Title: EE: Sex Slavery Traffic Post by: tim360z on January 25, 2004, 05:00:00 AM a good read for anyone, http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/magazine/25SEXTRAFFIC.html?th
Title: this story keeps getting curiouser and curioser Post by: fencer on January 28, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to EE: Sex Slavery Traffic, posted by tim360z on Jan 25, 2004
Lots of skepticism is being heaped on this article, almost holding it up as a case study in bad journalism. Some people might be interested in some of the commentaries in Slate. http://slate.msn.com/id/2094414/ http://slate.msn.com/id/2094502/ They are a great read and give the lie to the notion this article has been "fact-checked out the wazoo before it's published". Title: Re: I guess to the press folks it's always about Post by: wsbill on February 01, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to this story keeps getting curiouser and c..., posted by fencer on Jan 28, 2004
disputing the story, if they don't have the story of the year, well then, it's time to discredit the writer and call it all a hoax...
It's simply not their problem or their life. So they, stick with bashing the writer. So maybe 3/4 of this story has be fabricated. *(I certainly wouldn't want to be too factual as these gangs don't fool around, knocking off a accurate reporter would be just too easy to do). But is that to say it doesn't happen? Or do they just want to have their names attached to the article as being the critic. The critic for social injustice. I guess this is how they make a name for themselves making and vindicating their lifes work, while on their way to becoming a critic for attack government policy. So in fact, we have two writers or more who are seeking self satifaction and reward, and then theirs the pawn who gets nothing...except exploited for their youth and discarded. Title: Re: EE: Sex Slavery Traffic Post by: valuedcustomer on January 26, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to EE: Sex Slavery Traffic, posted by tim360z on Jan 25, 2004
Someone transferred this post to the Latin Board so I will respond here. I would urge men to be skeptical about this article and not just swallow it whole. The alleged examples of brutality are so over the top that it has the feel of sensationalistic journalism. Especially, when the same article admits that the Los Angeles Police Department doesn't consider sex trafficking to be a problem. I quote from page 8 of 10: "No Department of Justice attorney or police vice squad officer I spoke with in Los Angeles -- one of the country's busiest thoroughfares for forced sex traffic -- considers sex trafficking in the U.S. a serious problem, or a priority." Personally, I believe very little from the same media that daily sells me Michael Jackson, Kobe Bryant, and Scott Peterson as truth when it is mostly entertainment for the purpose of selling soap. O, bye the way, they are all men accused of doing typically nasty male deeds. Anyone see a pattern here? Are you a man? Then there's no hope. At least according to the parasites that run the american media, maybe you should slit your wrists. I also don't see the relevance of bringing this up on a board for men looking for foreign wives. We are all basically trying our best to escape a culture poisoned against men mostly by the three do-nothing agencies of the american system where parasites are known to thrive most productively: the media, academics, and government. We all need good information here from experienced men and not more propaganda from the enemy. Remember: the US media lies and there is a difference between allegations and facts. Title: uuuummmmhh? Post by: tim360z on January 26, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: EE: Sex Slavery Traffic, posted by valuedcustomer on Jan 26, 2004
Hard to disagree with your "logic"??? Your sterling intellect? Any other "gems"??? Title: Re: I think he's the same guy who Hitler hired for his Post by: wsbill on January 26, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to uuuummmmhh?, posted by tim360z on Jan 26, 2004
Public relation while in the business to gasing and cremating the Jewish population in the 1935-45. Title: Re: Re: I think he's the same guy who Hitler hired for his Post by: valuedcustomer on January 26, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I think he's the same guy who Hitler..., posted by wsbill on Jan 26, 2004
The fact that you can only respond with sarcasm reflects on your intelligence. An update: as I was driving home tonight I heard that same guy who wrote that article on NPR radio spinning his horror yarns. So he is obviously making the rounds and cashing in to enhance his career. You might want to ask yourself why, according to the admissions in his own article, the police don't think there is as much of a problem as he does. Not everything you see in print is true. I am just asking the intelligent men out there to look at the article with a skeptical eye. Title: PS: Sex slavery is about children aged, 8, 9, Post by: tim360z on January 27, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: I think he's the same guy who Hi..., posted by valuedcustomer on Jan 26, 2004
