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I must say after being gone 6 months the board has become somewhat
"clique" oriented, or else maybe im just invisible,

after posting my pseudo trip report and observations, i got absolutely zero response other than, what courier do u plan to fly.

6 months ago i would have gotten 5 or 6 replies, saying , hey man glad you finally made it, welcome back to the board, ive been to that place too, blah blah blah, etc etc,

the board seems like now, if  you arent one of the "in" crowd, your posts get somewhat ignored.

What courier DO you plan to fly?  LOL  JUST KIDDING!!!

Good to see you back!  I throroughly enjoyed your report, but have been so busy getting my life back on track lately that I have been reduced to lurker status here :(

It's funny, I was thinking the same thing the other day about how lame the board has been lately, but figured it was just because so many are busy with their Mahals.

I'm glad you had such a positive expirience over there,  It is a wonderful place to hag out for a while.  I'm planning a trip this summer, maybe we'll be there at the same time and can hook up :)  I'll buy yeah dinner or soomethin' :)

Keep the good posts commin'!

I wish you the best!

Keep the Faith

H

outwest,
from my experiences, the loser ALWAYS was either left in the ring to be thrown away or taken backstage to the cooks to be sold as chicken stew.(too tough for KFC ;-). could it be that you observed the WINNER being operated on to fight another battle and bring the owner another handsome payoff.

an enjoyable if but short report, so let's hear all the 'juicy' details.

'twas not so long ago that i saw you posting all kinds of Q's about the PI with a hint of skepticism. now that you've actually been there, could there be a better advice to a contemplating newbie than to say "JUST DO IT!!.?

BTW, same board, some new names, same lurkers...he..he..he

I don’t know, but it sounds reasonable to me (?)... What do you think Jay?

Ray

Jay

"But, what if it lives?"

"No, it always will dead."

Maybe things are different in Cebu....  8)

Only in the Philippines.....

Jay

Hi JephW and Jay,
Yeah it's true, that's the rules of CockFighting in our province too.
Whoever cock wins got to keep the loser cock it's like their trophy, only they cook the live/dead loser's cock and eat it though :)
Isn't it great to be an owner of a winner cock because they gets all the betting money and plus the loser's cock too :) well, that's the rules of the game.

NNP

Personally, I would die! I am really attached to mine. ;o))My wife's family had many cocks and often won. She always refused to eat it, because it is tough and stringy. She says it doesn't taste good like chicken. I think it probably tastes more like snake...perhaps the one-eyed spitting cobra. ;o)))

Dave H.

ROFLMAO...Coughing..Up..My..Sore..Lungs!!!!!!

Hey, maybe in  Latin America too! Well maybe the one who does the eating is gay, but as for boinking...they seem to accept this behavior and have nice little words for it. A man who cheats on his wife or girlfriend by boinking other men would be a chingón in Mexico, a bugaron in Cuba, an activo in Brazil, or a machista in Nicaragua. Somehow, they are not considered gay or even bisexual. 8o( The boinkee is considered gay.

Dave H.

Glad I could bring out the wost in ya! I seem to have that effect on people. :)

That's interesting. I never knew that about latins. Funny, thats the same rules as in prison. Alway's thought it was a pretty bizzare way of looking at things, myself.

Jay

What about in the Philippines...it was sort of the opposite. I met guys who were labeled "gay," that had wives and children. Whatsup with that? I'm going to have to read those "Culture Shock" books again!

Signed,

More confused (Dave H.)

P.S. Jay you always know how to bait me and bring out my worst... ;o)))

Ray

It seems as if there's been a lot of "permanence" taking shape around here, with a number of folks finding the direction they were looking for.  I wouldn't worry too much about the clique thing.  You don't come off like a know it all, and you had a good time.  That's the most important part.

Now all we need is dave posing in his purple g string.

Larry was scaring me too with that bus ride too...and with all the girls that kept popping up on his lap (literally?). ;o))) I thought for sure that the massage lady was a psycho killer...maybe the Dragon Lady's daughter.

Hmmm...me posing in my purple g-string. You've motivated me to get back in shape. ;o)))

Dave H.

lol.  Like, my ex-wifes family had a lot of them... hahahahaha

not g-strings... the other thing with cobras and all.

yikes.

(btw, i'm leaving for russia on the 19th, wish me well, or whatever kinda voodoo dance bit you do ya know!  :^)

Have a FANTASTIC time in Russia!!! I'll go down the the Santeria botanica or Haitian voodoo store and try to concoct some sort of snakeless good luck potion. =8oO

Dave H.

Naturally from my own encounters and experiences in the past, I have realized that pretty much in truth, everyone either does the same as me or tries to find a cushy balance of relating or giving input to things that are comfortable to them or that they care some about. So I guess everyone values the board for what it offers them. The positive side is that it does provide a unique source of input from a variety of people from a variety of lifestyles to reference many attitudes, thoughts, ideas, and perspectives from those who are of learning about Asian relationships and experiences both here and abroad.

