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Title: Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios contentions
Post by: Quasimoto on October 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
Facts: a book that backs up juios contentions :)

I get to the book below, but I must say that I have at times gotten on people about their braggadocios exposes on their sexual exploits. It seems there are a few "sophomores" that haven't moved on to a more mature stage of life. I did not pull the trigger, and criticize juio for the simple reason that some of what he said made sense, though  some seemed a little bragging. What I would like to say is that what he says is verified by Dr. Annette Fuglsang Owens who wrote the recent hit book: The Penguin Atlas Of Human Sexual Behavior. It is rather incredible really. It outlines the incident of STDs world wide, the practices of birth control, marriage practices, sex crimes, and love making habits of people world wide. I will get to the point in a minute, but here a a few interesting facts!

The youngest average age for girls to have their first sexual experience is: Czechoslovakia - age 15

The country where married couples have the least occurrences of sex among married couples aged 16-45: Hong Kong - at 50 times a year. The US - 160 times per year.

The Arranged marriages occur 80% of the time in China.

The men who spend the least amount of time during the sex act (including foreplay of course):
Thailand - 10 minutes.
Next: Russia - 11 minutes
Next: Italy - 13 minutes

The most time to perform the sex act from start to finish (including foreplay of course):
Brazil - 30 minutes
Next highest: USA - 28 minutes
Next: Canada - 25 minutes
Next: England - 23 minutes

There was even an add in the London newspapers talking about what great lovers Englishmen when quoting this stat. Of course you Brits do it with a straight face right?

Anyway, the stats on love making effort show that the Russian men don't care much for foreplay. But then again - who says that RWs like men who are not forceful and rather abrupt?????

I even read an AW who wrote she preferred the RMs rather animalistic "primative" manner in relations.

The good Doctor, I believe, is from England. Her colaborators on the book were largely from Hong Kong and China. It has unbelievable graphics (pie charts, etc). No wsbill, there are no explicit photos :)

Steve



Title: Like the Kinsey Report?
Post by: tfcrew on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios conten..., posted by Quasimoto on Oct 13, 2002

Fact or fiction?


Title: Re: Like the Kinsey Report?
Post by: Quasimoto on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Like the Kinsey Report?, posted by tfcrew on Oct 14, 2002

Buy the book. She tells how her and her compatriots did their field work and aquired their data. Then judge! The book has received rave reviews from every analyst and critic who has read it. The Kinsey report wasn't all fact. But some scientists do fabricate. Does anyone remember Margaret Mead. I think she was associated with the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago. She fabricated sociological data and research among Pacific Islanders, stating that they promoted sexual freedom among their children as early as age 12. The society was without jealousy, rivalry, or other social ills due to their enlightened sexual attitudes. Turned out later all of her research was a fraud. She and the museum were disgraced by the evidence against her. Does it happen? Yes! But the only information that lends itself to any brow raising as far as I can see is the information on the "foreplay" issue. The rest is too scientifically supported and reasonably available through other sources, such as the UN.

Steve



Title: Re: Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios contentions
Post by: Charles on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios conten..., posted by Quasimoto on Oct 13, 2002

Why is time so important?  If juio is correct then dickmanship is the key.


Title: Straight Faced?
Post by: Pordzhik on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios conten..., posted by Quasimoto on Oct 13, 2002

Difficult, unless I keep my tongue behind my teeth.


Title: But then ...
Post by: MarkInTx on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Straight Faced?, posted by Pordzhik on Oct 14, 2002

But if you do that... aren't you limiting the number of "instruments" available to you ;-)



Title: I suppose I'll be needing all my "Instruments"!!
Post by: Pordzhik on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to But then ..., posted by MarkInTx on Oct 14, 2002

Now that she's demanding at least 23 minutes.


Title: Woodwinds, to be specific. n/t
Post by: Scaught on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I suppose I'll be needing all my "I..., posted by Pordzhik on Oct 14, 2002

n/t


Title: Re: Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios contentions
Post by: KenC on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios conten..., posted by Quasimoto on Oct 13, 2002

Steve,
I had just read about these stats in a magazine article.  Good post.  All that does matter is that your mate's "stats" match your desires and vise versa.  Different strokes for different folks.
KenC


Title: Re: Re: Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios contentions
Post by: Quasimoto on October 16, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios co..., posted by KenC on Oct 14, 2002

Absolutely agree! And who is to say she is wrong? If she likes the beast type, then so be it! That is what turns her on. If she likes the guy with the slow hand? So be it! Thankfully I am a mixed bag!

