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Title: Anastasiaweb Post by: AndrewinOH on October 23, 2002, 04:00:00 AM Anyone out there familiar with this web site? I posted my ad 24 hours ago and I have already received 85 responses from Eastern European women ranging from 18-37. However, with so many girls sending me intro emails so quickly, I am concerned that this may just be a site that is randomly sending me these profiles. Why do I not open the emails and see what they say you ask? Well, everytime I do that it is going to cost me $8. Has anyone else had a similar experience with this site, and are they genuine? I would appreciate any information before I spend quiet a bit of money.
Title: Re: Anastasiaweb Post by: thesearch on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Anastasiaweb, posted by AndrewinOH on Oct 23, 2002
Clever way to extract money quickly without any proof of validity for you. Very clever. I have to take my hands off to them. Stay away. Title: Anastasiaweb is a SCAM! Stay away. Post by: johnnydudeman on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Anastasiaweb, posted by AndrewinOH on Oct 23, 2002
Anastasiaweb is a FRAUD and a RIP-OFF...stay away. I used this service briefly and found that Anastasiaweb solicits profiles and pictures from various agencies in the FSU. So, often, when you write to a girl, you are really sending your $8 email to an agency, which will send you an $8 form response. The agencies have an agreement with Anastasiaweb.com that they receive a cut of the cash they bring in, so they have a financial interest in sending and receiving emails indefinitely and stringing along suckers (like me) with form emails. I actually received a letter from a girl I personally met in Kherson last February. I paid the $8 to read it because I recognized her and thought she was sending me a personal message. Instead, it was just a form email as if written to a total stranger that she wanted to meet. I paid $8 to read the email and paid $8 to send an email back (because that's just the way their rip-off system works) telling her I was they guy who took her to dinner at a not so inexpensive restaurant in Kherson. Then, guess what? "She" (really the agency) wrote back telling me she was so happy to receive an email from a man such as me and that she hopes one day we can meet in person (again, I paid $8 just to read this bogus form letter). So, I called her on her mobile phone in Kherson and asked her what's going on, and she said she did not even know her "agency" was doing this on her behalf. So, it was definitely a scam. I have more examples of how I was scammed by this agency. AND they have other girls on their site who told me they are already engaged. Again, after paying $8 to send the email and $8 to receive the message just to find out she is already engaged and not available and not at all interested in meeting anyone else. Anastasiaweb is a scam and should be added to this board's scam list. Title: What is the URL for this site? Post by: Patrick on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM Title: Re: What is the URL for this site? Post by: AndrewinOH on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to What is the URL for this site?, posted by Patrick on Oct 24, 2002
www.anastasisweb.com Title: Re: Re: What is the URL for this site? Post by: robobond on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: What is the URL for this site?, posted by AndrewinOH on Oct 24, 2002
try, "www.anastasiaweb.com/" Title: Re: Re: Re: What is the URL for this site? Post by: robobond on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: What is the URL for this site?, posted by robobond on Oct 24, 2002
oops, make that "http://www.anastasisweb.com/" Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the URL for this site? Post by: robobond on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: What is the URL for this sit..., posted by robobond on Oct 24, 2002
oops again! initial access to t6he site is : http://www.russianbrides.com/ Once there, it shows as: http://www.anastasisweb.com/ Title: Re: Anastasiaweb is a SCAM! Stay away. Post by: AndrewinOH on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Anastasiaweb is a SCAM! Stay away., posted by johnnydudeman on Oct 24, 2002
Well, here I am, 48 hours after my post on the above web site....now I have 112 beautiful women to choose from!! Either I must be a real catch or this really is a scam. Funny enough, I am now seeing several pictures of women from many other sites pop up. Even without any experience I would definately have to say this is a scam. Thanks for all your advice. Title: Re: Re: Anastasiaweb is a SCAM! Stay away. Post by: Zink on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Anastasiaweb is a SCAM! Stay away., posted by AndrewinOH on Oct 24, 2002
Seeing ladies from other web sites doesn't neccesarily indicate a scam. But from what others have said it sounds like a bad place to look. Absolute is another good site if you want an "educating". There are good ladies at absolute but there are also a lot of bad ones, agencies, etc. If you'd like some info about the most common scams and just basic things about RWs, e-mail me. I'll send you some links and articles that'll help. Title: Re: Anastasiaweb Post by: MarkInTx on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Anastasiaweb, posted by AndrewinOH on Oct 23, 2002
Hey Andrew, The fact is that most women who will respond so quickly to a new ad are usually scammers. Doesn't mean that all of them are. But it does pay to be suspicious. Frankly, I think its a good idea to write to a few of them anyway as long as you don't have to pay for the privilege!) It's a good education. Just remember the cardinal rule is always: NEVER give money to ANYONE you haven't met. EVER. Other than that... there is no blanket advice for the best way of doing this (though many will give you their opinions, certainly.) There are many options. There are many good agencies that can help you out, and it is also quite possible to handle this by yourself. The good news is that trips to certain areas are MUCH easier now than they were even two years ago. I don't believe that you need an agency as much these days as you used to. When I made my first trip to St. Pb things were a lot more difficult than it is today, for example. And Ukraine seems to continue to get easier to get into. I would say "Tell us about yourself" but that might not be the best thing to do any more around here. Zink, a long time poster, has a thing he put together for newbies. If you drop him a line, he can