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Forgive my audacity for treading on male territory. :)

I'm a Filipina, living in the Philippines. I'm 22, and I'm interested in meeting guys close to my age.  

My profile can be accessed via this link:

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?emid=SYSRAZ

If you're interested, please post your profile, and click "yes" to me. :) If I like your profile, you'll hear from me.

Thank you. Please don't reply to my post here.  

... in response to Calling all cuties from all across the w..., posted by Tricia on Apr 1, 2003

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All she did is put in her profile, and she got blasted and was called names because of it. Man! Don't fault her for saying what she wants to say.

... in response to Calling all cuties from all across the w..., posted by Tricia on Apr 1, 2003

Please explain to these fine gentlemen here why your profile is written that way.

... in response to Tricia...., posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

Carr,
I wanted a little explanation about her profile too.  I can't understand why you would advertise and caution those who might be interested.

... in response to Re: Tricia...., posted by Mita on Apr 1, 2003

Hi Mita,

I think she is looking for a masochist! ;o)))

Dave H.

... in response to Tricia...., posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

That most of the guys here were turned off by the ad reinforces my point. She may be a sweetheart, and she be looking for a specific kind of guy that most of us are not, but that those few lines did more to alienate the majority guys rather than pique their interest. Even Ray's comments, though not non-negative, were more neutral than positive. I agree with Ray that something more eye catching than "simple, honest Filipina..." is a good idea, but if flipping the switch off to most male readers doesn't seem a wise way to advertise yourself.

- Jeff

... in response to See Carr...., posted by Jeff S on Apr 1, 2003

I guess it takes a special kind of man to get the kind of woman like Tricia.  I guess what I'm trying to point out is that its just a profile.  It is a miniscule part of what she is as a person.  That maybe her way to weed out the wackos who are looking for slaves.  Ooops! Did I say that?

As for the term 'simple' used by most Pinays in their profiles--I surely hope they'd stop using this word to describe themselves.  The dictionary itself have a negative description of that word.  It is an absolute insult to be called 'simple'.

Just my two cents.

... in response to I know..., posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

Hi C,

Yes, I agree that Tricia's profile is only a 'miniscule part of what she is as a person.' She could be better or worse. I think she posted it here to get a 'rise' out of us. It appears to me that she is the one looking for the slave! Maybe I should report her to Loren Legarda! :o)

'Simple' as defined first in Merriam-Webster's dictionary and used in the Philippines means: Modest - unpretentious, Innocent - free from guilt or sin, Decent - conforming to standards of propriety, good taste, or morality. That is the way Filipinas use and mean the word 'simple.' My wife is proud to call herself 'simple.' It applies very well, since she is unpretentious and moral! She is very intelligent, well educated, and not at all subservient!

Dave H.

... in response to My 10 cents..., posted by Dave H on Apr 1, 2003

Me thinks carr has done turned aw!

... in response to I know..., posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

Yeah, it may be seem insulting, but most American men, after dealing with the unfathomable complexities of many modern women are looking for just that - simple LOL!

- Jeff

... in response to Re: I know..., posted by Jeff S on Apr 1, 2003

You guys should collectively write a book and pass it on as sort of a Dr. Phil wake up call for these women.

... in response to American Men Angsts, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

Hi C,

The only thing that I feel 'angst' about is that my my balls might be hanging out of my purple G-string and getting sunburn! ;o)))

Dave H.

... in response to American Men Angsts, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

They have adapted all of man's bad characteristics and have past them on to the next generation of men bashers!

... in response to Re: its too late, posted by SteveB on Apr 1, 2003

Hi Steve,

You nailed that one right on the head! They have taken up the worst of male and female behavior and live it as gospel. Whatever happened to "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" Oh that's right, they they have their own 'Feminist Bible!'

Dave H.

... in response to Tricia...., posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

If I read Gabriella Network anywhere in the post, I'm going to go bezerk! =8oO

Dave H.

... in response to This Ought To Be Good!!! :o))) (n/t), posted by Dave H on Apr 1, 2003

N/T

... in response to Calling all cuties from all across the w..., posted by Tricia on Apr 1, 2003

... but all the single guys I know are sure looking for someone who describes themselves as "broodingly pensive" and "grumpier than Mr. Grinch" and who advises potential suitors to "proceed with caution."

