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Whoever said that these ladies are emotional and passionate made a huge understatement.  Other than the emotional times, things are going great.  I can relate to those who have experienced other men staring at their beautiful wife.  I experienced it several times in Kiev and then on the second day after my fiancee arrived.  We walked into a deli to grab some lunch and first the man behind the counter had his eyes pop open wide and then I noticed the guy sitting at a table eating look up with eyes popping almost out of his head.  My fiancee really looks great all the time.  I often see other men full of envy, my co-workers, the mechanic, just about everywhere we go.  It is fantastic to go out dancing with her.  She makes special effort to take care of me with washing dishes and doing the ironing and making me lunch to take to work.  She insisted that we clean my vehicle and told me to please not eat in it.  She gives me massages any time I want.  She is somewhat clingy  because I am her only support here but she is starting to make friends.  I got her started in an English class and will get her in a driving class soon.  All in all things are great except for her getting upset about something about once a day.  Tonight we went to a coffee shop because I wanted a hot chocolate.  There was a display case and I asked her what she wanted.  She did not know what she wanted even though she could see all of the choices but without her telling me what she wanted, she expected me to order something acceptable to her and she was upset that I did not read her mind and order for her.  At the dance place last night, she got upset when I did a line dance without her.  Rather than just watch and wait for my return, she pouted and even though we had an excellent night, she whined and complained on the way home.  I refused to put up with it and started singing.  After about 20 songs, she got over it and started singing too.  Good thing it was an hour and a half drive.  After two weeks, I am finally being able to get a little sleep.  Hopefully the next two weeks will be even better.  

... in response to Fiance here two weeks report, posted by Ramblin on Nov 18, 2002

ramblin, may i ask how long you knew your bride before you married her.

... in response to Re: Fiance here two weeks report, posted by landscaper on Nov 22, 2002

Not long.  About a little over two months of writing every other day.  I met her on the third week of a three week second trip to Ukraine but she is from Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan.  She applied for her first job as a personal trainer but they told her that they only hire certified trainers.  Sbe walked home from her interview and was propositioned for rides home, got several honks and waves, and a couple of guys passing by on the sidewalk asked her for her telephone number.  She told me this when I got home from work and I was not surprised.  All is going well, we are very much in love and extremely happy.  She whines a little once in a while when she wants to have her own way and says my name in that pleading kind of tone, but other than that, we are getting along just great.

... in response to Fiance here two weeks report, posted by Ramblin on Nov 18, 2002

Your post reminded me of when Kate came a year ago-  and I wish you all the best-- remember that-- cause now I am going to "rag" on ya--

What were you thinking leaving her alone to go line dance???- especially after her only being here two weeks... just my opinion  but not a good move... every lady is different but...

2nd point.. it may only be that she is only here two weeks that she seems clingy or overly clingy... Kate now wanders around the store by herself sometimes now when we are shopping but for a long time (perhaps because of her fear of using english with a stranger) she was afraid to be by herself in the store...

3rd point-- Ive made it before... half joking -- the most important words are  "yes dear"--- you are king of the castle but she is queen of the home... LOL  dont be a doormat but dont get upset about little stuff- and most stuff is little stuff-- and be aware of what time of month it is... lol

heck ramblin-- I am still learning myself and after a couple of difficult weeks last winter I asked one married guy if after a couple of years if it gets any easier and he just sighed (as yoda would have when he talked to young skywalker lol)  and said marriage is wonderful but give up thinking you will ever have it all figured out!! LOL  get use to it... but enjoy the fantastic moments!!!!!!!

Keith

... in response to Fiance here two weeks report, posted by Ramblin on Nov 18, 2002

Should I be raising my expectations?  I figured I could never go to Russia and get the kind of women I used to get 10 years ago here but it sounds like all you guys are getting the hot women.  I was just planning on a nice looking girl in her late 20s.  

Hey, if you have to drive 1 1/2 hours to go country line dancing then you must not live in Texas!