10,12,6 and below, even babies. For those of you thinking this has something to do with the further eroding of your already eroded male rights...you are outta line. These are kids, female and male. The traffickers go for the kids, not the 22 or 25 year olds--they are way too old. Pervs pay more for sex with kids.... And I fail to see how protecting kids from sexual slavery has ANYTHING to do with your diminishing male rights. Title: Skeptical??? About what? Post by: tim360z on January 27, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: I think he's the same guy who Hi..., posted by valuedcustomer on Jan 26, 2004
That sex slavery does not exist? That it is not a world wide problem? This is not a real problem with real victims? Wherein is the lie? This is only 1 story, the WHO and UN and international government agencies have countless others, it is not an illusion. It is a problem Putin has fully recognized and made attempts to stop. There are ample credible resources. Despite its flaws, the news organizations merely cast some light on a subject most would rather not have to deal with. Pure and simple...it is slavery. Possibly, you condone it. The problem is endemic to the former FSU. Do some intelligent research before you start typing. Otherwise, one would think you are an unintelligent ninkinpoop. Title: Re: Re: Re: I think he's the same guy who Hitler hired for his Post by: Mark A on January 27, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: I think he's the same guy who Hi..., posted by valuedcustomer on Jan 26, 2004
I didn't really want to get involved in this thread, but what the hey... Without providing any specifics about the article that people find questionable, it's silly to suggest that we discount it. I have issues with the NY Times, and the recent scandal notwithstanding, you can bet any feature article (particularly a Sunday Magazine piece) is fact-checked out the wazoo before it's published. I also take issue with the contention that the article is typical feminist male bashing. The author makes a very adamant point on p4 about how women are involved: "Once the Mexican traffickers abduct or seduce the women and young girls, it's not other men who first indoctrinate them into sexual slavery but other women... Women are the principals... the victims are put under the influence of the mothers, who handle them and beat them... Men are the customers and controllers, but within most trafficking organizations themselves, women are the operators... Women are the ones who exert violent force and psychological torture." Am I reading the same article? In this context, the behavior of women slavers seems to me much more insidious than the men's. Here in the NYC area, there are a number of "Gentlemen's Clubs" (quotes added for irony LOL) wherein each night a repatronized school bus pulls up full of beautiful young Russian women. At the end of the night, the bus takes them back to Brooklyn. Rumor (and nothing more than rumor, although I won't discount it) has it that the women are slaves under the control of the Russian mafia. The women don't complain (probably out of fear), the people in Brooklyn don't complain, the club owners don't complain, and of course the club patrons don't complain. So why should the police get involved? Title: You Have GOT To Be Kidding . . . Post by: Dan on January 27, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: I think he's the same guy wh..., posted by Mark A on Jan 27, 2004
Please tell me you didn't really mean what you said about "So why should the police get involved?" How about the fact that - according to your own written perspective - the girls are held and kept quiet "out of fear." Would you want your daughter to be subjected to that kind of bondage - and then promote that others be passive about it?!? Then, of course, there is the (not so) small matter that the populace elected politicians and legislators that passed laws ruling that specific behavior as illegal. In fact, it is not only illegal, it is a felony (as opposed to a lesser crime of misdemeanor). And if you really think the NY Times is any less subject to the feminist agenda, you really are smoking something good. Can I get a referral to your source? - Dan Title: Re: You Have GOT To Be Kidding . . . Post by: Mark A on January 28, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to You Have GOT To Be Kidding . . . , posted by Dan on Jan 27, 2004
Dan, you misinterpreted my post. Of course law enforcement should absolutely be involved in looking into this. Someone in this thread was skeptical about slavery being "problem" because the police didn't believe it was widespread enough to be a concern. "If the cops don't think it's a problem, then it doesn't exist" is convoluted logic. By the same token, without specific info or public outcry, the police have other fish to fry. And for those who think the author is promoting his career by talking about this on NPR... Well duh, the guy broke an important story that deserves further discussion. Lastly, there's not a whiff of proof that there's a "feminist agenda" behind the article. I have to laugh at the usual stream of whiners who want to blame their diminished stature on women. Guys: join a support group, read "Iron John," or something, because your constant whining makes you seem--dare I say--womanish. Title: This is more about KIDS and Post by: tim360z on January 27, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to You Have GOT To Be Kidding . . . , posted by Dan on Jan 27, 2004