I'll bet they're knocking down your door with offers.

- Jeff S.

... in response to I dunno about anyone else, , posted by Jeff S on Apr 1, 2003

She sounds like someone, I wish I would never have met!!!!

... in response to I dunno about anyone else, , posted by Jeff S on Apr 1, 2003

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I wouldn't waste even a single breath trying to contact her with the rotten attitude she shows.  First just the name of the website gives off a conceited attitude.   "HotorNot", my butt!   LOL   You know, one thing that always amazes me is how ugly a beautiful woman can become the very instant you realize she likes using her good looks to manipulate men.   This woman shows all the signs of that type to me.  

 I just remembered a quite good looking female friend I have here at work.  One day we were talking and I was helping her carry something - she bragged about how she could always "get a man", implying 'get a man to do my dirtywork'.  I never had as much respect for her after that because the more I got to know her, the more i saw she was dead serious about manipulating men.   I can't imagine being married to somebody like that.  One thing about it, I wouldn't be for long if somehow I was too stupid to see it coming before saying "I Do".

 Well, I just can't understand how or why a guy would go for this type in the Philippines of all places when the majority of the women there are total opposites.   Even the scamming gold diggers are usually friendly!  LOL   You can easily find a good looking spoiled brat in the US if that's all you want.   But I know Patrick is right and there are far more men on these sites than women, so I'm sure she'll get a lot of responses.  

                  SteveG

... in response to I dunno about anyone else, , posted by Jeff S on Apr 1, 2003

Don't kid yourself.  Women who place personals on the internet are inundated with responses unless they're totally unattractive.  I knew a woman about four years ago who was "voluptuous" (her discription, I'd call her a little overweight) who had over 600 responses to her ad.  She had men flying in from other states to meet her on a weekly basis.  I know she wasn't lying either, because she brought some of these men by work on her lunch hour to "show them off."  She also showed me her inbox stuffed with responses.

She wasn't even very attractive!

Most of the personals sites in the internet are having a lot of difficulty getting enough women to sign up.  Men make up by far the majority of applicants.

... in response to Re: I dunno about anyone else, , posted by Patrick on Apr 1, 2003

I wonder why that is. There ought to be just as many single and divorced women out there as men, and from what I've seen, most are at least as eager to get married as men.

What I really didn't get was bringing out the negatives in an ad. It's not much of a sales tool. I'd think plenty of guys would just say, "Hey, what do I need a grumpy wife for," and just pass her by, guys who might be OK with it after they'd gotten to know the good side. I know if I were in the market, I hit the "NEXT" button as fast as I could after coming across that ad.

- Jeff

... in response to Really? , posted by Jeff S on Apr 1, 2003

I guess I see her profile as really honest.  I think she is telling the guys 'This is me.  Please get to know the real person behind the profile.'

And she's actually cute and gauging from what she wrote--really intelligent.  I wouldn't pass the chance to get to know her if I'm the guy.

... in response to Don't you guys like honesty?, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

Yes, we like honesty and we intend to use it to our advantage by hitting the delete button. It's part of the dating process to weed out the undesirables. Normal people do not boast about their flaws. This is along the lines of "I'm a b*tch, but I'm worth it."

A wise man who reads the description, "broodingly pensive" and "grumpier than Mr. Grinch" will know that he has been warned (a red flag). Only a child demands love unconditionally and expects it regardless how they treat or interact with other people.

If they admit to it early in dating, you know it won't get better over time; if you tolerate less than positive behavior and attitudes during dating when everybody is supposed to be on their best behaivor you will have given her license to behave worse after the honeymoon is over. Result:marriage in h*ll.

Most Filipina's are very sweet and humble about wanting a man to accept them as they are, which includes their faults, which they leave unenumerated. Hopefully that works both ways.

... in response to Don't you guys like honesty?, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

Carr,
I'm sure honesty is fine for everyone.  I'd have to disagree with you on the intelligence aspect of the profile, it reeks more of pretentiousness than intelligence.