... in response to Is everybody going for the trophy wife?, posted by BubbaGump on Nov 18, 2002

At age 45, going for a nice looking gal in her late 20's is not getting what would be hard to find in the USA? I mean without her being mentally retarded or sumpin like that. And, now you want to make her a model to boot? LOL

... in response to Is everybody going for the trophy wife?, posted by BubbaGump on Nov 18, 2002

ggg

... in response to Damn straight, skippy!....n/t, posted by Stevo on Nov 18, 2002

n/t

... in response to Is everybody going for the trophy wife?, posted by BubbaGump on Nov 18, 2002

I can speak for myself here. I am 41 in good shape, look much younger. I am also looking for 27-32 yo. I also dated very attractive women 10 years ago, and that the reason I am looking at FSU. There are many there, and I don't consider any of them out of my league. Problem with the AW here that age is most want a guy their age. The down side also to these AW's besides self centerness, is many are deep into debt, whereas at least the FSU wome don't have a negative net worth. Remember when you marry debt, it becomes yours, many aw's college educated, or advanced degrees types owe big student loans, car, credit card etc.

... in response to Re: Is everybody going for the trophy wi..., posted by petem on Nov 18, 2002

Don't think your going to get of scot free! Those AW may bring debt into a new relationship, but I wonder how the amount of debt they may have compares to the hidden costs involved in bringing a lady from FSU into your home country?

Your new woman from FSU won't be able to work or at least only work at menial low paying part-time jobs whilst she's studying and perfects her English. It will be a good while before she's contibuting a meaningfull amount to the family budget (maybe one and a half to two years).

Recently there was the thread about the cost of dentistry for your new wife, I had the added cost of the optician, there's pocket money, fares, inreased council taxes, driving lessons (if you don't want the stress yourself), your lady will most likely require a new wardrobe (as she has come from an impoverished country), and all that stuff that ladies must have that your bachelor pad is currently not equipped with, the cost of a second car (when your lady learns to drive), and the running costs of that car, sattelite dish and equipment for russian tv, (married guys? have I forgotton anything?). LOL almost forgot! you'll have to feed her too!

While she's studying and perfecting her English and working at her menial low paid part-time job, she may want to send some money home to her relatives (in their impoverished country), she may want to travel back sometime.

I'll leave you to do the math, and if you bring one that has any children, don't leave them out of the equation or the fact that her having children to care for will have on her job prospects and earning potential.

... in response to Hidden costs, posted by Pordzhik on Nov 19, 2002

Pordzhik, you are right of course but you'll be stuck with many similair things marrying an AW.  Marriage is not designed to make economic sense - it's God's punishment to man for being so rotten (or not putting the toilet seat down.)  BUT, it's a good deal for women and it's a good deal for God (it's like he's got an endless supply of assistant naggers.) --- & 2 out of 3 ain't bad!   ;)
Bob

... in response to Re: Hidden costs, posted by robobond on Nov 19, 2002

sdf

... in response to Re: Is everybody going for the trophy wi..., posted by petem on Nov 18, 2002

The RW are the epitome of self centeredness.  Even the guys here who are married to RW and love their RW will tell you that.  Remember the tee shirt with "It's All About Me."

Note, I am not putting down on RW.  The have many good features and qualities.

But with RW, especially the younger ones, you had better believe it is 'All about them.'

JR

... in response to Self Centered, posted by juio99 on Nov 18, 2002

I am amused by these generalizations about RW.  In my experience human beings are as unique as snowflakes, no two are alike.

... in response to Self Centered, posted by juio99 on Nov 18, 2002

It was not I who first brought up this idea of 'self centered' nor was it first broached by the original poster in this thread.  I do not have the references, but I know that by reading through the archives I encountered several instances where married guys and guys close to being married mentioned this fact about their RW.

I am not saying it was stated in a derogatory manner, but even in a joking manner, they clearly stated, with respect to their relationship, that the RW let it be known by her actions that 'it is all about me' or some such.

JR

... in response to Self Centered, posted by juio99 on Nov 18, 2002

Sure, there are times and things in which the self-centered aspect appears.  Of course, as well as the stunning outfits, we also have a dramatically improved home interior and gardens that come from this same trait.  

