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Title: Vicky on her way to Philippines Post by: The Walker on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM Hiya! This is Don's younger daughter. I am sorry to report that Vicky had to go back to the Philippines on like no notice as one of her aunts and other relatives were injured in the bombing at the airport there. The aunt was an aunt by marriage and she was visiting her family. From what I got from Vicky (she was crying and talking alternately in English and Filipino on the phone) the bulk of the family met her at the airport and they were a little ways from the explosion. Do Filipinos bring half the family to the airport to meet people? Anyhow the aunt got unlucky and got a piece of flying something, glass or plexiglass in the torso through the back. Several others got splinters and other flying junk but nothing major. Thank the Great Spirit that none of the children were hurt. The aunt is very greviously injured and was the only one seriously injured in her group, although I have heard many other people were killed and maimed. This is terrible. Vicky was hysterical of course. She was very fearful when Dad first left, then she calmed down a little, now this. She told me before she left to post to you all and let you know that you probably won't hear from either of them for some time. Sorry it took so long but she forgot in her haste to tell me (in a really long note she left) whom I was supposed to tell. So I had to go through her and dad's computer bookmarks and sort of do the Sherlock thing. Jose is going to winterize the house and take the dog to live with them until one or the other gets home. Maria is going to clean the place really good and then put sheets over everything just like in the movies. She is also going to roll up and store the buffalo rug. I told them to leave the heat on at about 60 degrees but other wise to shut it down. I also told them to eat or give away everything in the fridge but leave it plugged in and for them to eat all they liked from the freezer. The only room that will be active will be dad's office for Jose.
Dad is okay. He knows, Vicky emailed him. I have to go through the addy book and email him Vicky's family phone and correct address as she forgot to do that. Don't worry about dad. I am afriad for him on general grounds but I know my dad. I know am his daughter but I can truthfully say he is a man's man. Give dad his rifle, plenty of bullets and a clear field of fire and you had better bring a tank and a sack lunch to mess with him, because you're going to need the protection and you'll be there all day. Did he ever tell any of you the REAL story of his barfight with the German guy when he took me to the Philippines to meet Vicky? It was my fault. I wanted to see the underbelly of the place for my report for college and because I thought it would be a blast and something I could tell tales about back at school. We were about to leave when this big German guy got into a fight with some guys at another table. The first thing dad did was to pick me up and set me down behind the big wooden bar and told me to keep my head down. But I peeked anyhow. The German was raising all sorts of cain but losing the fight. He got pushed back into dad and dad just pushed him off him and away from where I was supposed to be hiding. The German guy like turned around and took a swing at dad and dad chopped him down like a tree with about two moves. I don't know for sure what dad did but the German just laid there cussing I assume, and the cops got there pretty soon after that and when they picked him up he looked like Freddy Krueger has slapped him silly. His face was all bloody and it was swollen and his nose was in a funny position, and you could tell his eyes were going to swell shut and be all sorts of colors the next day. I don't know how much of that was dad's work and how much he got before he ran into my dad but he was a mess afterwards. You don't mess with my daddy. The guy couldn't stand without help he just laid there and groaned and cussed. But then he tried to fight the police too but they wouldn't take any of that, and one of them hit him like really hard across the back of his neck with his stick and that was that. The cops there are tough little guys and they don't take any nonsense. We had to go answer some questions but that was all. I will be here another day or so but then I have to go back home and back to work. Good luck to you all. You'll hear from dad or Vicky when one of them gets back I am sure. TTFN Title: I don't buy any of this Post by: lswote on March 08, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Vicky on her way to Philippines, posted by The Walker on Mar 5, 2003
This younger daughter sure has a broad world view for someone so young. And the wife sounds way too American. I think it is all the same person. I saw something similar several years ago on another message board. One of the board's most respected posters had finally agreed to meet one of the other posters in person after years of never having done that. Suddenly he ups and has a fatal accident and one of his daughters "kindly" posts about the accident, the funeral and aftermath of his death. The thing was no one could never find any mention of the accident or the funeral even though we supposedly knew his name and where he lived. Many posters were unwilling to believe they were being deceived and it split the board in half. They even refused to hear others' skepticism. All because someone, for reasons only known to themself, had something to hide and didn't want to be exposed in real-life and invented his own death. People have lots of reasons for pretending to be someone else and I believe that is what is happening here. These characters are NOT real. Title: Re: I don't buy any of this Post by: Patrick on March 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I don't buy any of this, posted by lswote on Mar 8, 2003
