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Title: What's been going on Frank ? Post by: wsbill on May 23, 2005, 04:00:00 AM What are you two doing on a day to day basis?
Is she smoking like a chimney? Cussin at you in Russian? Fill us in. Have you gotten one of the guys wives to talk to the girl ? I think we have few guys from Houston or DFW that are darn near local calls. Title: Well.. Post by: Frank O on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to What's been going on Frank ?, posted by wsbill on May 23, 2005
I post more in detal when this is over. She is smoking over a pack a day, & I just got $19K yesterday (invstment) & she thinks she entitled to $8K so she thinks next week she's going home with $8k. Yeah right!!! Basically at this point she is being a suka (Russian term for our bitsh). I think I just need to let her go because she is NOT the girl I married & sometimes I wonder if she ever was. I mean when I married she already smoked but lied to me. She said she didn't smoke for the whole period I was there. So I guess from the start there was deception. Oh well. Heck if I WAS getting sex I wouldn't complaining AS much! Title: Re: Well.. Post by: Robert D on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Well.., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005
not to cast stones, but the smoking in the start would have been a no no for me. Seems to often go with bad attitudes in women often. terry Title: Re: Re: Well.. Post by: Felinessa on June 10, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Robert D on May 24, 2005
I'm sorry, Robert, but you have absolutely no basis to link smoking and "bad attitudes." It's a ridiculous and patronizing assumption. It's your right to not want to date a smoker, but the fact that someone smokes means only that she smokes, not that she has character flaws. Title: Hmmm.... Post by: LP on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Robert D on May 24, 2005
[This message has been edited by LP] ...So smoking and bad attitudes go together? Thats quite a stretch. Some of the finest women I've ever known smoke. It's a habit, nothing more. A bad one yes, but nothing more. Rejecting a potential lifelong partner simply because she smokes at the time you meet her seems downright bizzare, almost as bizzare as accepting her based on looks, age, etc. That's like saying women should reject lawyers out of hand, except there may be a tad more validity to that line of reasoning ;). And not to beat on Frank but if he'd paid even the slightest attention to signs other than minor stuff like smoking he wouldn't be where he is now. MOB men....sheesh.
Title: Re: Hmmm.... Post by: Robert D on May 25, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm...., posted by LP on May 24, 2005
Knew that would get a rise. meant that the number of packs a day and strange initial attitude together. I have know a few smoking women that were ok, but addictive behavior is the issue for me. Title: It wasn't the smoking... Post by: Frank O on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm...., posted by LP on May 24, 2005
It was the LYING about smoking. I just don't or wouldn't prefer smokers. However SAYING you don't but you do...well you get the point. As for Jack "beating" on me Jack just told me months back she was not on the up & up & I chose to ignore some HUGE red flags. I'm paying for it now. I'm NOT blaming everything. Title: Re: Hmmm....Agree Post by: tim360z on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Hmmm...., posted by LP on May 24, 2005
The butts ain't the problem. The problem is how your sweet lovely bride of 2 years suddenly materializes on the K3 and has somehow turned into a money-grubbing-affectionless-back-to-Ukraine-viper. Coached to pillage and plunder. I dunno here? Something ain't quite right? I get a funny feeling about this. Frank, something just ain't on the level here? Whattcha' tink? Tim Title: There was NO smoking in the start... Post by: Frank O on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Robert D on May 24, 2005
That's part of the problem. When I was there she NEVER smoked never even HINTED at it. I remember I asked about a pic I saw once with her with a cig. She said it was a joke & I dismissed it. That's part of the problem. I didn't know till WAY after the fact. Had I known I would have NEVER pursued that. I DID meet several other girls that smoke but that "disqualified" them for me. Title: Re: Why don't you take a insurance policy out on her Post by: wsbill on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Well.., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005
You live down near old Mexico right. Hey, suppose you drove across the border without any paperwork on her... She can't come back into the USA. I'll bet she could find work in that border town real EASY. Title: Re: Well.. Post by: Cold Warrior on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM Title: Re: Re: Well.. Post by: Frank O on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Cold Warrior on May 24, 2005
You know THE determining factor in me choosing her out of the other girls WAS her belief in God!!! Strange. I'm NOT perfect but I am a FIRM believer in the Word of God. She was the ONLY girl of ALL of them who would talk about the bible & discuss religeon etc. Now she believes some kind of new age crap from a book someone gave her back in September (strangely when all our problems started) call "Way of Fool". There is even a web page called weboffool.com but it's in Russian so I can't understand it. Anyways I thought the same but there has been a SERIOUS change spiritually in her. Title: Re: Well.. Post by: Globetrotter on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Well.., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005
Sounds like she's telling you in many ways she doesn't want to try, or stay. So be it. If you ask yourself...what is she able to do, and what is she likely to do....you will be in a realistic position to decide, even though it sounds like you're already there. My squeeze, when I started discussing a pre-nup, asked for half the value of my house....but only after one year!!! I would bet you'll come out of this OK...disappointed and a little poorer, but much smarter. Good luck. Title: Re: Re: Well.. Post by: Scaught on June 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Globetrotter on May 24, 2005