less to do with feminist agendas. And the Times vets it's content better than most, surely better than GW. Title: Re: Maybe the question DAN should asking are Post by: wsbill on January 27, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to You Have GOT To Be Kidding . . . , posted by Dan on Jan 27, 2004
What's the name of some of those gentlemens clubs? http://abroad.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2004/01/28/011.html Title: Hey Bill, I Understand You Got Some Good Soil Down There ... Post by: Dan on January 28, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Maybe the question DAN should asking..., posted by wsbill on Jan 27, 2004
Grows just about anything - or so they say. Seriously, if you are suggesting that I am somehow supporting or condoning the sexual slavery problem, you aren't reading my messages. I am - at the same time - *extremely* skeptical about the veracity of stories coming from the press. A tenet of democracy is a free press - and I am thankful we protect it - but it is often influenced by special interest groups (such as the feminists). So I read the stories just like everyone else - and I challenge the positions of the reporter by examining; (a) the laws of common sense, (b) my own experiences to see if they support or refute the article, and (c) whatever agenda the writer may have. I look for other things as well - before I will believe what is written - but, admittedly, that is just *my* style and it may not work for everyone. - Dan Title: Re: I don't grow in soil... Post by: wsbill on January 28, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hey Bill, I Understand You Got Some Good..., posted by Dan on Jan 28, 2004
But I agree some of you guys are just plain anti-women. What's going to happen when your future wife every questions you or some actions. I can hear it now "she's a feminist". Some of you guys are just to submissived mined, I sincerely hope you guys don't demoralize you wife to a point she is just MUTE all the time. Even a caveman didn't mind a little female interjection once in a while. Course, what happen to the caveman. Title: Re: Re: I don't grow in soil... Post by: Jack on January 28, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I don't grow in soil..., posted by wsbill on Jan 28, 2004
wildbill, damn, send me some of dem termaters! And you know what happened to the caveman? They smoked some bad termaters! Title: Re: Re: Your just going to have to come here Post by: wsbill on January 28, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: I don't grow in soil..., posted by Jack on Jan 28, 2004
and get ya some. I sell the Green Tomatos are just $1.50 a lbs. I got some Russian Red Kale but it's kinda slowed down on growing since it started getting cold out. $1.50 lbs. I'll even sell my Bibb lettuce $1 a head. I think wally world has their hydro tomatos priced at $1.94 a pound. lol. Title: Re: Why not write the writer and ask their motive ? Post by: wsbill on January 28, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hey Bill, I Understand You Got Some Good..., posted by Dan on Jan 28, 2004
But, it's just like I pointed out about Hilter and his PR scheme. There wasn't one. People had wrote about gas chambers, but the whole notion was quickly dismissed. Maybe you should call the border patrol, INS and ask them. Go for the fact. These guys see it all the time. I'm sure everyday when the round up some of the illegals coming across, they electronically fingerprint them and get a digital photo as well. You can certainly bet they have a good idea, what the flow ratios are. No telling how many are piped in via tunnels as well. I seriously doubt if these women are wear just the close on their backs as high heels in the desert is a no brainer, but sneaker are the pref choice. (a) the laws of common sense, (b) my own experiences to see if they support or refute the article, and (c) whatever agenda the writer may have. Title: You guys are twisting... Post by: LP on January 28, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Hey Bill, I Understand You Got Some Good..., posted by Dan on Jan 28, 2004
[This message has been edited by LP] ...this all up. You're all right fwiw, the entire thing went off on too many tangents and most of them are true. I personally don't think forced sex is a serious problem in the US (no one's been forcing it on me ;) but it's outta hand in other places and nothing any of us does is gonna change that. What does occur in the US should be stomped out but it's not nearly as bad as the other immigration problems along our southern border. And I'm speaking of the forced sex trade, not "normal" prostitution. Hooking is as old as dirt and nothing any of us do is gonna change that either. As for the guy who said none of us should deal with prostitutes, wise up. You prostitute yourself in some way every time you deal with a woman, hooker or not. Not to mention the world's oldest profession can be halfway respectable if run properly. As long as there is demand (mainly in western europe) on one side and women desparate enough to escape the economics of the FSU (so much for the lookin for love theory huh?) it'll continue. Lets face it, Americans are not known for their sexual escapades compared to