And if it makes you feel any better Outwest, I did enjoy your thoughts and reflections on your first adventure to RP. And I do hope you have many more positive experiences there too.

Zeb

Hey man glad you finally made it, welcome back to the board! There, how’s that? :-)

I don’t know why you would say that the board is clique-oriented. You may not get an instant response, but we don’t tend to ignore anyone here, even trolls (LOL). People get busy and it sometimes takes a while, but we’ll eventually get around to answering everyone’s questions and responding to your posts, so don’t go away yet.

That was a good trip report, but I have one burning question: Did you get engaged or anything serious???

Ray

- Jeff S.

-- Jeff S.

But I just didn't want to appear to be a "know it all"!

LOL

Stephen

-- Jeff S.

Bear & Honey

You just gotta be patient and allow us burned out old farts a little time to respond. ;o)) I am stuffy...for real. I thought I was going to have to die to feel better. Thanks to the excellent care of my loving wife...I think I'm going to make it through this terrible (10+ days) flu. Now if I can only get my voice back. :o(

I am happy that you had a GREAT time! From your post, it sounded better than a kid visiting Disney World. Don't beat yourself up for not going 5 years sooner...you finally made it! It sure would be nice if you could spend several months there at a time...a dream of mine also.

Dave H.

I forgot! It's better than Disney, since you're the star attraction...kind of like being Mickey Mouse...without the restrictions. 8:o) It's strange when you get back...I wanted to ask people here why they didn't stare at me and call me guwapo. :o(

Dave "Fester" H.

I was too tired to post last night after work when I read your post. I WAS going to say however, how refreshing it is to see someone who can go to the Philippines especially Manila and see it for the intertesting place it is and not just complain about traffic etc. Good for you. Your the kind of person I could travel with.

Glad ya finally made it, man!

Jay

However, I had just dismissed it as being because I had spent a week in Butuan City prior to coming to Manila.  Heck....any place would be exciting after spending a week in Butuan City.

Stephen

So, Batuan City ain't so rockin',huh? Well, Manila is a cool city to me. Might have something to do with me running the streets there as a kid. It hasn't changed too much since then. Except the traffic. Best at night. Lots of nice resuraunts and clubs to go with your wife.

I remember back in the mid 70's when there was a curfew from 1-4AM. The whole city was quiet with no traffic except an ocassional police truck. It was fun sneaking around as kids with a whole city like a ghost town. Hard to imagine now.

Did you guys make it to Boracay?

Welcome Back btw,
Jay

Yes  it  is  possible  that maybe  the  mentality  of  the  board  has  shifted slightly.  I  think  as  a  group we  have  had  several  visa's  go  though  and long  awaited  reunions  occur  which  takes  time  away  from members posting  as  frequently.

I  have  been  getting  some  overtime  in lately  so  I  am  fried when I  come  home  sometimes.  I  am  also  juggling  my  time  to  try  to  keep  up  with  forming  and  maintaining  friendships  with people  in  Japan.  If  everything  goes  according  to  plan  I  am  shooting  for  Jan / Feb  for  a  visit so  then  I  suppose  I  will owe  a  trip  report  of  my  own  ha ha ha

I  myself enjoy  all  of  the trip  reports I  read.  But  since  I  rarely  have  a  frame  of reference  to comment  on,  I  stay  in  lurker  mode.

Thanks  for  pointing  this  observation out  though.  I  think  it  is  funny  how  somedays  there  will hardly  be  any  activity  and then  other  days  there  will be  6 - 7 new  main topics.

Windmill Boy

First, I'm kind of busy to post a response to every liuttle thing.  Others are probably the same way.  Many probably can't give you a straightforward answer off the bat.  Now, there's the topic search engine feature in the archives section of Planet Love.  That should help to a great extent as this feature sorts by topic the material from all past, archived posts.

About the clique mentality, I agree with you on that.  It's another reason why I don't post so often.  I've discovered that when I post about something, good or bad, I'm subject to the persistent disdain of one or more belligerents.  This undermines the integrity of the board atmosphere to be an objective discussion forum because it only instills fear in some of saying the wrong thing even if it should be said.  I've built up a big enough network in my circle regarding Fil-Am, and a much friendlier atmosphere too, matters that I don't need to rely on the integrity of some of the posters on this board who really aren't here to help but to hinder.

Well, I could even refer you to a Fil-Am website in my area that has links to others  Maybe when I have the web address handy, I'll give it to you.  That site and the links it provides to others in the U.S.A. and beyond (including Iceland) should provide you with the means to some good information about matters such as calling cards and airfares.

Good luck.

