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I just checked your profile since I didn't recognize your moniker.  You say you have been searching since January 2002 and "will meet" the woman you are corresponding with in August. It's past August: would you consider posting some sort of trip report?

I agree with you about the infighting here lately and would like to see something else posted.  Would you be able to help out?

... in response to Yo, TomTx!, posted by Alfred on Oct 22, 2002

Alfred, thanks for asking. Yes my trip was great met a wonderful woman that I was corresponding with for 7 months and we hit it off great, going back this November. The only advise that I could add, is keep a open mind, and eyes open, and be honest you your lady, talk to her about everything. Being "MAN" is important, but if you know how to ask questions, and carry on a conversation and be honest 110% a person can find gold anywhere. I never really searched for RW/UW I found my lady based on some
?itch trying to scam me, and this lead me to other things, and I ran into my lady purely by accident.
I am not going to post a report on every detail of my Ukraine trip, but I will say, I am one lucky man, and she is one lucky woman. I am not going to have other depict my report, and come up with there own conclusions on what is right or wrong. If I make a mistake, then its my fault. No big deal, live and learn. I don't need others to tell me what is right or wrong, I am smart enough to figure this out, and my mother taught me how to play in the sand box.
I just wish others could play and quite slamming others, it worthless BS, and non-productive.

Tom

... in response to Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by TomTx on Oct 22, 2002

n/t

... in response to Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by TomTx on Oct 22, 2002

Tom ,
Congratulations on your engagement ; and I hope you have another enjoyable trip in November . FWIW , I agree with Zink - a trip report might be just what's needed right now...but also understand if or why you might not want to . Congrats again, and
Best Wishes
Don

... in response to Re: Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by don1 on Oct 22, 2002

Thanks Don, I would post more, but there is really not much more to post. We did a lot of talking and soul searching within each other and talking about everything, so most of what’s left to talk about is really personal to her and I. Thanks again, I would have posted when I got back in Aug. but I was seeing a bad trend of people getting bashed for living life there way.

Later
Tom

... in response to Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by TomTx on Oct 22, 2002

You won't post anything about your trip! Now that is exactly what is going wrong here now. People don't want to tell their experiences because of the overzealous attacking. It's sad really. We're all different and we're all going to do things differently. Maybe if people could quit the arguing and name calling we could learn something from those differences.

There's too many people who won't post trip reports now(I'm guilty of it myself) and a lot of readers who'll ask questions off board that don't want to post them. They're scared of being ridiculed by our local attack weenies. Æàëêî, æàëêî.

... in response to Re: Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by Zink on Oct 22, 2002

Zink, I would love to post my report, but you are right, I am not going to let the overzealous weenies have there way at my good fortune. I got damn lucky by meeting and writing one woman only, not all will be as lucky as I was. I actually feel special, I like traveling, but not that much, and I am not a rich guy. I just got lucky, what can I say.
I agree I wish people did post more, if only the know it alls would post something positive; this would make it a much better board and help the new people.