europeans. (lol, unless you're a certain guy from TX who finally got some and can't stop talking about it). As for Bill, well, he's Bill. He needs a hooker more than anyone here and can't even afford a bad one. But hang in there Bill, when that Wally World gets built it'll bring all manner of classy folk your way. Btw, wax in my ears would cause me real problems with pressure changes so I keep 'em clear. Its not wax that inflict deafness about your stock tips, it's your bank balance. But you might get lucky on Sandisk, if you make that killing be sure to buy some new wheels for the Billmobile. Title: Re: Re: Re: I think he's the same guy who Hitler hired for his Post by: Patrick on January 27, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: I think he's the same guy who Hi..., posted by valuedcustomer on Jan 26, 2004
I found a fair amount of the story questionable myself. Take the $200,000 weekly graft payment in Mexico. That's a huge amount of money and perhaps possible for a large narco-trafficing ring, but I don't think there could be that kind of money in this. Prostitution is tolerated in Mexico, and for that matter in the majority of countries, even here in the state of Nevada, so there's plenty of women working voluntarily. I don't think there could be that big a market for this kind of thing. Certainly not one that would enable the people working at the start of the chain to be making $200,000 US dollar weekly graft payments. Title: I Could Not Agree More . . . Post by: Dan on January 27, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: I think he's the same guy who Hi..., posted by valuedcustomer on Jan 26, 2004
No-one will deny that a young person (male or female) forced into sexual bondage is a horrific act. Well, on 2nd thought, since there are both purveyors and customers, some are even more than tolerant. Still, I have to believe the majority of people find this act far worse than disgusting. However, there is truth in what you say. The press in America clearly leans toward the sensational - the unfortunate byproduct of what their readership buys. Interesting isn't it - that most on this particular board will bemoan the loss of male dignity to ever-increasing femi-nazi behavior in America, while at the same time, failing to see the pernicious effects of the media and how it promotes the anti-male agenda. It has become far worse than simply a movement for women's equality (something I generally agree with), but has become a campaign to emasculate men - and it's succeeding. Just my opinion. - Dan Title: ditto, here Post by: KenC on January 27, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I Could Not Agree More . . ., posted by Dan on Jan 27, 2004
I was appalled by the article when I read it. Fencer's post below had a big effect on me too (where feminists include mail order brides in their "sex slave" numbers)Makes one wonder where the truth really is. KenC Title: Re: EE: Sex Slavery Traffic Post by: stefang on January 25, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to EE: Sex Slavery Traffic, posted by tim360z on Jan 25, 2004
My feelings about this would get me banned from the board so I will not say anything except if I was in power the abusers would not like my form of penalties. Title: Re: Re: EE: Sex Slavery Traffic Post by: Travis on January 26, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: EE: Sex Slavery Traffic, posted by stefang on Jan 25, 2004
I agree with you, that's why it's best I keep my mouth shut. I had a friend in the army that was stationed in Bosnia where things like this were happening. It made me feel pretty good to know what the US army did to these guys when they found them! Title: Re: EE: Sex Slavery Traffic Post by: chevy on January 25, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to EE: Sex Slavery Traffic, posted by tim360z on Jan 25, 2004
Hopefully no one on these boards would consider visiting prostitutes. Everyone who does is complicit in the problem. Title: Re: Re: EE: Sex Slavery Traffic Post by: fencer on January 26, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: EE: Sex Slavery Traffic, posted by chevy on Jan 25, 2004
Feminists don't make many distinctions between sexual trafficking in women and the MOB business. Here's a representative quote from "The Center For Women Policy Studies": "Women and girls who are trafficked into the United States are forced into prostitution and sexual slavery that takes a variety of forms – from virtual imprisonment in brothels to participation in the production of pornography to commercial or exploitative marriages, often as mail order brides. In 1998, for example, more than 200 international mail order bride businesses-- or bride trafficking businesses -- operated in the United States, bringing up to 6,000 women each year into this country for marriage to American men. http://www.centerwomenpolicy.org/report.cfm?ReportID=79 Is anyone on this board who's gone the MOB route engaged in the sexual trafficking of women? I don't think so. But these feminists don't make any fine distinctions when it suits their agenda and neither will legislators in Congress when they pass laws against international introduction services. And they are even less likely to do so when the whole country has been whipped up into a frenzy by sensationalistic journalism.