What would be the goal of creating fake personas and writing so many posts? It would have to be an awfully bored person to do all this. Title: Re: Re: I don't buy any of this. Remember... Post by: NW Jim on March 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I don't buy any of this, posted by Patrick on Mar 9, 2003
Remember over on the Latin forum the stories of Mck and his Mexicana?, the stories of Hilton and his piano playing? These posters along with The Walkers share the trait of writing VERY detailed stories. They have to tell you the details of their personal lives. The motivation is primarily to impress the reader and give the writer status. As with all things in life believe only 1/4 of what you hear and 1/2 of what you see! Title: I don't say they aren't real people.... Post by: SteveG on March 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I don't buy any of this, posted by Patrick on Mar 9, 2003
Maybe they are, maybe not. I DO say they are full of it when it comes down to representing the truth. Heck, I know quite a few people in the 'real world' who tell stories like these. My first cousin's husband has a cousin who PERSONALLY strategized, directed and won the Gulf War back in 1991. All by his little self. He sat on a battle ship in the Gulf and directed the forces like puppets. Yep, those General were just his pawns and mostly made copies and got his coffee. The guy really believes this. LOL I also work with a guy who is always in the middle of a huge crisis or conspiracy. James Bond doesn't get into such stuff as he does. Both of these cases are people I really know and both cases are heavily burdened with fertilizer. ;) So I don't necessarily believe it is all fiction based on imaginary characters like some here do. I think it's more than likely real people who love to exaggerate to get attention. In our daily lives, we would all likely be too polite to point this out but here on a bulletin board we can be more honest about what we think. PS - I am personally offended that the long Range rifle Title: Al Gore comes to mind! N/T Post by: Dave H on March 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM Title: But on the other hand???????? Post by: SteveG on March 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I don't say they aren't real people...., posted by SteveG on Mar 10, 2003
When I think of my original comment about "Vicky's" writing style being so much like her Husband's when she grew up not speaking English as a native language then married in her late 30's/early 40's, I have to wonder if it is one person writing it all. Hmmmmmmmm???? SteveG Title: faking and posing Post by: Nathan on March 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I don't buy any of this, posted by Patrick on Mar 9, 2003
Patrick, It might seem pointless, but do people put quite a bit of effort into seemingly pointless faking and posing? Yes they do. Just ask war vetrans couseling folks, especially those dealing with supposed trauma- quite a few of the Title: Hey Patrick Post by: Stephen on March 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I don't buy any of this, posted by Patrick on Mar 9, 2003
That's a valid question. You know, we're family on this board. You don't want to call one of the members of the family a fraud unless you've really got the good on them. Here's how I feel. Maybe I'm wrong. But I have not responded to much to Don/Vicky for a long time because I felt it was a hoax. Why would someone do this? I felt it was probably a frustrated writer who wanted to see if he could string us along with a story he creates. Notice....no animosity toward us....just want to see if he can write good enough to make us believe him. It's a challenge. Why don't I believe the story? Because Don/Vicky have no "warts". By that I mean that everything is perfect in their life. They never have any doubts and wonder what to do....no, just like superman they always act and win. It's just like reading a book. The hero always does exactly right and wins in the end. The hero never has any doubts or needs any help in life. The hero always kicks butt. All of us here are just regular people who have lots of "warts". There's a lot of answers we don't have. (For example....many of us here on the board tonight don't even know if it's safe to visit Palawan. They would never ask a question like that because they would already know the answer.) In sum: No one I've ever met is as perfect and successful and confident as Don/Vicky. Also....the writing style is so similar. Tess never believed the story. Just my thoughts. I could be wrong. BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN WRONG BEFORE. Stephen Title: Re: Hey Patrick Post by: SteveB on March 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hey Patrick, posted by Stephen on Mar 10, 2003
I agree stephen,,no warts no farts,,,,lol Title: and... Post by: Dave H on March 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Hey Patrick, posted by SteveB on Mar 10, 2003