I will post a little of what I did on my trip. I met a lady from Sumy Ukraine via a friend I did some web work for, I was not searching, we starting writing each other in Feb of this year, I wrote her once a week, and called twice a week for 7 months, we decided to met in Kiev in Aug. Her mom and dad live in Belarus, so I could not meet them at the same time. Her mom took a train to Kiev to meet me and she stayed with us in the same flat for 8 days, great lady!.
Kiev was great; I am from TX so the heat was great it really was not that bad. This was my first trip abroad so it was exciting. When I got off the plane she met me, and everything was great, we had sparks before I even arrived, so meeting was the formal part. Her English was not good in Feb, but by Aug. it was great, we did not have any problems, we talk and walked for hours everyday. We talked about everything, and this is advice I would give to anybody, talk you head off, ask important questions, be your self and enjoy the company. Customs in Kiev was not an issue, so new folks going, just have you paper work in order. I had a laptop and two cameras and did not claim anything but my money. Matter of fact I left the laptop for my lady so we could communicate more, best decision I ever made, has saved me thousands of dollars. I am 40 my lady is 28, she has a son that is 8, I have a son that is 8, they communicate more that my lady and I do. I new everything about my lady before I went, I asked some of the same questions again, I was honest with her from the first letter, she never asked for money, and gives me grief if I try to take her to any restaurant, we cooked for each other, and have many very romantic evenings cooking, and play backgammon and just talking about our desires and goals. I was there from Aug 1st until Aug 20th, Her son went with her mom back to Sumy so we could have alone time, and this was great, she would sleep in late and I would make her breakfast, then she would do the same for me. While her son was there he was great, There was a few days that I would take him to the park just him and I, and would walk around Kiev, so I new my lady trusted me. She was with her mom do the woman thing. As far as the ladies in Kiev I really did not notice that much, I did see many very attractive ladies, and some not so attractive. They always dressed nice, which was a welcome change.
I don’t have a lot to share on my experience in Kiev, because I was there to get to know this person that like me, and me liking her. I did ask her to marry me, after a couple weeks, but we did with the stipulation that would use the 90 days to see how well we live together, and how our kids will adjust. So today we communicate everyday, and I call her still twice a week, I am going back in November for 12days, and I am so ready. I will say this, when you have found that person you really like, it is very heard to be apart. I got my 1st NOA from TSC Sept. 26, I sent the information Sept 20th, so I am waiting for the approval. I have researched every step afterwards, and I have all my ducks in a row. So this would be the second advice I would give, research and make good notes, and 3rd follow your heart and enjoy.
Me I have been divorced for 6 years, my little boys has been with me since he was 2 1/2yo, he is know 8 and get straight A’s in school, if you have a child and you take care of him/her by yourself, most ladies in the FSU will think you are a piece of GOLD, not like hear in the US. This has always fascinated me about AW, they want you to be a dad to there kids but if you’re a single dad, they turn there nose at you. I consider myself fairly good looking, I can see my toes not like most 50yo guys, I train horse in my spare time and sail, and I work for HP as a server storage engineer, my lady models dresses part time, and will not work for anyone. Some of the things you have read about bosses its true. Trade work for sex, happens all the time in FSU.
Leaving Ukraine was not a problem, I had my paper work in order, and I breezed through. I did take the VIP service when I arrived, but I did not need to, I was thinking this would make life easier, when I go back in November, I will not use the VIP.
So that’s it really, not to much. I was honest with my lady by talking to her all the time, she told me everything about her ex-husband, and things that she expected when she arrives and things that I expected, which was real simple, just be yourself. So I was not hiding anything, when she gets here, she will see the same guy, this was the easy part, the hard part is all the waiting. I am on day 24 since I got my 1st NOA. If anybody has specific question leave your e-mail I will answer.

TOM

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by TomTx on Oct 22, 2002

Tom,

Good post!  1st time I've heard mention of anyone spending 1 on 1 time with a lady's kid & I don't know why because it makes total sense.

Bob

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by TomTx on Oct 22, 2002

Thanks for sharing your experience Tom.  I can definitely relate to the waiting part.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by TomTx on Oct 22, 2002

Thanks , Tom !

Thanks for taking the time to do this , and thanks for sharing it with all . I know that I ( and a lot of other people here ) really appreciated that .
Best of luck to you and Best Wishes to you and yours ,
Don

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by TomTx on Oct 22, 2002

Thanks for the report,Tom.  I wish you well!

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by TomTx on Oct 22, 2002

Nice to hear some (positive) emotion for a change.

... in response to Good report, posted by Patrick on Oct 22, 2002

Thanks Patrick, I have to admit, I was sucked up today into some negative minds, and thinking. And I was doing so good. Hey we all have bad days.

Tom

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by TomTx on Oct 22, 2002

It was nice of you to share with us. Good luck to you in the future.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Yo, TomTx!, posted by TomTx on Oct 22, 2002

Great post Tom!  SOunds like you found a great lady.  Good luck to both of you and here's hope for a speedy K-1!

John