- Kevin

I respect your right and everyone else’s right to state their opinions and comments on this forum and I always have. But that respect should work both ways. Posters here should also respect the right of others to disagree with their views or respond to anything they say, especially if it is something of a controversial nature. If someone offers an opposing viewpoint, we should all be able to disagree and discuss the issues in an adult manner, without resorting to violent outbursts and petty name-calling. I think those kind of tactics are good examples of that belligerent behavior that you speak of that undermines the atmosphere of objective discussion.

Please feel free to respond or disagree with anything that I said.

Ray

- Kevin

“If I say something, you'll either try to challenge me and make me look stupid, or deny the reality of a situation”. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that I have the right to respond to any of your posts. If anyone disagrees with something you say, they have every right to challenge you, as you yourself do also. Whenever someone disagrees with you, you seem to take it as a personal attack. That sounds a little paranoid to me. If someone disagrees, you have the right to respond, but you don’t have the right to make personal attacks against that person by calling him or her names and impugning their character. You won’t hesitate to respond if you read something that you disagree with, but you somehow expect that nobody should ever disagree with you. Is that fair Kevin? I don’t think so. You’re no more special than anyone else here and your opinions are no more correct than those of others.

I don’t know what your intention was by making accusations against "unnamed individuals" in your response to outwest, but it sure looks like you were trying to start another fight AGAIN.

Just my opinion,

Ray

You've attacked me enough, and persistently, to leave a lasting negative impression about you in my mind and heart, and a bad taste in my mouth.

Perhaps the start of this particular battle was more of my doing than yours.  Well, I have pent-up anger in me towards you and somebody said something that was "right on the button".  Why should I be afraid I might offend you?  After all, you've repeatedly insulted me left and right.  I post about a new friendship a while back.  You then come and attack me to the tune that anybody that introduces me to a nice girl is crazy, blah...blah...blah.  That's one sore instance of a personal attack by you directed at me that it will take a long time for me to forget.

- Kevin

You know what Kevin, after all the hateful names that you’ve called me on this forum I really don’t feel any anger or hatred toward you because it just doesn’t matter. If anyone judges me by what you say in your hateful rages, then that’s their problem, not mine. No, I don’t hate you Kevin because you are just another insignificant poster on a Web forum. I feel sorry for you that you have to lay awake at night seething with anger and hatred over this silly stuff. I truly hope that some day you can learn to deal with your emotions and finally have peace in your life.

Ray

You say I throw stones for the sake of doing it when the opportunity arises.  It seems to me, that a while back, perhaps several months ago, in one of your posts, you had made reference to me (yes, I'm positive you did cite my name) that I had a bad attitude towards women, I forgot exactly.  I'd have to search the archives.  Anyways, I had not posted in awhile.  There was no need for that.  You expect me to sit back and meekly take your insults like you're God high up above casting an adverse judgement about me.

Smile, Ray, Smile!

- Kevin

I guess you still can’t see the reason why I made those comments because you had already made up your mind long ago that I was your “enemy” and I was only out to embarrass and humiliate you. You’re probably one of the most sensitive guys who have ever posted here regularly. A lot of people have tried to help you by offering advice or commenting on something you have said. If those comments or ideas don’t fit into your own narrow view of the world, it doesn’t mean that they were made in an effort to put you down. Just try to open your mind and listen to other viewpoints before you strike out at the writer in “self defense” against a perceived personal attack on you. If you can objectively consider opposing points of view, you may just learn something. If you want to close your mind to any criticism of your thoughts or actions, then it’s your loss.

I think you have already placed a lot of posters here on your “enemy list” because they have said something that you didn’t like. If you want to consider me your enemy and go through life hating me, I really don’t care Kevin. It really means nothing to me. If I comment on anything you say or do, I guess you will automatically consider it an attempt to insult and humiliate you, but I won’t let that stop me from expressing my views or responding to anything that is posted on this forum. Anything you say here is open for comment or discussion as far as I’m concerned, so be forewarned that you may not like everything that you hear. You know what Kevin? That’s life.

And yes Kevin, I am smiling. You should also try to do more of the same also... :-)

Ray

As far as my love life is concerned, I've got several pinay friends at various levels, but nobody I'm serious or exclusive with.  I've got my eyes open to new girls (pinay girls) whether introduced in the Philippines or the United States.

The Apo Hiking Society came to Rhode Island this Saturday.  Elizabeth Matyka and Janet Basco also performed. They were sponsored by the Hope Foundation.  Janet Basco reminds me so much of Dionne Warwick, the way she sings.

There were so many pretty girls in the crowd who attended.  But they were strangers.  A couple of girls I saw, I'd be delighted to go out with.  As well as introduction through correspondence, I'm open to meeting a nice pinay through social functions which I think is quite possible.

- Kevin

          keep the faith,    joemc