[This message has been edited by Dave H] ...no butt pimples, jungle rot, or ball rash! ;o))) They ain't human! Dave H. Title: Or... Post by: Dave H on March 10, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I don't buy any of this, posted by Patrick on Mar 9, 2003
...maybe that is how they get their rocks off! Different strokes, for different folks! ;o))) I would sure like to read the ending. It was building to a BIG climax! Dave H. Title: Re: Re: I don't buy any of this Post by: Ray on March 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I don't buy any of this, posted by Patrick on Mar 9, 2003
Gee, I always kind of suspected YOU Patrick. ROFLMAO! Title: This is the first i have heard Post by: outwest77 on March 09, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I don't buy any of this, posted by lswote on Mar 8, 2003
This is the first i have heard Of the doubt for his posts, but it is definitely interesting to speculate, I have not read the board much since around xmas, since i left for my recent trip dec 26 and just got back, but its definitely interesting to read the board now, not boring, lol Title: Please pass on my best regards... Post by: Tim on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Vicky on her way to Philippines, posted by The Walker on Mar 5, 2003
[This message has been edited by Tim] I know you are real people, and I think a few other guys here do too. Don't let some of these posters get to you. Keep the faith, as Howard says.... Regards, Tim Title: Be Careful! Post by: Dave H on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Please pass on my best regards..., posted by Tim on Mar 6, 2003
[This message has been edited by Dave H] Tim, You're the only one here that has seen his photo and can blow his cover. There's no telling who might want to "talk" to you... Dave H. Title: Question for Tim Post by: Ray on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Please pass on my best regards..., posted by Tim on Mar 6, 2003
Tim, have you met the Walkers in person? My feeling has always been that "they" are probably real people, but tend to stretch the facts just a tad (ROFLMAO) to embellish themselves. I find their posts well written and very entertaining and they have always been polite and respectful, so I don't have any big complaints. At least they are certainly not your typical trolls. However, some of the stuff in their recent posts is ridiculous and just downright laughable. If you have ever served in the military, you would probably understand what I am talking about. Tim, do you believe all the stuff they have posted? Anxiously awaiting the next episode of "Don The Walker, All American Hero" :-) Ray Title: Yeah, for instance... Post by: SteveG on March 07, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Question for Tim, posted by Ray on Mar 6, 2003
Ray, How is it that a guy who talks to Generals on a daily basis is going back to the military to do nothing more important than sit on roof tops and shoot a 50cal sniper rifle? I mean, for crying out loud, he is being pulled out of retirement just to pull a trigger?? There are LOTS of guys who can shoot well and they aren't top dog officers either.....at least once they get that high, the combat is over. Also all the drama a year or so ago about having to leave the board because of risk of being detected by the bad guys he had vanquished over the years was obviously a bunch of crap. If you are this super bad-guy assasin and you don't want your cover to be blown, why would you even mention it in the first place??? Why blow about it over and over and then talk out the other side of your mouth about how it all has to be such a secret?? Sort of make your think, doesn't it?? LOL The farming stories have always given me the impression that whomever is writing this stuff is a guy who grew up in town and knew nothing whatsoever about farming until he retires and decides to buy a farm and "live the good life" that city dwellers always think farm life is. I have been around farming all my life and I never heard of all the drama of staying up 24/7 during calving season. It just ain't that much of a critical thing. Besides, if you are losing that many calves, you are doing something wrong such as breeding the heifers too young or breeding them to a bull of another larger breed to get bigger calves which can cause problems. Also after the 1st calf whatever problems you may have drastically drop. SteveG Title: Re: Yeah, for instance... Post by: Nathan on March 08, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Yeah, for instance..., posted by SteveG on Mar 7, 2003
You have listed many of the things I observed as well, that were pretty obviously BS, especially to those who have really lived it. Title: Re: Yeah, for instance... Post by: Ray on March 08, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Yeah, for instance..., posted by SteveG on Mar 7, 2003
Hi Steve, You really thought that you were the only one until now? ROFL! No, I assure you that you are not the only one! But just maybe Tim is the only one who believes all those stories? He must know something about the military that we don't :-) But, like Dave H, I want to hear the end of this story. I want to know if Don is going to capture Osama alive, or if "Calamity Jane" is going to blow his brains out. Ray Title: Well... Post by: Dave H on March 08, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Yeah, for instance..., posted by SteveG on Mar 7, 2003