The problem, IMO, of calling this "self-centered" is that it misses the tremendous amount of effort (at least my) RW is willing to put forth to get what she wants.  We didn't have a painter, we didn't pay to get curtains and bed spreads, we didn't pay anyone to put up wallpaper.

Also, keep in mind that there will be times (if you are fortunate with your choice) in which the level of attention given to making you feel special and important is truly amazing.  Combine the two, and you get "treating yourselves well", which is part of the point of being together in the first place.

... in response to Self Centered, posted by juio99 on Nov 18, 2002

JR,
I have to disagree with you.  Being "self centered" would imply that the woman would put her self before others.  If my wife is any kind of example, she would blow your theory to shreds.  As a matter of fact, her "humbleness" is one of her major attractions for me.  Being young, beautiful and intellingent, she has all rights to be aloof and is not.  This is not to say she doesn't realize who and what she is though.  She once told me after I complimented her beauty, "Yes, I AM beautiful.  So what?  It doesn't make me any BETTER than anyone else.  It is just a quality that I happen to have now and it will disappear in time."  Sorry, but she is wrong, because that kind of inner beauty will never fade with age.
KenC

... in response to not quite, posted by KenC on Nov 18, 2002

My wife has a very "matter of fact" attitude about her own beauty, and humbleness and dignity are words a lot of people search for when commenting on her character.

I'm sometimes asked "how does she compare to English women?" That's when I'm lost for words.

... in response to not quite, posted by KenC on Nov 18, 2002

Ken, does she have a sister?

Nice post.

Bob

... in response to Self Centered, posted by juio99 on Nov 18, 2002

JR, I will respectfully disagree with your statement "But with RW, especially the younger ones, you had better believe it is 'All about them."

Although there are exceptions with everything, everyone and every region of the FSU, to say this about RW on the whole, including the young one's, is just not true.  Sure there are going to be many young (and older) ladies from Moscow, St. Pete and Kiev who may feel this way, but there are many more Russian women (old and young) who are 100% opposite of what you are stating.

... in response to Is everybody going for the trophy wife?, posted by BubbaGump on Nov 18, 2002

lol...

... in response to Re: Real men don't line dance , posted by wsbill on Nov 18, 2002

n/t

... in response to Is everybody going for the trophy wife?, posted by BubbaGump on Nov 18, 2002

If 10 years ago you were dating extremely attractive women here, you will likely be able to do so there, unless of course you have perhaps changed drastically like gaining 150 pounds etc..  If you were good at dating here you will do fine there.
My experience was that many (not all) of the "super model" types there were just as demanding and self-centered as the ones I ever met here.. To find one who is not will take some searching and a little luck, (which seems to flow pretty freely there)..  ;-)
Just my experience, others mileage may vary..

... in response to Re: Is everybody going for the trophy wi..., posted by Oscar on Nov 18, 2002

n/t

... in response to Is everybody going for the trophy wife?, posted by BubbaGump on Nov 18, 2002

Not me, Bubba. I just want a nice girl in her mid to late twenties. I found and was badly burned by a supermodel type a year ago. Now I'm hooked up with a very dear, sweet lady. She's cute and well built but not a head turner. That's fine with me because it's the heart I'm looking for. Actually my current girl is sort of an anomaly for a Russkaya. She's not obsessed with appearances and wears comfortable clothes. She does dress up very nicely for dinners out but prefers jeans, running shoes and nice sweaters to mini skirts, high heels and see-through blouses. She suits me well because I'm not a suit and tie kind of guy.

... in response to Re: Is everybody going for the trophy wi..., posted by Zink on Nov 18, 2002

That's great Zink, you sound very happy.

... in response to Fiance here two weeks report, posted by Ramblin on Nov 18, 2002

Ramblin,
Get used to the clingy concept.  It is understandable because you ARE her lifeline there.  If your girl is anything like my wife, you better also get used to the emotional and jealous side of her.  Of course the flip side is that they KNOW how to take care of their man.  Best of luck to the two of you.
KenC