Chevy, tell me again why I'm complicit? Title: Re: That's a FACT... wonder how many guys Post by: wsbill on January 25, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: EE: Sex Slavery Traffic, posted by chevy on Jan 25, 2004
hitting this site are doing this for the livelyhood. Title: Re: Here is the easy to read version Post by: wsbill on January 25, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to EE: Sex Slavery Traffic, posted by tim360z on Jan 25, 2004
January 25, 2004 The Girls Next Door By PETER LANDESMAN he house at 1212 1/2 West Front Street in Plainfield, N.J., is a conventional midcentury home with slate-gray siding, white trim and Victorian lines. When I stood in On a tip, the Plainfield police raided the house in February 2002, expecting to find illegal aliens working an underground brothel. What the police found were four girls The police found a squalid, land-based equivalent of a 19th-century slave ship, with rancid, doorless bathrooms; bare, putrid mattresses; and a stash of penicillin, ''morning It turned out that 1212 1/2 West Front Street was one of what law-enforcement officials say are dozens of active stash houses and apartments in the New York Because of the porousness of the U.S.-Mexico border and the criminal networks that traverse it, the towns and cities along that border have become the main staging Last September, in a speech before the United Nations General Assembly, President Bush named sex trafficking as ''a special evil,'' a multibillion-dollar ''underground of Under the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 -- the first U.S. law to recognize that people trafficked against their will are victims of a crime, not illegal aliens -- The thrust of the president's U.N. speech and the scope of the laws passed here to address the sex-trafficking epidemic might suggest that this is a global problem but not In fact, the United States has become a major importer of sex slaves. Last year, the C.I.A. estimated that between 18,000 and 20,000 people are trafficked annually into ABDUCTION In Eastern European capitals like Kiev and Moscow, dozens of sex-trafficking rings advertise nanny positions in the United States in local newspapers; others claim to be The Eastern European trafficking operations, from entrapment to transport, tend to be well-oiled monoethnic machines. One notorious Ukrainian ring, which has since In October, I met Nicole, a young Russian woman who had been trafficked into Mexico by a different network. ''I wanted to get out of Moscow, and they told me the Two years ago, afraid for her life after her boyfriend was gunned down in Moscow in an organized-crime-related shootout, she found herself across a cafe table in Donna M. Hughes, a professor of women's studies at the University of Rhode Island and an expert on sex trafficking, says that prostitution barely existed 12 years ago in The girls' first contacts are usually with what appear to be legitimate travel agencies. According to prosecutors, the Komisaruk/Mezheritsky ring in Ukraine worked with Every day, flights from Paris, London and Amsterdam arrive at Mexico City's international airport carrying groups of these girls, sometimes as many as seven at a time, Magdalena Carral, Mexico's commissioner of the National Institute of Migration, the government agency that controls migration issues at all airports, seaports and land ut Mexico is not merely a way station en route to the U.S. for third-country traffickers, like the Eastern European rings. It is also a vast source of even younger Like the Sicilian Mafia, Los Lenones are based on family hierarchies, Caballero explained. The father controls the organization and the money, while the sons and their The majority of Los Lenones -- 80 percent of them, Caballero says -- are based in Tenancingo, a charmless suburb an hour's drive south of Mexico City. Before I left On the way, we stopped at a gas station, where I met the parents of a girl from Tenancingo who was reportedly abducted in August 2000. The girl, Suri, is now 20. Her Just two days earlier, her parents heard from Suri (they call her by her nickname) for the first time since she disappeared. ''She's in Queens, New York,'' the mother told Sex-trafficking victims widely believe that if they talk, they or someone they love will be killed. And their fear is not unfounded, since the tentacles of the trafficking rings One officer in the P.F.P.'s anti-trafficking division told me that 10 high-level officials in the state of Sonora share a $200,000 weekly payoff from traffickers, a gargantuan ''Some officials are not only on the organization's payroll, they are key players in the organization,'' an official at the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City told me. ''Corruption is Nicolas Suarez, the P.F.P.'s coordinator of intelligence, sounded fatalistic about corruption when I spoke to him in Mexico City in September. ''We have that