... in response to Don't you guys like honesty?, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

Yes, I do value honesty and intelligence. I also appreciate people who recognize that wild mood swings and inappropriate moody reactions are character flaws (or organically created chemical inbalances in need of treatment,) not traits to be bragged about. It's not like we're talking about Turet's syndrome here, these are behaviours. Whether she's cute or intelligent is irrelavent, if she has bouts of bad behaviour and insists that others take it or leave it, I'd chose to leave it.

Yes, my wife has her grumpy moments on occasion - not too many women get through life with perfectly balanced hormones all the time, but she's usually apologetic afterward, and recognizes it as bad behaviour. Likewise, if I'm short with her for some reason, I later feel remorse and apologize

Just my 2 cents.

- Jeff

... in response to Re: Don't you guys like honesty?, posted by Jeff S on Apr 1, 2003

Hi Jeff,

I have been through that BS before! It only gets worse with without diagnosis and treatment. Most of these people don't realize they even have a problem, the rest of the world is screwed up. I can only hope that this lady is trying to be funny and show off her intelligence. In my opinion, if she is serious, grave (as in noun and also adjective) problems exist!

Dave H.

... in response to Don't you guys like honesty?, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

She shouldn't be in that site......

... in response to Don't you guys like honesty?, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

Carr,
 It's Honesty when you say something like, "I'm not perfect, I have faults, etc"   BUT when you change it slightly and say "I'm going to be very hard to get along with" that's something entirely different.  It sounds like she is wanting to somehow excuse bad behaviour from the outset by owning up to being a b!tch.  In my experience, the word "Intelligent" when used by women describing themselves = "B!tch".   Still say, I can't see why a man would go so far to get that.  :)

                               SteveG

... in response to Re: Don't you guys like honesty?, posted by SteveG on Apr 1, 2003

ROFL!  Man, that is really taking it to the extremes.

... in response to Intelligent women are b*tch?!, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

Carr,
  I didn't say Intelligent women are b!thches, I said      B!tches typically describe themselves as 'Intelligent'.  They also like 'Opinionated', 'Speak my own mind', 'not afraid to say what I think', blah blah blah.   I have no time for somebody, male or female with such a chip on their shoulder.   And I darned sure wouldn't go half way around the world, spend many thousands of $$'s and wait for a couple of years to be shackled to such a person for life.  UGGHH!!!  :)  

 As far as true intelligence goes, Melly is very intelligent and I am VERY happy with her.  She is a far better student than myself and very quick to learn.

 One other teeny detail concerning the post here that started this discussion.  I have my doubts now that it is even real.  I've seen a lot of fake posts of this type on bulletin boards like Planet Love just to draw men to the various 'dating' sites'.  
              SteveG

... in response to Intelligent women are b*tch?!, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

N/T

... in response to More Like Manic-Depressive!  :o))) (n/t), posted by Dave H on Apr 1, 2003

You are going to burn in hell! ;-)

... in response to You are absolutely appaling, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

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That's why were in FL...practice!

Jon

... in response to You are absolutely appaling, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

Hi C,

Do you want me to save you a seat? :o)))

Dabe H.

... in response to Don't you guys like honesty?, posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

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...Be-itches No!

Hi C,

Maybe you're right and some guys find her 'honesty' attractive. Or maybe they have never lived with a be-itch like that. ROFLMAO! They can't say they didn't know what they were getting into! I hope that was only a joke. She sounded like just another be-itchy woman to me. Anyone else notice that many AzN/AmErIcAn women who are born or raised in the US are often major arrogant be-itches? This woman hasn't even gotten here yet. I find AW's and Latinas very sweet compared to them. LOL

Dave H.

... in response to Honesty Yes..., posted by Dave H on Apr 1, 2003

It seems like a fairly high percentage of Asians raised in America sense that they are very appealing to men and become extremely arrogant.   As I have said before, the sexiest woman alive becomes ugly the moment she starts to use her looks to manipulate men.   It might be fun to be with her for a while but in the long run, a dog would be a MUCH better companion...........heck, even a cat would beat a woman like that!  LOL
                            SteveG

... in response to Yes I have, Dave, posted by SteveG on Apr 2, 2003

Hi Steve,

Thanks! I was begining to think it was just me. ;o))) I guess it is the whole "I'm exotic" thing. One Korean/American lady who I don't even find attractive, is one of the biggest be-itches I have ever met.

