, 2001

Out,

Actually, there are quite a few Filipinas over there in their 30s & 40s, never married, no children. But you’re not likely to find them in the Internet chat rooms. I think the best way to meet some nice ladies is through personal intros. If you have any Filipino friends or co-workers, that’s a good place to start. Here in San Diego, I’ve had dozens of Filipina friends try to set me up with relatives or friends back home. They’re out there, but you just have to look in the right places.

Those young girls may look hot, but a more mature woman is refreshing to be with. Just my thoughts.

Good luck.

Ray

... in response to Re: Re: her age....your age....just curi..., posted by outwest on Mar 25, 2001

outwest,

you would like to have a filipina, i could recommend you to her if your a good man. She is professional, she is from cebu but assigned to worked in manila. I think she is between 27-30. she is a friend of my bestfriend which i've known her for a long time.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: her age....your age....just ..., posted by carrie on Mar 25, 2001

thanks for the offer,
i may take you up on it, i have to have a breather of
a month or so before I dive in again.

... in response to The cell-phone craze, posted by cc on Mar 24, 2001

You'd think the PI is a rich country when you see all these teenagers clutching their cellphones.

It's a status symbol nowadays in PI.  My nieces have each and they are always emailing me asking me to send them text messages.  I couldn't even keep up with answering my emails.
No one talks to anyone anymore---with all these communication gizmos.  I wish we'd go back to the old days. Oh well. Just try to deal with it, at least she's not on drugs or some other vices. Believe me, these teenagers will try anything to fit in with their peers.

Uhhhh, why not try to find someone who is more your age? Not judging your choices--just making a suggestion.

... in response to The cell-phone craze, posted by cc on Mar 24, 2001

cc,

I totally agree with you. The cellphone craze is out of control in the PI. My fiancee is very "low tech" and thus doesn't own one. Which makes me a VERY happy man. Two of her younger sisters do. They walk around all day starring at the screen and typing messages. These two beautiful, bright, educated young women, appear to be zombies. They can't let go of those da*n things. I jokingly wondered if maybe they were even texting each other in the same house. Who knows? Wherever I went, I saw the same thing, with other ladies. It really made me sad to see these little boxes rule their lives. I thought Miami was bad, but it isn't even close yet.

It seems that paradise is changing quickly. Along with the cellphone craze, a new attitude from the West has taken root among many of the younger generation. Me Me Me...mo money...Me Me Me!

Dave H.

... in response to The cell-phone craze, posted by cc on Mar 24, 2001

Don’t worry cc, she’ll grow out of it (in about 10-15 years). However, I think Jay’s solution is the most effective for the short term (ROTFLMAO!)

Ray

... in response to Re: The cell-phone craze, posted by Ray on Mar 24, 2001

Well, I surely hope so. Did you know that there are little video games built into these phones? This way even the 5 to 10 year old kids get hooked onto using these devices from hell...

... in response to The cell-phone craze, posted by cc on Mar 24, 2001

cc

This explains why my cellphone business is doing very gooood. Pinays seldom use cellphone to call, they text most of the time cuz its cheaper P1.00/message... mostly jokes pass on by friends not really urgent messages. Its like a security blanket for them.  How to deal with them??  You'll get used to it, somehow...         rgg

... in response to Re: The cell-phone craze, posted by rgg on Mar 24, 2001

"not really urgent messages" - that hits it right on the nail! I found, the only way I could deal with this constant influx of messages was to (pretend to) take a very active interest in this and have her show me and translate every single one. But what a "yawn"...

I am sure it's a generational thing. For the first time I begin to understand why my parents (in their 70s) have no interest in e-mail or the internet whatsoever...

... in response to Re: The cell-phone craze, posted by rgg on Mar 24, 2001

it might not be that much different than us Kanos exchanging fart stories on e-mail.  LOL

- Kevin

... in response to I suppose . . ., posted by kevin on Mar 24, 2001

Grow up,,,its old!!!!

