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Title: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a...
Post by: Stevo on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
younger, beautiful woman!

Just a short report on my recent 3-day trip to Las Vegas (first for me).  I stayed at The Venetian, as recommended by some on this board.  It was superb...thanks to all who made recommendations!  We visited several other hotels, like The Bellagio, Luxor, NYNY, etc., but we really didn't find any that matched The Venetian.  My wife absolutely loved the place.  If you've been to LV a few times and don't care to see anything of The Strip, then the Venetian is great because you really don't need to ever leave the place...great shops, fabulous restaurants, great architecture, wonderful scenery around the canal, and a virtually a smoke-free casino environment, no doubt due to the very high ceilings in the casino.  Highly recommended place to stay...but NOT cheap, that's for sure!

My wife was surprised at the very small number of people dressing up in the casinos and restaurants, but it was still much better than what we experienced at the Foxwoods casino in Connecticut, where it was truly a slob environment.  Of course, in some of the other hotel casinos that were lower class like Harrah's, the dress got progressively worse.  At least at The Venetian my wife didn't feel out of place when she dressed to kill.

One of the downsides of marrying a younger, beautiful woman is that you can get pretty tired of everyone staring at her (no exageration, I didn't see anyone who looked better than my wife the entire time we were there...so much for the LV hype about beautiful women), and then staring at YOU for being so much older.  You know what people are thinking...you've either got a LOT of money, or you've got a BIG you know what!  Let's face it, you don't mind a few stares on occasion, but when it is non-stop for 3 days, you start to get a little uneasy. One example was a comment made by a group of 3 young girls as we passed by...."Look, another Anna Nicole Smith!"  My wife thought it was funny, but I didn't appreciate the implication at all.  Like I said, after a while it gets to you and you start to feel self-conscious about taking a stroll with your wife (at least I did).

So, the message here is that if you go out and marry a much younger woman, be prepared for the consequences.  And you'd better not be the jealous type, or you'll find yoursself in more arguments than you are prepared to handle.



Title: Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a...
Post by: Nico on November 14, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

Stevo what is your age difference if I may ask? By the way if given the choice I would definitely want to be in your shoes on the recieving end of those stares rather than the person staring and wishing he was in your shoes. You go man !

                     Nico



Title: 21 years difference...n/t
Post by: Stevo on November 14, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marryi..., posted by Nico on Nov 14, 2002

ggg


Title: I have to chuckle at KenC and Mender
Post by: thesearch on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

Complementing on your good taste in women!!!

No way LOL, I mean does it take good taste to appreciate a beautiful woman? I do not think so. Men who do not have any taste in anything at all will appreciate a beautiful woman. This is no complement to your good taste IMHO. :)

The complement in the final analysis is to your woman and no one else  ---- relative to YOU -- If there is a complement it is that YOU are with her and not them. Also their complement inadvertently is enshrouded with a question. What are they thinking?  --- it is something like this = I wonder what he has, what he is about, that this gorgeous woman is with him. In other words: A questioning admiration for the situation that they see you in.

Hey, I am not taking anything away from either of you. I am not saying that you do not deserve your lady. So, please do not misinterpret me. I would like to be in your situation.



Title: the real chuckle is
Post by: KenC on November 13, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to I have to chuckle at KenC and Mender, posted by thesearch on Nov 12, 2002

Greg,
You are right in that the stares are a compliment to our wives beauty but the ENVY they have is all for us guys that have such beautiful wives.  They, like you, would like to walk a mile in our shoes.  He!!, maybe even just a block or two.
KenC


Title: This week's New Yorker (11/11/02)
Post by: Scaught on November 13, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to the real chuckle is, posted by KenC on Nov 13, 2002

One of the cartoons features a nice-looking young couple at at party. He's been staring at another woman across the room for some time. The babe on his arm finally says, "When you're finished not looking at her, can you divert your non-attention to me?"


