Title: Blonde preference Post by: Tjien on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM Hi, I'm new here :)
Before I'll post, I'm not writing/posting this message with racial prejudice. I believe everyone is equal, regardless of their skincolor. These are just my observations. (Just to make sure we won't end up in a flame war about racism, because I don't intend/it's the last thing I want to happen.) So far, (almost!) every single guy I know has prefered blonde (or Western for that matter) over Asian. However, they do tell me (I'm Asian, living in a Western country) that Asians are "very attractive, but just not my type". How come so very few (Caucasian) men fall for Asian women? Is it because they are afraid of the culture? Because it's different and perhaps new to them? And also: how come there are so many Asian men who fall for Western women? Is it because of the media? Are there too little Asian models/movie stars compared to Western models/movie stars? Why? Tjien :( Title: Living in Europe Post by: kevin on September 19, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Blonde preference, posted by Tjien on Sep 17, 2002
At first I was surprised when you said that not too many white men were attracted to Asians. Then I learned that you are living in the Netherlands. That might explain it. It is my impression that it's pretty much in America, and probably the rest of the New World (especially Latin America) where mixing is generally acceptable by society. I may be mistaken, but it's my impression that in Europe that the sentiment in each nation is to preserve the original identity of its stock. Asians in the Netherlands or other European countries are probably regarded as outsiders, compared to the United States or Canada. Such men, perhaps through social conditioning, are probably aprehensive about courtship with somebody outside their race, but perhaps true desires are repressed. - Kevin Title: Re: Blonde preference Post by: Mita on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Blonde preference, posted by Tjien on Sep 17, 2002
Tjien, Here are my theories/observations from being married to a Caucasian man: The attraction to Asian women is probably more on the personality rather than the physical. Asian women are more used to taking the role of supporter, being "behind" the husband. No matter how sophistticated an Asian woman is, that is deeply ingrained in her. She may fight this tendency, but the instincts to care for her man will always surface. If I were a Caucasian male, I would find this very attractive. On the physical aspect, Asian women might seem daintier (thus more attractive) to the Caucasian male. Whatever nationality, there will be a majority of us who will choose to marry someone of our own kind. This is the more traditional and socially acceptble thing to do. Maybe they don't want to bother with the cultural differences as well as the male-female differences couples always encounter. Mita Title: Re: Blonde preference - Different Strokes for Different Folks (n/t) Post by: Missy on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM Title: Welcome To P-L! Post by: Dave H on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Blonde preference, posted by Tjien on Sep 17, 2002
Hi Tjien, There's not a lot of Asians in South Florida. The different nationalities maintain close knit social groups, making it difficult for outsiders to establish a relationship. It is not very common to see Asians involved with non-Asians. Even at the local high school, they tend to congregate together. To make matters more complicated, many Asians here are from the Caribbean and Latin America, adding another cultural twist. It's not unusual to hear Asians speaking Spanish. My brother loves big buxom blondes, but I have always preferred petite darker women...just a matter of taste. Dave H. Title: thanks! and true... Post by: Tjien on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Welcome To P-L!, posted by Dave H on Sep 17, 2002
"The different nationalities maintain close knit social groups, making it difficult for outsiders to establish a relationship." At my school, there are a lot of Asians (almost 30%) and I see very few of them in a relationship with someone non-Asian. We sort of stick together, in a way, and it's true that it would be hard for an outsider to meet someone. I guess that it scared off the rest of my school... "Oh! She's Asian! Maybe she belongs to that 30% that stick together, let's not approach her." :( Tjien Title: It's all in the scent Post by: Ray on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Blonde preference, posted by Tjien on Sep 17, 2002
Hi Tjien, welcome aboard! Speaking for myself, blondes may be nice to look at, but they don't smell nearly as good as Asian women do. Yes, even when they are eating dried squid, Asian women smell much better than those blondes :-) Where are you from? Ray Title: hahah Post by: Tjien on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to It's all in the scent, posted by Ray on Sep 17, 2002
Thanks! I'm from Holland :) Hahaha, I guess I'll have to take your word on that one! Tjien Title: From Holland? Post by: Ray on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to hahah, posted by Tjien on Sep 18, 2002
That's great Tjien. Maybe you should ask our resident Dutchman, Windmill Boy, why he prefers Asian ladies :-) Ray Title: Re: From Holland? Post by: Tjien on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM Title: For some reason . . . Post by: kevin on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to It's all in the scent, posted by Ray on Sep 17, 2002