Hi Steve, Probably only about 2-3 people "believe" all of this...and one of them may actually be the writer. I would really like to see how this story ends! Ray and I have our own ideas in case we don't get an official ending. :o))) Dave H. Title: Re: Question for Tim Post by: SteveB on March 07, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Question for Tim, posted by Ray on Mar 6, 2003
"As the BS goes rolling along"....LOL...Unbelievable...lol Title: Yes....nt Post by: Tim on March 07, 2003, 05:00:00 AM Title: On the way to Disneyland.... Post by: Nathan on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Vicky on her way to Philippines, posted by The Walker on Mar 5, 2003
Your posts, while amusing, would be more credible Title: Do you think Post by: Humabdos on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to On the way to Disneyland...., posted by Nathan on Mar 6, 2003
The Walker and Vicky are fictional characters? Sounds like everyone is beginning to feel they are fakes. Hum Title: Re: Do you think Post by: Nathan on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Do you think, posted by Humabdos on Mar 6, 2003
My opinion? I think they are fakes...all or in part. That is my OPINION. Quite a few stories just did not seem to add up, and I think you will see that a lot of folks have the same opinion. The most obvious was the near identical writing syle of all three names posting under the name. Of course that is an opinion. Many supposed facts supplied over many months did not seem to jive with what I know to be facts for myself. I have traveled in over 60 countries and lived in several and I suspect that several other posters have at least as much international and life experience or more. Quite a few posters have traveled and posted their experience in detail, even when like I have sometimes done, they royally screwed up. In other words, the truth has a GOOD, BAD, and the UGLY ring to it that at least some of us value. Opinions may vary widely, it's a free country. Title: Know what I think, Hum..... Post by: Stephen on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Do you think, posted by Humabdos on Mar 6, 2003
I think that Don and Vicky are both fictional characters made up by JEAN. The book will probably be sold on her web site. And if Vicky becomes a "catfighter" then we know that it's Jean. S'pose so? Stephen Title: Re: Know what I think, Stephen..... Post by: Humabdos on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Know what I think, Hum....., posted by Stephen on Mar 6, 2003
Are you And Jean responsible for the LA Law Catfighter DVD? How much is your take on the book deal? LMAO! :-)) I sure hope they are real. The ranch almost sounded like the Ponderosa! Title: Patrick, I think some help is needed here! Post by: Bubba on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to On the way to Disneyland...., posted by Nathan on Mar 6, 2003
see the message I responded to. Title: Re: Patrick, I think some help is needed here! Post by: Nathan on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Patrick, I think some help is needed her..., posted by Bubba on Mar 6, 2003
I am not sure what opinion you are trying to express, but the opinion I expressed in my post is pretty widely held by LONGTIME posters on this board. It is not that they are lacking sensitivity, they may simply feel as I do that they have been fed a line of BS, but then again, I am sure they will speak for themselves. Why the call for help? Title: What sort of help? n/t Post by: Ray on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM Title: NO!!! STOP!!! Post by: Ray on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Vicky on her way to Philippines, posted by The Walker on Mar 5, 2003
"I also told them to eat or give away everything in the fridge but leave it plugged in and for them to eat all they liked from the freezer" You have to stop them Don's Younger Daughter! DONT LET JOSE & MARIA EAT EVERYTHING IN THE FREEZER! Not only did Don keep the bull sperm in the freezer, but he also had some of his own sperm stashed in there just in case he got knocked off in Iraq. Oh well, it's probably too late by now anyway. I hope Jose & Maria enjoyed the sperm-probably put in on the ice cream. Maybe they can still get a viable sample off of the buffalo rug? Oh, what the hell... Yeah, that bar-room-brawl story we've already heard a dozen times from Don. But in his version the German bit off a piece of his ear and then Don realized that it was his long-lost Pa from Germany. My sympathies to Vicky and her poor auntie, the one who got hit by a piece of flying something (probably a piece of flying BS). She's damn lucky she's still alive! Oh, when they talk alternately in English and Filipino, they call it "Taglish". OBTW, who's milking the bulls while everyone is out of town? Please keep us posted. The suspense is killing us! Thanks for the update, ROTFLMAOCUMFLTNTPIMMFP! Ray Title: Wow! Post by: Nathan on March 06, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to NO!!! STOP!!!, posted by Ray on Mar 5, 2003
You know, it sounds like Don and Vicky live such unusual lives! I am amazed at how this always happens! Title: Too Late!!! Post by: Dave H on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to NO!!! STOP!!!, posted by Ray on Mar 5, 2003
Hi Ray, I echo your concerns! I sure wish Vicky had made her intentions known to us before she took off in such a hurry! We could have advised her against it! It seems that she is running right into harms way. Now both her and Don have placed themselves in perilous positions. I'm dying to hear how this all turns out! PIMMFP Dave H. Title: Re: NO!!! STOP!!! Post by: SteveB on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to NO!!! STOP!!!, posted by Ray on Mar 5, 2003