Title: for sure n/t
Post by: thesearch on November 13, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to the real chuckle is, posted by KenC on Nov 13, 2002

sdf


Title: Re: I have to chuckle at KenC and Mender
Post by: mender on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to I have to chuckle at KenC and Mender, posted by thesearch on Nov 12, 2002

Then maybe these situations confirms the song ; If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, have a ugly woman marry you :-)


Title: Re: I have to chuckle at KenC and Mender
Post by: Quasimoto on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to I have to chuckle at KenC and Mender, posted by thesearch on Nov 12, 2002

I agree, and disagree. I think the majority of men that I know think that Pamela Anderson is a hot babe! Not me. She doesn't excite me, or turn me on in the least. I'm not kidding. You talk about your basic silicon bag bimbo, and she is the definition. Nothing to look at, or desire! Show me a real woman.......please!

Steve



Title: Here here........... Spot On 100% n/t
Post by: JohnL on November 14, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: I have to chuckle at KenC and Mender, posted by Quasimoto on Nov 12, 2002

n/t


Title: Apples and Oranges
Post by: thesearch on November 13, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: I have to chuckle at KenC and Mender, posted by Quasimoto on Nov 12, 2002

That is a different issue as I see it bleeding into the other so to speak.

What I mean, this one is about preference. For me, Pamela Anderson, because of how I perceive her morals etc whether correct or not, creates a turn off.

However, whether you like Pamela or not, she is going to get a lot more eye attention from men then your typical AW right? So, regardless of you her appearance is appreciated by many men plain and simple.

Now, even though you are not interested in her, I would guess that if you ran into her at the grocery store and she was just ahead of you at the checkout stand, you would not be looking at the headings of the tabloids that are there right in front of you. :))) Now if it was a typical AW, your attention would not be sparked as much. LOL



Title: Yes Steve
Post by: juio99 on November 13, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: I have to chuckle at KenC and Mender, posted by Quasimoto on Nov 12, 2002

I agree about these really big boobs, whether real or manufactured.  They are really a turnoff when the trusses come off.  Give me a firm B cup anytime.


Title: I agree with you Steve--100 %--She is a plastic scank
Post by: mender on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: I have to chuckle at KenC and Mender, posted by Quasimoto on Nov 12, 2002

The last time she was in any way attractive was back when she was found at that ballpark in Canada.


Title: Re: I agree with you Steve--100 %--She is a plastic scank
Post by: Quasimoto on November 13, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to I agree with you Steve--100 %--She is a ..., posted by mender on Nov 12, 2002

Exactly!!!


Title: If we can't marry a beautiful woman half our age . . .
Post by: Griffin on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

then what's a heaven for?


Title: Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a...
Post by: mender on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

I have similar experiences. But I look at it as; the people who are doing all this looking, are just, acknowledging her beauty and my good tastes. I would much rather have this, then having people look away with pity, frightening children, or to the extreme, having them vomiting. Or thanking me, for having the compassion to make a mercy pick, of such a wretchedly looking woman.


Title: Just say No! ( to beating the rush...)
Post by: WmGo on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marryi..., posted by mender on Nov 12, 2002

It doesn't make sense to travel 8000 miles to go ugly does it???........

WmGOjustsayno...:o



Title: So what do you do?
Post by: Scaught on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

This post hit home. I am not that much older than my darling-- we look about the same age-- but yes the staring can get to you. In Europe, while we are walking, guys will even suddenly stop in front of her and block her from walking forward (as in "setting a pick" in basketball) and then give her the eye as she squeezes to get around them. It's so cavemanesque!

Ken C's reply and Bobby Orr's were right on the money. What I'd like to know is when people cross the line, what should I say or do? Ken C-- you mentioned doing something... what do you do/what have you done?



Title: Re: So what do you do?
Post by: KenC on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to So what do you do?, posted by Scaught on Nov 12, 2002

[This message has been edited by KenC]

Scaught,
I don't know how I would handle the situation you describe other than maybe act like a pulling guard an open up a hole for my running back.  LOL.  Like I said in my original post, I really do take the looks/stares as a compliment to my good taste in women.  There have been only a few times that I thought I should do something about it.  
-
On one occasion we were having breakfast with friends in a rather nice place.  A guy ,with his wife and kids, could not stop gawking at Lena all through our meal.  I was sure he was going to get busted by his wife as he was not cool about it at all.  She either didn't catch him or choose to ignore his obvious actions.  His stares were to a point that he made not only Lena uncomfortable but our friend's 12 year old son.  The boy thought the man was staring at him as he sat next to Lena.  After finishing a very uncomfortable meal, our party was leaving the restaurant, the guy continued the stares, but now with mouth opened.  As we reached the exit, I turned and walked back to his table and said "You stared at my wife through our entire meal here.  I know she is a beautiful woman and it is difficult not to stare, but you really should have more class than that.  We have to leave now, so I wanted to know if you would like a photo of her that I keep in my wallet."  As I pulled out my wallet, he shook his head "no".  I turned and left.  Boy, would I have liked to hear the rest of his dinner conversation with his wife.
KenC