cancer, The U.S. Embassy official told me: ''Mexican officials see sex trafficking as a U.S. problem. If there wasn't such a large demand, then people -- trafficking victims and When I asked Magdalena Carral, the Mexican commissioner of migration, about these accusations, she said that she didn't know anything about Los Lenones or sex Gary Haugen, president of the International Justice Mission, an organization based in Arlington, Va., that fights sexual exploitation in South Asia and Southeast Asia, says: BREAKING THE GIRLS IN Once the Mexican traffickers abduct or seduce the women and young girls, it's not other men who first indoctrinate them into sexual slavery but other women. The This mirrors the tactics of the Eastern European rings. ''Mexican pimps have learned a lot from European traffickers,'' said Claudia, a former prostitute and madam in her The traffickers' harvest is innocence. Before young women and girls are taken to the United States, their captors want to obliterate their sexual inexperience while For the Mexican girls abducted by Los Lenones, the process of breaking them in often begins on Calle Santo Tomas, a filthy narrow street in La Merced, a dangerous and Inside, the girls braced the men before a statue of St. Jude, the patron saint of lost causes, and patted them down for weapons. Then the girls genuflected to the Most of the girls on Santo Tomas would have sex with 20 to 30 men a day; they would do this seven days a week usually for weeks but sometimes for months before In Europe, girls and women trafficked for the sex trade gain in value the closer they get to their destinations. According to Iana Matei, who operates Reaching Out, a Jonathan M. Winer, deputy assistant secretary of state for international law enforcement in the Clinton administration, says, ''The girls are worth a penny or a ruble in CROSSING THE BORDER In November, I followed by helicopter the 12-foot-high sheet-metal fence that represents the U.S.-Mexico boundary from Imperial Beach, Calif., south of San Diego, 14 A few miles east, we picked up a deeply grooved trail at the fence and followed it for miles into the hills until it plunged into a deep isolated ravine called Cottonwood ''If a girl tries to run, she's killed and becomes just one more woman in the desert,'' says Marisa B. Ugarte, director of the Bilateral Safety Corridor Coalition, a San Diego One girl who was trafficked back and forth across that border repeatedly was Andrea. ''Andrea'' is just one name she was given by her traffickers and clients; she In a series of excruciating conversations, Andrea explained to me how the trafficking ring that kept her worked, moving young girls (and boys too) back and forth over the ''The border is very busy, lots of stuff moving back and forth,'' she said. ''Say you needed to get some kids. This guy would offer a woman a lot of money, and she'd take Andrea continued: ''There would be a truck waiting for us at the Mexico border, and those trucks you don't want to ride in. Those trucks are closed. They had spots Andrea told me she was transported to Juarez dozens of times. During one visit, when she was about 7 years old, the trafficker took her to the Radisson Casa Grande Then she and the other children and teenagers in this cell were walked back across the border to El Paso by the traffickers. ''The border guards talked to you like, 'Did Another trafficking victim I met, a young woman named Montserrat, was taken to the United States from Veracruz, Mexico, six years ago, at age 13. (Montserrat is her The group was marched 12 hours through the desert, just a few of the thousands of Mexicans who bolted for America that night along the 2,000 miles of border. Cars IN THE UNITED STATES: HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT A week after Montserrat was taken across the border, she said, she and half a dozen other girls were loaded into a windowless van. ''Alejandro dropped off girls at gas Eventually, only Montserrat and one other girl remained. Outside, the air had turned frigid, and there was snow on the ground. It was night when the van stopped at a gas After leaving the gas station, Alejandro drove Montserrat to an apartment. A couple of weeks later he took her to a Dollarstore. ''He bought me makeup,'' Montserrat told Montserrat said that she didn't leave that apartment for the next three months, then for nine months after that, Alejandro regularly took her in and out of the apartment for Sex trafficking is one of the few human rights violations that rely on exposure: victims have to be available, displayed, delivered and returned. Girls were shuttled in open In the past several months, I have visited a number of addresses where trafficked girls and young women have reportedly ended up: besides the house in Plainfield, N.J., ''This is not narco-traffic secrecy,'' says Sharon B. Cohn, director of anti-trafficking operations for the International Justice