... in response to Re: I suppose . . ., posted by SteveB on Mar 25, 2001

- Kevin

... in response to Go to Hell (n/t)!, posted by kevin on Mar 26, 2001

I find the fart stories funny as long as they are not addressed to me smile. Anyway I enjoy reading your posts about your ex Pinays hehehehe. :-) greg

... in response to Re: I suppose . . ., posted by SteveB on Mar 25, 2001

Steve you make me sick! lol

... in response to The cell-phone craze, posted by cc on Mar 24, 2001

nice looking lady....CHERRY.  Did you see her?

Stephen

PS:  She was HOT!!!!

... in response to Hey, whatever happend to that....., posted by Stephen on Mar 24, 2001

Hi Stephen - well, I proposed to Cherry several times and got only the most vague answers. Then this January she moved to Japan to work as an "entertainer" - despite my pleading not to. Haven't heard from her since, so I decided it is time to move on. Yes, Cherry was really hot and had a great personality - always laughing and making some jokes. I surely miss her and pray that she is alright in Japan.

My new mahal is also very very sweet, but I surely have a strange "talent" to choose my women... she is a full-blooded Ilocana and I now have a new idea what it means to be part of a clan. I stayed with her family for 1 week and we NEVER were alone, I mean not one single minute. There was always a minimum of 3 chaperones around, wherever we went, but more usual 5 to 10... She also hinted that she would prefer me to live in the Philippines rather than her going abroad! Well, at least I can be certain that she isn't a green-card shark.... but I am not sure whether I am up to the "challenge"....

If I have time I will scan and post a few pictures next week.

... in response to what happend to my previous love....!!!, posted by cc on Mar 25, 2001

The course in life which Cherry has chosen must have been heartbreaking for you.  You truly care for her and you know that she is entering something which can be very dangerous.  Many times in the Phils we are constantly bombarded with so many tragic situations and we just want to rescue everyone of these nice ladies who have found themselves in harms way.  Unfortunately all too often we can be nothing more than spectators as we see an otherwise good lady being destroyed by a poverty which we do not have the power to end.  I just wish I could take every girl who wants to go to school and give her a scholarship.  I wish I could find work in her hometown for every lady who is forced to work as a slave as a OCW.  What a tragedy to lose even one Cherry.  If you are a soft-hearted individual like myself, the Philippines can break your heart.

When I was a baby,  I was in an convent hospital in Spain available for adoption.  My mother went there one day and asked the nun to see a newborn baby boy and she brought me to her.  From that blessed moment, I suddenly had two parents who adored me. I lived on base housing with all the luxuries which are common to americans.  I eventually received the best education and encouragement to succeed.  Sometimes I think of the other baby boys who though as talented were left behind to toil in the fields just to survive.  This is the reason that I cannot bear to pick one filipina knowing that those to don't catch "The American Dream" as one filipina put it will be left behind to struggle in the poverty of their country.  I think it is the memory of the great ladies who hope to come to America which will ultimately cause me to stop this search.

Cecil

... in response to Re: what happend to my previous love......., posted by Cecil on Mar 25, 2001

Thanks for your very kind words - sometimes I don't know what maddens me more, the poverty in this Country (and so many like it), or the parents who allow their daughters to become OCWs or "entertainers"... We really forget all to easily how lucky we are...

I don't quite understand why you conclude that you cannot bear to pick one, knowing about those who are left behind...
also, it's not just you doing the choosing, it's also you who ultimately are being chosen. In my case for example, Cherry made her choice a few months ago...

In case you missed it last year, here are the links to pictures of me with Cherry:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Suite/4657/cherry-1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Suite/4657/cherry-2.jpg

... in response to The cell-phone craze, posted by cc on Mar 24, 2001

cc,
My Mahal's phone drove us crazy at first too, when I was there recently. I  too had to lay down the law..I told her the thing has got to go when were out doing things, when we returned to the places we were staying we decided mutually on turning it on only for one a 1/2 Hour, morning, noon and night. No problem.

Funny thing, then just two weeks after I got back here it was stolen from her. Then I was party to exclaiming to her the urgency of getting another one quickly..cause I couldn't bear not to talk to her everyday..Ha ha..