Title: Re: Re: So what do you do?
Post by: Scaught on November 13, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: So what do you do?, posted by KenC on Nov 12, 2002

Thanks for sharing that incident. I think you handled it very well. Staring agape is definitely no-class. I bet he got in real trouble with his wife. And the kids must have wondered what kind of guy their father is. It was clever to play the wife angle against him.

You know, I thought back to some of the stunning women I have seen in my life in airports and wherever. I stared at them. I tried not to be obvious and I looked away at times, but I could hardly take my eyes off these girls. They were breathtaking. I still remember a few, even after more than 15 years.

Imagine that you didn't know you wife and you happened to see her in the supermarket. You'd stare, wouldn't you?

I agree that there is a line between class and no-class. I do wish that I didn't have to think about "the next time" everytime we go out, but if I were the other guy, I'd know I'd do the same, but with discretion. And we shouldn't freak out over it.



Title: well Ken is a big guy
Post by: Stan B on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to So what do you do?, posted by Scaught on Nov 12, 2002

and I surely wouldn't f___w/ him!!!


Title: tell me about it
Post by: KenC on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

Stevo,
Bobby Orr hit the nail on the head below when he said you have to have the confidence to pull off a big age dif.  Either you have confidence that you DESERVE to have the youg beauty as your wife or you will go crazy with your insecurities.  I have no problems with guys checking my wife out and I also have no problem putting a few in their place for stepping across the line of good manners.  I have seen guys getting hit by their wives/girlfriends for looking at Lena.  There was one guy that knocked over an endcap display of product in a grocery store.  He REALLY caught he!! from his wife!  The guys almost want to give a sign that you did good, but it is the women that give the dirty looks.
-
We like the Venetian the best too.  (I know I recommended it to you at one time)  There is also a great resaurant in Paris Casino that we love.  The wedding packages available in LV are great too.  We found a neat little chaple for ours, but the hotel packages are good too.
KenC


Title: I'm crying crocodile tears for you ;-(
Post by: BubbaGump on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

What was the problem again?

I thought you weren't going to get her a giant pair of hooters for Christmas!



Title: Re: Send me a photo of you and your wife
Post by: wsbill on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

I want to see what all the commontion is all about.

wsbill@nospam.com



Title: Wsbill is your web site still up ?
Post by: mender on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Send me a photo of you and your wife, posted by wsbill on Nov 11, 2002

And what is the address if so ?


Title: Re: Wsbill is your web site still up ?
Post by: wsbill on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Wsbill is your web site still up ?, posted by mender on Nov 12, 2002

http://www.geocities.com/eewife



Title: I may just do that, but the experience of others makes me...
Post by: Stevo on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Send me a photo of you and your wife, posted by wsbill on Nov 11, 2002

cautious.  I don't need sarcastic comments from board members who have shown their mean-spirited side in the past.  But I still may send one just for the hell of it.


Title: Re: Thanks for the picture...
Post by: wsbill on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to I may just do that, but the experience o..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

I thought Grand Pa Jones from He-Haw was dead...glad to see your still alive and kickin...

Is that your grand daughter...  ha ha.



Title: Copy me on that
Post by: BubbaGump on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to I may just do that, but the experience o..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

You got my curiosity up.


Title: Re: Copy me on that
Post by: robobond on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Copy me on that , posted by BubbaGump on Nov 11, 2002

"curiosity"... now that's a strange name.... once knew a guy who called his "serendipity"..... but that's another thread.....


Title: Re: Re: Copy me on that
Post by: Jski on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Copy me on that , posted by robobond on Nov 12, 2002

LOL


Title: It probably wasn't a good idea...
Post by: Stevo on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

that my wife wore a red T-shirt to breakfast upon which was written: "It's all about ME"!  That also drew a few comments...mostly from guys who thought it was pretty cool.  I'm sure a few women thought my wife was letting the proverbial cat out of the bag!