RayHow long are we going to dance with all this BS?????I'm afraid I might step in "it",,Oh well,,I guess I'll go buy some boots..lol...lol Steve-slip-sliding-awayB Title: slip-sliding-away... Post by: Dave H on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: NO!!! STOP!!!, posted by SteveB on Mar 5, 2003
Hey Steve, Just go get your chest waders on and put Juliet on your shoulders. On second thought, you might better go buy a jonboat before the dam breaks. ;o))) Dave H. Title: Re: Re: NO!!! STOP!!! Post by: Ray on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: NO!!! STOP!!!, posted by SteveB on Mar 5, 2003
Not much longer, I think... See Dave H's post above ;-) Ray Title: Apocalypse Soon! Post by: Dave H on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: NO!!! STOP!!!, posted by Ray on Mar 5, 2003
Hey Ray, This all has that "Apocalypse Now" feel to it! I have my Doors CD on blasting "The End" to get just the right "feel." :o))) Funny, the movie made more sense the first time I saw it sh-it-faced (Damn Cuss-O-Meter!) on Bacardi 151. Maybe that is what is missing now. ROFLMAOCUMLTNTPIMMFP!!! Dave Title: Who's going to watch the bull? Post by: Jimbo on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Vicky on her way to Philippines, posted by The Walker on Mar 5, 2003
Hiya younger daughter, ..and the cows? If Jose isn't there at night, what if the wacko PETA folks come by to break the fence and let them all out? TTFN, Title: Re: Who's going to watch the bull? Post by: stefang on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Who's going to watch the bull?, posted by Jimbo on Mar 5, 2003
I think the Bull should get some M.O.C.(mail order cows) for himself it would only make sense. Title: Re: Who's going to watch the bull? Post by: Jay on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Who's going to watch the bull?, posted by Jimbo on Mar 5, 2003
Hi Jim, Hey, what's TTFN? Is it "ta ta for now"? :-) Jay Title: I think so Post by: Jimbo on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Who's going to watch the bull?, posted by Jay on Mar 5, 2003
Why Jay? Do you have another interpretation? Knowing you my friend... :-) Jim --don't say the lewd and crude one, if you do! Title: Re: I think so Post by: Jay on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I think so, posted by Jimbo on Mar 5, 2003
LMAO! I had a couple. LOL! I'll keep 'em to myself. :-) Jay Title: You had a couple? Post by: Jimbo on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I think so, posted by Jay on Mar 5, 2003
Wow, I almost took that the wrong way. That's what I used to tell the cops -LOL! Jim Title: Re: You had a couple? Post by: Jay on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to You had a couple?, posted by Jimbo on Mar 5, 2003
LMAO!! Like a band of Velocoraptors!! Got me there. I didn't even think of that double meaning. LOL! Jay- So dry, I'm a fire hazard. :-) Title: It Got My Attention! ROFLMAO! Post by: Dave H on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to You had a couple?, posted by Jimbo on Mar 5, 2003
[This message has been edited by Dave H] Hi Jim and Jay, If we're going to be good...let's at least get down and dirty! :o)))In honor of the two James...some James Douglas Morrison, "The End" "Ride the snake, ride the snake "C'mon baby, take a chance with us Dave H. Title: Re: It Got My Attention! ROFLMAO! Post by: Jay on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to It Got My Attention! ROFLMAO!, posted by Dave H on Mar 5, 2003
[This message has been edited by Jay] Hey Dave, The mullah's in Iraq ought to be playing that over their loudspeakers. A bit of mood music. :-> Jay Title: Re: Who's going to watch the bull? Post by: The Walker on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Who's going to watch the bull?, posted by Jimbo on Mar 5, 2003
Oh, sorry, I didn't know how much dad had told you all about the place. Jose and Maria live on the ranch in a smaller house within shouting distance of the main house. The main house and the barns are in plain view from Jose's. There's an alarm on the house and on the barn, too, and both ring at Jose's house as well but the cattle are out in pasture. Poor Jose has his work cut out for him as it is almost calving season. Only the bulls and the horses are in the barnlot right now. Jose will probably move the pregnant cows up in about a week, and then there will be crew there 24/7 until the calving is all over. Then comes spring planting for corn and such. Gotta go. Big day tomorrow and then back home for me. The heck with PETA, I like steaks. My last post here, thanks in advance for all good wishes. TTFN Title: I like steaks too Post by: Jimbo on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Who's going to watch the bull?, posted by The Walker on Mar 5, 2003
Ok YD, Thanks and good luck to you and your family. Just one more thing - please be sure to marry someone who your Dad really likes, Ok? Otherwise, that poor guy is going to have a tough life :-) Jim Title: Re: Vicky on her way to Philippines Post by: Jeff S on March 05, 2003, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Vicky on her way to Philippines, posted by The Walker on Mar 5, 2003
Please send our very best wishes to Vicky, her family, and of course, your dad - with the Great spirit and Calamity Jane on their sides. Jeff & Mariko |