Globetrotter: This is sincere-- You are the smartest guy who has ever posted on this board. Everyone-- learn from this guy!!! Title: Re: Re: Well..mine wants $9,000 Post by: Frank O on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Well.., posted by Globetrotter on May 24, 2005
Now he REFUSES to leave & wants $9,000 she feels she is entitled to. Not sure how she arrived at this figure but this was thrown around back in December. She wanted $8K "in case things didn't work out she could return to Ukraine & have a 'life'". Starting to sound like a REALLY bad scenario for me. I've got my atty's working already. Title: GIVE her the $9,000.00... Post by: BarryM on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Well..mine wants $9,000, posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005
and send her home fast! It could cost you a lot more. Get her out of your life now! You have to be pragmatic with this situation. You've been scammed by a suka that is playing the legal card against you. Don't let it come down to a domestice violence charge or it will get much more expensive. Believe me, it is worth it just to get her ass gone and out of your life. Once she is on that plane, don't waste any time filing the necessary paperwork withdrawing your sponsorship and support for her as well as filing a legal separation. -blm Title: Re: GIVE her the $9,000.00... Post by: Scaught on June 07, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to GIVE her the $9,000.00..., posted by BarryM on May 24, 2005
The domestic violence charges are coming-- it's the script. Frank man, we all wanted the best for you, but you are not dealing with a creature with any humanity. See a lawyer. Keep away from her. Try to have a friend with you as much as possible so you have a witness who says you couldn't have suspended her from a crane 300 feet up-- you were watching Batman reruns at home. I feel for you. You don't deserve this crap. Title: Re: GIVE her the $9,000.00... Post by: david hagar on May 25, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to GIVE her the $9,000.00..., posted by BarryM on May 24, 2005
I agree. give her the nine thousand dollars and cut your loses. it could get worse. beattledog Title: oh,... if you succeed.... Post by: BarryM on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to GIVE her the $9,000.00..., posted by BarryM on May 24, 2005
in getting her on the plane, make sure you give her cash. As a matter of fact, make it a condition of her boarding the plane home. She gets the cash at the gate when it is time to board. If you really want to screw her, find a way to inform Ukraine customs that she will be arriving with a large amount of cash. You might get a little justice that way. Also make sure she is on all the scammer pages henceforth so it will be difficult to for her to try this again. -blm Title: Re: Re: Re: Well..mine wants $9,000 Post by: Streetwise on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Well..mine wants $9,000, posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005
Does she know anyone else in the States? It's hard to believe that she has the knowledge and confidence to play hardball with you on your own doorstep like this, unless there is a third party pulling her chain. Does she have anywhere else to stay? Why not offer her a plane ticket home, and a taxi to the airport, and make it clear from the start that whether or not she takes it, she cannot return to your house again afterwards. Maybe book yourself a holiday somewhere at the same time, so there's no room for further negotiation or hanging out on your doorstep. I would have thought she would take it if she has no other place to go. It's an awful situation for you but it sounds like you're being set up and you need to get tough in response. One day you'll look back on this and at least be glad that it happened sooner rather than later. Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Well..mine wants $9,000 Post by: Michael B on May 25, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Well..mine wants $9,000, posted by Streetwise on May 24, 2005
1) Serious advice: Be sure to book her a flight that leaves the US, not one that connects in NY or Miami or where ever.....otherwise, she'll just get off the plane in the connecting city. You want to make sure that she LEAVES the US, otherwise she'll just keep what ever money you give her (but DON'T give her $9,000, for goodness sakes) and simply stay there or (even worse) come back to follow up on her 'domestic violence' charges. What's that you say, no non-stop flights from Houston to Russia? Book her one that has a connection in Mexico City. 2) Revenge advice: Book her a flight that you TELL her connects in Mexico City, but don't buy the remaining segments. Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Well..mine wants $9,000 Post by: lawcom on May 25, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Well..mine wants $9,000, posted by Streetwise on May 24, 2005
this actually sounds like some good advice. very streetwise. Title: Re: Frank for your own protection....send me the money Post by: wsbill on May 24, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Well..mine wants $9,000, posted by Streetwise on May 24, 2005
Must be clean unmarked $10 & $20, send UPS. I'll dig a hole in my back yard and keep it safe for ya. Title: Re: What's been going on Frank ? Post by: LP on May 23, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to What's been going on Frank ?, posted by wsbill on May 23, 2005
...Hey BS, why don't you leave the guy alone to suffer in peace. It's his business and if he wants to spill anything he'll do it. Your inquiry into his sex life was tasteless enough, the last thing he needs now is to answer more moronic questions from someone who possesses barely enough neurons to wonder what that big orange thing in the sky is or why his chest keeps moving. |