Mission. ''These are not people kidnapped and I.J.M.'s president, Gary Haugen, says: ''It's the easiest kind of crime in the world to spot. Men look for it all day, every day.'' But border agents and local policemen usually don't know trafficking when they see it. The operating assumption among American police departments is that women who The U.S. now offers 5,000 visas a year to trafficking victims to allow them to apply for residency. And there's faint hope among sex-trafficking experts that the Bush ''It's not a particularly complicated thing,'' says Sharon Cohn of International Justice Mission. ''Sex trafficking gets thrown into issues of intimacy and vice, but it's a major IMPRISONMENT AND SUBMISSION The basement, Andrea said, held as many as 16 children and teenagers of different ethnicities. She remembers that it was underneath a house in an upper-middle-class Andrea paused. ''But nothing happens to you in the basement,'' she continued. ''You just had to worry about when the door opened.'' She explained: ''They would call you out of the basement, and you'd get a bath and you'd get a dress, and if your dress was yellow you were probably going to Her account reminded me -- painfully -- of the legend of the Pied Piper of Hamelin. In the story, a piper shows up and asks for 1,000 guilders for ridding the town of a Montserrat said that she was moved around a lot and often didn't know where she was. She recalled that she was in Detroit for two months before she realized that she All the girls I spoke to said that their captors were both psychologically and physically abusive. Andrea told me that she and the other children she was held with were ''They'd get you hungry then to train you'' to have oral sex, she said. ''They'd put honey on a man. For the littlest kids, you had to learn not to gag. And they would push Kevin Bales of Free the Slaves says: ''The physical path of a person being trafficked includes stages of degradation of a person's mental state. A victim gets deprived of Then add one more layer: a sex-trafficking victim's belief that her family is being tracked as collateral for her body. All sex-trafficking operations, whether Mexican, ''There's a vast misunderstanding of what coercion is, of how little it takes to make someone a slave,'' Gary Haugen of International Justice Mission said. ''The destruction In Tijuana in November, I met with Mamacita, a Mexican trafficking-victim-turned-madam, who used to oversee a stash house for sex slaves in San Diego. Mamacita In Vista, Calif., I followed a pickup truck driven by a San Diego sheriff's deputy named Rick Castro. We wound past a tidy suburban downtown, a supermall and the A neat subdivision and cycling path ran along the opposite bank. The San Luis Rey was mostly dry, filled now with an impenetrable jungle of 15-foot-high bamboolike I followed Castro into the riverbed, and only 50 yards from the road we found a confounding warren of more than 30 roomlike caves carved into the reeds. It was a sunny If anything, the women I talked to said that the sex in the U.S. is even rougher than what the girls face on Calle Santo Tomas. Rosario, a woman I met in Mexico City, Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents at the Cyber Crimes Center in Fairfax, Va., are finding that when it comes to sex, what was once considered abnormal is But the supply of cheap girls and young women to feed the global appetite appears to be limitless. And it's possible that the crimes committed against them in the U.S. cut ENDGAME Typically, a young trafficking victim in the U.S. lasts in the system for two to four years. After that, Bales says: ''She may be killed in the brothel. She may be dumped Who can expect a young woman trafficked into the U.S., trapped in a foreign culture, perhaps unable to speak English, physically and emotionally abused and perhaps And if the girls are lucky enough to escape, there's often nowhere for them to go. ''The families don't want them back,'' Sister Veronica, a nun who helps run a rescue When I first met her, Andrea told me: ''We're way too damaged to give back. A lot of these children never wanted to see their parents again after a while, because what Peter Landesman is a contributing writer for the magazine. He last wrote about illegal weapons trafficking. Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company Title: Re: Compress your IE window down to 4" and it'll read like Post by: wsbill on January 25, 2004, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Here is the easy to read version, posted by wsbill on Jan 25, 2004
a newspaper column. Patrick we should delete this article after a day or two, so the NYT doesn't have a hissy-fit. This was just too important of an article to hold out on the guys looking on. This is just another reason for guys not to broadcast to the world they have a foreign wife, as you may never know who may come to the door when your not home. |