Zeb

... in response to Crazy for a cell phone.., posted by Zebson on Mar 24, 2001

You are lucky, cause you said it drove "us" crazy - in our case it was just me driven to insanity - I didn't know I had that much jealousy within myself!!!

... in response to The cell-phone craze, posted by cc on Mar 24, 2001

It's also rampant in Hong Kong. I was shocked to learn that about 70% of the population there has a personal cellphone. That's roughly 7 million phones for 10 million people, all within a geographic area about 50 miles square. Talk about a nightmare.

I am very proud of Wendy, she gave up owning a cellphone without comment when she arrived here. I haven't owned one for 8 years. I'll probably break down and buy a set when she starts working full-time, since that's when she'll be driving everyday in Houston's traffic. But for now - bliss.

Regards, Tim

... in response to Re: The cell-phone craze, posted by Tim on Mar 24, 2001

As the redneck in his 4wd pickup with the cowboy hat runs you off in the ditch. Been there. My condolences Wendy.
-- Jeff S.

... in response to The cell-phone craze, posted by cc on Mar 24, 2001

I must admit that the cell phone craze drove me insane also.
Vilma had purchased a cell phone before we met.  My solution to the problem was to be a gentleman.
I would offer to carry her phone for her, and of course I would turn it off before slipping it into my pocket.

Don

... in response to Re: The cell-phone craze, posted by don2222 on Mar 24, 2001

That's a great idea - I didn't know these d*** things had an off-switch (surely an oversight by the manufacturers!)...

... in response to Re: The cell-phone craze, posted by don2222 on Mar 24, 2001

Sterling idea...

... in response to The cell-phone craze, posted by cc on Mar 24, 2001

cc,

How bout next time your on the beach with your mahal and somebody text's her, you grab the phone and throw it in the ocean? This will get her attention. You can tell her you'll buy her another before you leave.

If she can't handle that, then find another "mahal".

That's how I would deal with the cell-phone craze.

Jay

... in response to Re: The cell-phone craze, posted by Jay on Mar 24, 2001

I couldn't bring myself to throwing it into the ocean, but at one point I told her "You love your cell phone more than me" (that was when I was sitting by myself watching the sunset and she was busy texting) - to which she protested "that is not true"! This made me feel a lot better - knowing just how much she loves this phone I can only imagine the depth of her love for me ;-)

... in response to Re: The cell-phone craze, posted by Jay on Mar 24, 2001

Sounds like you have trouble with relationships.

... in response to Bad Advice, posted by curt on Mar 24, 2001

Curt,

Just a suggestion, for what it’s worth. Instead your usual flames and snide remarks, why don’t you just post a response to cc with YOUR advice on how he should have handled this situation. You seem to enjoy putting others down for giving bad advice, but you offer nothing as an alternative. Constructive criticism is usually welcome, but your style makes you look like just another troll trying to start a flame war.

So, how about it Curt? If you’re such an expert on male-female relationships, maybe we could all benefit from your superior knowledge and years of experience. Please give us your credentials and enlighten us all. Please educate cc and the rest of us on how you would handle the cell phone dilemna.

Now you have a nice day.

Ray

... in response to Just My Opinion, posted by Ray on Mar 25, 2001

I agree with You. I notice that Curt only posts to flame a poster. TROLL is the exact word I was going to use to lable him myself hehehehe. :-) greg

... in response to Re: Just My Opinion-Ray, posted by greg on Mar 25, 2001

trashing someone else's property should be flamed.

... in response to Anyone that would consider, posted by curt on Mar 25, 2001

Jay is too kind. The water was too nice of a final resting place for that particular cellphone. I would have offered to carry it and accidentally slammed it into the concrete. I would have politely picked up all of the pieces and placed a rubber band around them, to hold it all together. Next, I would put the smaller pieces in a Ziplock bag. Then she would still something to carry around and stare at. Before I left, I would have replaced it with the same or a slightly better model. Then I would have said, "Don't call me, I'll call you."

Dave H.

