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Nicely-done article about the changes in Kyiv. It really is a beautiful (and emerging) European city.

Enjoy -- http://www.cnn.com/2002/TRAVEL/DESTINATIONS/10/16/letter.from.kiev.ap/index.html

- Dan

... in response to Another "Rosy" View of Kyiv (f..., posted by Dan on Oct 16, 2002

thanks for the neat link dan.

... in response to Another "Rosy" View of Kyiv (f..., posted by Dan on Oct 16, 2002

Perhaps... a bit rosy picture... but from my short stay in Kiev(4days) before I left for my trip further to the south...  I found Kiev to be very lovely, on par with several other cities in Europe... in my subjective view it ranks up there with stockholm and london... actually maybe better then London... but only my opinion...
Perhaps I went there not expecting alot and was very pleasantly surprised... for a visitor who has never been to this part of the world.. it is an exotic delight.. the churches, the architecture...  for you newbies enjoy!!!
Keith

... in response to Re: Another "Rosy" View of Kyi..., posted by keithandkatya on Oct 17, 2002

I think it depends...

What do you look for in a city?

If you are looking for things like Broadway shows, or movies, or interesting street life... then Kiev is a bad place to go.

But, if you like a city with a soul... then I think Kiev is great. It has architecturally interesting buildings... It is geograhically interesting, and it offers an amazing exchange rate that makes everything accessible.

The food there is excellent and the prices better than I have seen in almost any other major city I have ever visited

If you like nightlife such as discos, and lounges, I think you are in luck, also. And if you prefer your theater more classical, there is usually good opera, ballet or orchestras to be found.

So... I agree with you, I was pleasantly surprised with Kiev.

I thought it was MUCH better than --say-- Sao Paulo, Brazil... which is a sprawiling city with no soul at all... just endless boring cement and steel.

The best part of Kiev was that I could live like a king there, and not break the bank.

Like the one guy told me: "The only problem with Kiev is that it is surrounded by Ukraine."

If this city were anywhere west of Germany, people would be flocking there... IMHO

... in response to Re: Another "Rosy" View of Kyi..., posted by keithandkatya on Oct 17, 2002

Kiev is ok, nothing to really rave about.  From what I saw it was just a old city on a hill... yawn.

And like someone else posted, their are not alot of women walking around is sexy dress.... Maybe just a few and they're a minority.

Like these photos of Russia, they're quickly looking more and more like a city in western europe.
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Maybe I'm a little off the market, but it seemed to me the idea of going to Russia/Ukraine to find a wife who did't have a PHD or a major degree was the answer for what most guys were looking for in a wife.

Gee, it just seems to me, most of the women trying to leave these countries now are very skilled women, who for the most part are probably over achievers and just want to come to the USA anyway they can.  Whether it's by telling your the greatest guy they've ever met and so there after dumping you for a financial paycheck.

Clearly, most of you guys know I'm not a rocket scientist or a Attorney or a engineer.  But the kind of women who I seemed to be communicating with lately have a agenda, and will use anyone to achieve results.

Seems that bridge everyone has been talking about for finding the perfect girl, as she must live in a little town off the beaten path.

http://www.russiajournal.com/misc/slide/

... in response to Re: Here are some pictures of RUSSIA, posted by wsbill on Oct 17, 2002

Ahhhhhhh.....and some of the "fog" is starting to lift.

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