I just can't imagine a blond farting. It's just not "ladylike". - Kevin Title: Well. . . Post by: Dave H on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to For some reason . . ., posted by kevin on Sep 17, 2002
Kevin, I can just imagine Anna Nicole Smith exploding! She looks like she has been holding it in for months. Poor Howard and purple-haired girl. ;o))) Dave H. Title: Actually.. Post by: Kreeger on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Blonde preference, posted by Tjien on Sep 17, 2002
...MOST blondes in America are fake blondes who color their hair in hopes of winning the "attention" of the men you speak of. Yes, ever since Marilyn Monroe set the standard for the "American Woman" back in the 50's, the media has used that image as what American men should be attracted to. If you show a picture of a blonde, fair-skinned caucasion woman (with at least decent looks) to most Filipinas, they will respond that she is "beautiful". I was shocked when my fiance thought that I would not love her as much as the "fair-skinned, blonde, beautiful American women". Actually, I loathe blondes... the only blondes I have ever known were the worst examples of suitable partners in the average man's eyes. I just don't like the fact that someone will try so hard to become something they are not, by changing their looks... just to attract a "suitable" (rich, perfect, etc.) mate. Title: Barbie doll fantasy Post by: Bob S on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Blonde preference, posted by Tjien on Sep 17, 2002
"However, they do tell me (I'm Asian, living in a Western country) that Asians are 'very attractive, but just not my type'. How come so very few (Caucasian) men fall for Asian women?" What?! What primitive sh!te-hole land are you living in where men would say such things? "how come there are so many Asian men who fall for Western women?" Hmm, for the most part, it's gotta be the boobs. Few Asian women have the cleavage to even closely compare to the manga porn fantasy women. (-; BTW, in the nearly 4 months I've been in Japan, the only Asian man - Western woman couple I've seen was at the Sumo tournament I went to yesterday. There was a well dressed Japanese businessman with his gorgeous blonde Russian hostess-club (prostitute?) date. How did I know she was Russian? When he went to the can, I chatted her up. Dobre dien! Kak dela! Oh Gawd, am I a glutton for punishment or what! 8-D Title: Re: Barbie doll fantasy Post by: Tjien on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Barbie doll fantasy, posted by Bob S on Sep 17, 2002
"What?! What primitive sh!te-hole land are you living in where men would say such things?" I'm from Holland. You'd think we'd be evolved along with the rest of the world, guess we got stuck in the ice-age or something :( Tjien Title: Re: Blonde preference Post by: Jeff S on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Blonde preference, posted by Tjien on Sep 17, 2002
While it may be true that lots of Asian men seem to have a thing for blondes, the reality is that there are far more Asian women/Western men couples than Asian men/Western women ones. I'm in an interracial marriage myself and notice these things. Whether this is because of blonde women, or Asian men, I don't know. My guess it's a bit of both. When men say, "I prefer blondes," or "she has to be really slender to turn me on," or any other purely physical aspect of women, they're probably pretty immature. It's my contention that most men who are attracted to Asian women are attracted to their attitudes and presence rather than on a purely physical level. Don't get me wrong, Asian women's tendency to be attractive, demure, and slender is certainly a factor, but should be considered as just part of the whole package. After all, women aren't attracted to men's biceps or butts only, no matter what they may scream at Chippendales. To most on this board, and many men I've talked to who prefer Asian women do so because of factors like being feminine, less confrontational, more loyal, and other non-physical characteristics. If a man tells you that you're not his type, it may be that he's speaking on an immature, purely physical level (in which case, why would you be interested in him in the fiirst place?) or he may be put off by somthing else, but it's certainly not because of a lack of Asian movie stars. I know few guys who don't drool all over Lucy Lieu, Tia Carrere, or Phoebe Cates. You sound a bit young, and perhaps a bit lonely. The right guy will come along and I'd advise you to stick to your standards. Don't succumb to the level of typical young American women, trying lto act like they're men with hookups, tatoos, foul language, and an attitude that men and women are interchangable in everything (modern feminism.) The truth is they're just not - they're opposite and equal like day and night, hot and cold, yin and yang. - Jeff S. Title: I agree Post by: Tjien on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Blonde preference, posted by Jeff S on Sep 17, 2002