... in response to Anyone that would consider, posted by curt on Mar 25, 2001

n/t

... in response to Anyone that would consider, posted by curt on Mar 25, 2001

Moderator? Did you happen to take over Patrick's job without our knowledge? hehehehehe. Did you vote yourself Police of Asian PL forum?? For goodness sake Curt, lighten up and enjoy yourself. :o)))) greg

... in response to Re: Just My Opinion-Ray, posted by greg on Mar 25, 2001

You can put Steve B in that boat too!

... in response to Re: Re: Just My Opinion-Ray, posted by humabdos on Mar 25, 2001

Hi!!! Buddy, Kumusta ka na? Yeah, I notice that Curt and SteveB only post to attack Posters. You  seem to carry a bull eye on your back lol..Did SteveB follow you all the way from Mag?? I'm trying to get Jingle Bell to come join PL. greg

... in response to Re: Re: Just My Opinion-Ray, posted by humabdos on Mar 25, 2001

I wholeheartly agree with with you. Our "good friend" Steve B. is far worse than those traditional trolls.  I have no respect or positive regard for that bastard.  As time accrues I dislike him more.  Someday that pious hypocrit will get what he deserves.

He thinks his s**t doesn't stink.  He's indulged in our misfortunes because of our failed relationships with Pinays.  Yet, once I crack a joke with no ill intentions with anybody with the object of ridicule.  The joke is taken the wrong way.  He butts in to make me look like the perpertator of taking joy in somebody else's misfortune.

"CRbike"!  You are an A-H.  I have no respect for you.  I hope to never meet you because I think if I did, I'd want to spit in your face!  You've mocked me enough!  I know who and what you are!

If you get taken by a golddigger, you will get no sympathy or compassion from me.  Your arrogance has earned you a few enemies.

- Kevin

... in response to Bad Advice, posted by curt on Mar 24, 2001

That's not what ya mama told me last night.

Jay

... in response to Re: Bad Advice, posted by Jay on Mar 25, 2001

n/t

... in response to LOL Jay !  N/T, posted by humabdos on Mar 25, 2001

Thank's Humboltos!

I thought it was funny, too. Dude must have a miserable existence. No sense of humor. Sayang....

Jay

... in response to Re: Bad Advice, posted by Jay on Mar 25, 2001

nt

... in response to Your post confirms my previous observati..., posted by curt on Mar 25, 2001

cbf,

Get a life, will 'ya!? Maybe a sense of humor while your at it. How long YOU been married?? You don't have anything better to do on a Saturday night, than to pick at peoples post's?? Jeeze!!

Jay

... in response to Re: Your post confirms my previous obser..., posted by Jay on Mar 25, 2001

gave bad advice.

... in response to I stand by my opinion that you, posted by curt on Mar 25, 2001

Fine, if that's your opinion, your entiltled to it.

Btw, I ain't Dear Abby, I just told the man what I might do in such a situation, although, I don't think I would ever be in that situation anyway. His question didn't seem all that serious, and niether was my reply.

... in response to Re: I stand by my opinion that you, posted by Jay on Mar 25, 2001

Actually, my question was serious - this was the first time I ran into the cell-phone craze in the Philippines and it put a huge shadow on my otherwise wonderful experience. I also doubt that IF you were in my situation, that you seriously would grab your loved ones belongings to throw them into the ocean. On the other hand, I must admit that it was a thought that had occurred to me too while I was there....

... in response to Re: I stand by my opinion that you, posted by Jay on Mar 25, 2001

Jay, Hey I think your right on the noise man. frankly, I could have seen myself do the same thing given the right set of circumstances...To me it's the perfect statement.. .John Wayne would have done it too!!

Zeb

... in response to Re: Re: I stand by my opinion that you, posted by Zebson on Mar 25, 2001

hahaha - I am not John Wayne, but who knows ;-)

... in response to Your post confirms my previous observati..., posted by curt on Mar 25, 2001

n/t

... in response to Bad Advice, posted by curt on Mar 24, 2001

Thats deep cbf...sounds like he was kidding and you are a bore.

tito

... in response to Re: The cell-phone craze, posted by Jay on Mar 24, 2001

nt