Title: Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a...
Post by: Oscar on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

Sounds like a great trip!  We will quite possibly be marrying in Vegas and I have been trying to decide where to stay..  I love the Venitian but is is SO expensive there, as you say.  I think it is even more expensive than Bellagio..  I love Mandalay Bay but their main pools are just closing and will be closed till March! (I love to swim!).

You are 50 Stevo, how old is your wife??  Don;t worry about the stares-  The men are just thinking "wow, I wish I had one of those" and the women they are with are knowing that is what HE is thinking so they hate it and bash it! LOL!

How about posting some pics from your trip??



Title: Actually, I would have stayed at the Bellagio if...
Post by: Stevo on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marryi..., posted by Oscar on Nov 11, 2002

the rates were competitive with the Venetian, but they weren't.  Plus the rooms at the Venetian are huge with a step down living room, a canopied headboard, double sink all marble bathroom with a glassed-in shower separate from the bath, a separate toilet, twin TVs, etc.  BTW, I saw several wedding couples having their photos taken on the covered canal bridge and taking gondola rides...looked pretty romantic to me.

Well, I'm now 51 and my sweetushki is 30.



Title: Sweetushki ?
Post by: thesearch on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Actually, I would have stayed at the Bel..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

:)


Title: You should just smile and say...
Post by: Jeff S on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

.. "well, she didn't marry me for my money."

-- Jeff



Title: Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a...
Post by: robobond on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

What most of you don't know is that Stevo is 81 yrs. old.  Although he is a nice guy and young at heart, he DOES present quite a sight when his 19 yr. old wife in her strapless black cocktail dress and 5" high heels pushes him across the casino floor in his wheelchair - what with all those oxygen tanks, IV bags dripping, etc...........

;]

Bob



Title: Actually, IV bags aren't necessary...I'm not that old yet! n/t
Post by: Stevo on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marryi..., posted by robobond on Nov 11, 2002

n/t


Title: BSEG!
Post by: robobond on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Actually, IV bags aren't necessary...I'm..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

(big s___ eatin' grin)!

:)



Title: Re: Actually, I kinda like IV's, especially when it contains morphine.
Post by: Richard on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Actually, IV bags aren't necessary...I'm..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

Too bad it still hurt even after the morphine.


Title: Re: Steveo are you really Larry Flint ? n/t
Post by: wsbill on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Actually, IV bags aren't necessary...I'm..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

LOL, busted.


Title: Yes I am. Good catch!...n/t
Post by: Stevo on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re:  Steveo are you really Larry Flint ?..., posted by wsbill on Nov 11, 2002

ggg


Title: Re: Its the "other" bags I never want to be old enough for :-P n/t
Post by: Jski on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Actually, IV bags aren't necessary...I'm..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

..


Title: Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a...
Post by: valuedcustomer on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

You are politically incorrect and a threat to society.  The women feel threatened because they see a prettier alternative to their monopoly and the men become aware of what they settled for.  If they can find a good explanation to put you down it will make them feel better.



Title: Well worded, direct, simple, concise, accurate n/t
Post by: thesearch on November 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marryi..., posted by valuedcustomer on Nov 11, 2002

as


Title: You have to have confidence.
Post by: Bobby Orr on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

I am glad you have the confidence in your relationship not to worry about the stares etc. towards you and your girl. It really comes down to the girl.  She will have alot of offers from guys and you can not watch her 24 / 7.  If she loves you there is nothing to worry about.  The problem is that it is always in the back of many guys minds.  All you can do is have as good a relationship as you can and I am sure things will work out for most guys.  Thanks for the reminder Steve.


Title: Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a...
Post by: mudd on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002


Pardon my language, but SCREW THEM. It’s not their life and they are not the ones in love, so who cares. Of course, when a musician or a movie star marries a younger girl (or man) it’s no big deal and it’s accepted, but when the average man does it, you are assumed to be a cradle robber or child molester. i also think, like you said, that it would get old, really fast, with everyone staring at you both. thanks for the info, something to think about!!!!!



Title: Re: Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a...
Post by: AndrewinOH on November 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Trip Report, or the Problem w/Marrying a..., posted by Stevo on Nov 11, 2002

What is the age difference of you don't mind me asking?