"Don't get me wrong, Asian women's tendency to be attractive, demure, and slender is certainly a factor, but should be considered as just part of the whole package." I suppose it has to do with how "blondes" act and how "asians" act. I don't mean this the wrong way, but in general, Asians are more reserved when it comes to flirting. (Of course, this is another one of my observations :) There are MANY exceptions of course!) First impression is pretty much crucial, and I guess that men's expectations of a "fun girl" are easier met when they're more outgoing. It's not that Asians are not outgoing (I'm living proof!), but it's different, I guess... Still, I agree, it should be part of the whole package. I think guys my age are just impatient when it comes to getting to know a girl :( When their mind is set on something (and in my case, that would be a some "blonde gal" who happened to hop into the picture...), unfortunately they stick to it, regardless of anything really :( Tjien Title: Re: Blonde preference Post by: Tim on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Blonde preference, posted by Tjien on Sep 17, 2002
If you have the chance to look around some of the bigger cities in America, ones that have large Asian populations (San Francisco, LA, New York come to mind), you will see many Caucasian men with Asian ladies. I don't think we are necessarily scared of their culture, its just we don't have the oppportunity to meet them locally, and few guys will use resources like the internet to do it. (The men on this board are the exception, and in the vast minority in America.) When the opportunity arises, we can see that not only are they attractive but by and large they ARE our type (exception being those who have become too radically feminist). I see from your profile that you are relatively young. I think men your age are attracted to what is exotic (even older men are, but by and large our reasons for interest in women are different). Women of a different race are definitely exotic. There are as many Asian actors/actresses as western ones. However, few of them have the same promotional assets at their disposal as their western counterparts. There are some exceptions like Jackie Chan and Chow Yun Fat. As for Asian female actresses, I would pick Michelle Yeoh over Julia Roberts ANY day of the week. But that's just me, and everyone has their own personal preference. More importantly, western media tends to just ignore them, out of ignorance, and focus on the western superstars. Just my opinions, your mileage may vary. Regards, Tim Title: hmm... Post by: Tjien on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Blonde preference, posted by Tim on Sep 17, 2002
"I think men your age are attracted to what is exotic (even older men are, but by and large our reasons for interest in women are different). Women of a different race are definitely exotic." Maybe it's different for the men here, though I can't imagine. I mean, men will always be men! No matter where they're from :) Title: Re: Blonde preference Post by: jon on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Blonde preference, posted by Tjien on Sep 17, 2002
Actually, the blonde image has been so shoved down my throat by the media, that I could care less about blondes. Pushed me down the road of pinays. Jon Title: It's a myth . . . Post by: kevin on September 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Blonde preference, posted by Tjien on Sep 17, 2002
in my opinion that "blondes have more fun." I think "pinays have more fun". (When I was a teenager,older guys would typically favor blondes when talking about girls.) But everybody has different tastes. Some in my family have it ingrained in their subconcious that "I have a problem" because of my preferences to southeast Asians (specifically Filipinas). Some are convinced that if my preferences were for white westerners, then my love-life would be balanced. On the other hand, I can't comprehend what some guys find attractive in choosing partners. But I guess it's better that not everybody is attracted to all the same girls (or guys). If somebody is attractive, there's enough competition anyway, but it is not all 100%. What one guy may regard as very beautiful, I'd regard as a "plain Jane". - Kevin Title: Re: It's a myth . . . Post by: Tjien on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to It's a myth . . . , posted by kevin on Sep 17, 2002
"Some in my family have it ingrained in their subconcious that "I have a problem" because of my preferences to southeast Asians (specifically Filipinas). Some are convinced that if my preferences were for white westerners, then my love-life would be balanced." Could that be one of the (main) reasons why Caucasian men do not want/try to get involved with Asian (or any other race than Caucasian) women? Tjien Title: Asian woman- white man Post by: Nathan on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: It's a myth . . . , posted by Tjien on Sep 18, 2002
There are more Asians on the West coast than most areas of the USA. Perhaps that explains why in my experience Asian women are popular with white men it seems. My 2 cents worth.... Nathan Title: same here... Post by: Jimbo on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Asian woman- white man, posted by Nathan on Sep 18, 2002
..in the Boston area. Men are always asking my wife if she has a sister or a friend. They usually ask if she's from Thailand. Everytime Sally takes the car to my mechanic the guy says, "Sally will you find a wife for me?" :0) Jim Title: growing trend Post by: Nathan on September 18, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to same here..., posted by Jimbo on Sep 18, 2002
I was reading today that within less than 10 years, men in the 30s-40s group who often look to marry women younger than themselves will outnumber this younger group of women by a ratio of 2-1...that would lead one to believe that the interest in meeting women overseas will only increase a lot. Nathan |