I have to agree with you about some sexy women becoming ugly very quickly (I'm sure the ladies will say it also applies to men). A friend of mine used to play a game with them. He would walk up to a sexy woman and begin talking. If she acted arrogant or be-itchy, he would make a derogatory comment, usually about her looks. He may say that her nose was crooked or too big or her eyes were too far apart. Most of the women would become angry at first, then very insecure. In the end he would often end up going on a couple of dates and having a little fun before he couldn't take their attitudes any longer. It worked best with Latinas. Of course his technique probably was enhanced by the fact that he was handsome, with blonde hair, blue eyes, and the grandson of a former Cuban President.

Dave H.

... in response to Honesty Yes..., posted by Dave H on Apr 1, 2003

Rotten attitude? Be-itch? Really? Maybe it was something in her eyes? ROFL!

I don’t know, I didn’t really see anything wrong with her profile, except for the fact that she looks a little older than 22 maybe :-). At least it was more creative than the typical stuff like: “simple”, “God-fearing”, “volleyball”, “pocketbooks”, etc. Actually, I think her profile probably describes the average Filipina, just that she accentuated the negatives a little more than you usually see, like Jeff said.

I think you guys are just used to seeing something more “traditional” in those profiles of Filipinas, like this one maybe? (I think Steve G would like this..LOL)

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?emid=KYKZHEK

Ray

... in response to You guys crack me up!, posted by Ray on Apr 1, 2003

Hi Ray,

You suck up! ROFLMACUMLPIMMFP! It sounded too much like my ex! Call me a traditionalist, but I like the "kind, "simple," "pocket book" and "God-fearing" adds! ;o)))

Dave H.

... in response to April Fools! ;o))), posted by Dave H on Apr 1, 2003

:-)

... in response to You guys crack me up!, posted by Ray on Apr 1, 2003

That's what I thought so....
I don't believe she's only 22.......

... in response to Honesty Yes..., posted by Dave H on Apr 1, 2003

Don't read into her profile too much.  You've taken her to hell and burned her without even giving her a chance to explain herself.

... in response to Oh man, here we go...., posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

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Hi C,

What are we supposed to do read her friggin' mind? ROFLMAOPIMP! If I want a be-itch, I'll buy a female dog. I think most guys feel the same! ;o))) It's all about presentation and advertising...I wouldn't buy a car named a 'Lemon' or 'Clunker.' Jaguar or Cobra...now your talking!

Dabe H.

... in response to She Did It To Herself!, posted by Dave H on Apr 1, 2003

Is that b*tt itch?

... in response to Get your spelling right, Kuya Dabe..., posted by Carr on Apr 1, 2003

Hi C,

More like a hemorrhoid! =8oO

Dabe H.

... in response to Close..., posted by Dave H on Apr 1, 2003

song about this,,,or part of a song waiting for Dave Clark H too finish it?????

Hemorrhoids always itch and always burn
hemorrhoids....

take it away dave

PS,,,Is carr surprised by the response of everyone?  How many times do we poor old AM's have to say,,,we don't like or respect any women that act like bitty's

... in response to I know a....., posted by SteveB on Apr 1, 2003

HI Steve,

I like it! ROFLMAO!

Hemorrhoids always itch and always burn
Hemorrhoids are how the gay guys learn
It's not an entrance but an exit
Go to the doctor so he can fix it... ;o)))

If any woman is looking for Alan Alda or Ed Asner type wimps...better to look elsewhere than this board. We pulled our balls out of the vise!

Dave H.

... in response to Calling all cuties from all across the w..., posted by Tricia on Apr 1, 2003

Hi Trish, welcome aboard!

Don't worry, you aren't treading on male territory here (unless you step on our penis of course).

Do you already have pubik hairs and a cell phone? If so, then maybe we can fix you up. How much money do you have? Do you have a U.S. visa yet? What kind of car do you drive?

But if you are 22 and looking for someone your own age, you better come back in about 30 years or so... :-)

Ray