send you a list of a lot of valuable resources. You're also welcome to drop me a line, and I can give you a (smaller) list of agencies I have dealt with, and believe are honorable, as well as websites and contacts you can use if you just want to do it yourself. If you ask for general help from the board, you'll probably just hear "Contact Jack" or "Call Firstdream." A lot of guys seem hung up on that one agency -- even though some of the guys who will recommend it to you have never used it themselves. There's nothing wrong with Firstdream, per se... It's not a scam agency. I've even used it in the past. It's just that there ARE other options, in case you are interested. Also, when you sign on with Firstdream, you sign on to a certain methodology ... and while there is nothing inherently wrong with that either, it is not for everyone. You need to do what you feel comfortable with. If you read the archives, you'll probably get a good sense of what is up, and who is who... Good luck! Title: Re: Anastasiaweb Post by: BarryM on October 23, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Anastasiaweb, posted by AndrewinOH on Oct 23, 2002
How would feel if you opened a few of them and they were not from the girls but from another agency altogether? I would cancel my ad on that site and move on. You should look into personal newspaper ads in target areas of interest. It sounds like you've become scammer bait with your ad... sorry to say. -blm Title: Re: Re: Anastasiaweb Post by: AndrewinOH on October 23, 2002, 04:00:00 AM Title: Contact this office and complain Post by: fishtiger on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Anastasiaweb, posted by AndrewinOH on Oct 23, 2002
Andrew I e-mailed the webmaster of Anastasiaweb and got nothing but excuses and minimizing. She is truly a gatekeeper not intersted at all in changing anything because they are making money off all the newbies unaware they are being scammed. It appeals to your ego when you get hundreds of responses. Contact the state of Maine attorney generals office and give them all the info they need. Good luck and pass this address info to all. I am afraid AFA may be trying the same thing, but I'm not sure. fishtiger http://www.maine.gov/ag/contactus.html
Title: Re: Contact this office and complain Post by: AndrewinOH on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Contact this office and complain, posted by fishtiger on Oct 24, 2002
I sent a letter of complaint to the office. If I hear back I will advise Title: Andrew Re: Re: Contact this office and complain Post by: fishtiger on November 01, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Contact this office and complain, posted by AndrewinOH on Oct 24, 2002
I contacted e-mailed the attorney general office also. we all need to keep the pressure on these unethical agencies. fishtiger Title: Followup: Listen to Johnnydudeman on Anastasiaweb... don't use it! /nt Post by: BarryM on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM Title: If you can see the bio data first... Post by: BarryM on October 23, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Anastasiaweb, posted by AndrewinOH on Oct 23, 2002
as well as a picture, then maybe try a few. I personally think that service is for neophytes who haven't the experience. If you're going to use a subscription service, I would use one that gives you unlimited addresses. The problem there is that as much as 85% of them are scammers. What you need to do is first decide what type of girl are you looking for. For example, most of the women you see on the internet are big city gals who are accustomed to a higher lifestyle and social situation. Then you have more rural gals who are a bit more humble in social stature but still very savvy. Then you need to research your target areas. The best thing to do is to focus on cities or regions where there is a high availability of girls but not a large amount of AM traffic. Going off the beaten path such as Siberia may be better than going to Moscow or Kiev. From what I understand, Siberia is still a pretty fertile ground, but it may play out in a couple of years. Southern Russia still has some pretty good hunting grounds, but I've heard Tver is pretty much fished out and Sochi is getting depleted. Nizhny-Novgorod may be a good untapped city for good women but you'll have to deal with very corrupt police and high crime. There are still a lot of areas in Ukraine that are prime hunting grounds also. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, and Kyrgistan are also potential fertile hunting grounds for good quality women. The type of woman you're looking for from a regional standpoint and from a personality standpoint determines your newspaper ad campaign. Then you have to develop good ad copy will focus on the girl you're interested in meeting. I would keep the age range for the girls from age 23 to 31 since you are 36. You should have no problem finding a good girl under the age of 27 that will be plenty compatible for you. You may want to have narrow criteria in order to keep the volume of mail down. It's expensive answering all of those letters also. You conduct your email campaign 3 - 6 months before you are prepared to travel to Russian or Ukraine and you do as much screening as possible. It's kind of tough to meet 40 girls on a ten day trip. Some guys can do twenty in that time. It depends on your preference. There is a lot more, but that's a rough outline to give you an idea. Jack is the one to talk to about email campaigns in better detail. -blm Title: Re: If you can see the bio data first... Post by: William on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to If you can see the bio data first..., posted by BarryM on Oct 23, 2002
For a less 'citified' type of woman, consider the city of Yoshkar-Ola; a bit off the beaten path, so to speak, but friendly and prices for most everything is a bit less as well. My 2¢ Title: Re: Re: If you can see the bio data first... Post by: robobond on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: If you can see the bio data first..., posted by William on Oct 24, 2002
follow this link before you go too far... http://www.russian-detective.com/tv.htm Title: Re: Re: Re: If you can see the bio data first... Post by: robobond on October 24, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: If you can see the bio data firs..., posted by robobond on Oct 24, 2002
here's more: "Russian Brides Cyber Guide Black List - page 3: INDIVIDUALS Recently one of the women whose data were used by scammers was arrested, and the scam group is currently under prosecution." |