Steve



Title: Re: Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios contentions
Post by: robobond on October 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios conten..., posted by Quasimoto on Oct 13, 2002

Good post, Steve - very informative and interesting.  I think it
demonstrates that it wasn't the subject matter that got JR in bad graces with the good citizens of Oz, it was his MO...

To anyone who thinks their vast knowledge of sexual techniques backed up by their numerous encounters is a significant factor contributing to the high numbers of female emigrants from the FSU, I would suggest, "It's the economy, Stupid."



Title: Very good! :-) n/t
Post by: Griffin on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios co..., posted by robobond on Oct 13, 2002




Title: Re: Re: Da! and Da! n/t
Post by: Quasimoto on October 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios co..., posted by robobond on Oct 13, 2002

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Title: And which Americans are those?
Post by: joe on October 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios conten..., posted by Quasimoto on Oct 13, 2002

African American,Italian American, Japanese American on and on and on or the faithful All American Indian.......?
Whhat I really find funny about people talking about Amerians-is it icludes any group that they would be negatively comaparing,,,,,,,,,,
It is like Georgy Porgy W.
We will have peace if we have to kill everyone to get it!
Proud to be an American-whatever that means.


Title: You and your posts
Post by: MtMav on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to And which Americans are those?, posted by joe on Oct 13, 2002

have always struck me as quite odd, weird, strange!


Title: Joe is the forums' resident hippie Marxist Socialist...
Post by: BarryM on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to You and your posts, posted by MtMav on Oct 14, 2002

like Marxism, you'll find Yoe's posts to be kind of utopian,weird, and without rationality. He does have good insight on RW/UW and he gives positive encouragement on finding and marrying an RW/UW so he is tolerated. I really don't have a problem with him, but I do occasionally respond to his warped political comments. He gets confused by my direct statements, but that's his nature. Don't be too offended by him; just attempt to imagine where his head is at... which may be anatomically impossible.

-blm



Title: I thought he was Molly Ivins bastard son! LOL! NT
Post by: Frank O on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Joe is the forums' resident hippie Marxi..., posted by BarryM on Oct 14, 2002

NT


Title: Good one Frank
Post by: BubbaGump on October 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I thought he was Molly Ivins bastard son..., posted by Frank O on Oct 14, 2002

I despise that b!tch Molly Ivins.  I will never read her columns because I already know how frucked up she is.


Title: Too darn clever Frank!!! Might you...
Post by: BURKE89 on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I thought he was Molly Ivins bastard son..., posted by Frank O on Oct 14, 2002

speculate, as to who Molly's tryst was with?


Title: Re: Too darn clever Frank!!! Might you...
Post by: Frank O on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Too darn clever Frank!!! Might you..., posted by BURKE89 on Oct 14, 2002

Gee I don't know could it be Al Gore? Or perhaps Janet Reno?


Title: Re: Re: Too darn clever Frank!!! Might you...
Post by: BURKE89 on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Too darn clever Frank!!! Might you....., posted by Frank O on Oct 14, 2002

Do you know something about... that little Floridian hottie, that I don't?


Title: Oh... God PLEASE no!!!
Post by: MarkInTx on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Too darn clever Frank!!! Might you..., posted by BURKE89 on Oct 14, 2002

Hey, I have to sleep tonight!

No nightmares, please!!!

Though, if I were to speculate... perhaps Crosby, from Crosby Stills and Nash? He seems to like those kind of women...



Title: I can handle the nightmares, but...
Post by: BURKE89 on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Oh... God PLEASE no!!!, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 14, 2002

your creative "visual" of Joe's donor/pops... Well, it has the carne asada, I just ate, begging to come back out.

I suppose, I shouldn't ask questions I really don't want to know!



Title: YIKES!!!!
Post by: Frank O on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Oh... God PLEASE no!!!, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 14, 2002

That IS scary! Then again you have Alec Baldwin another liberal nut. Wouldn't you PAY to have him leave the US as he promised if Bush was elected? By the way while on the topic Ukraine is trying to replace it's president. Perhaps we can send them ALGore as he is desperate to be a president. His left wing ideals would be perfect in Ukraine.


Title: Naaaa...
Post by: MarkInTx on October 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to YIKES!!!!, posted by Frank O on Oct 14, 2002

Imagine the fit he'd have when he saw all of those women wearing real furs!



Title: YIKES!!!!
Post by: Frank O on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Oh... God PLEASE no!!!, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 14, 2002

That IS scary! Then again you have Alec Baldwin another liberal nut. Wouldn't you PAY to have him the US?


Title: Molly Ivins..........
Post by: joe on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I thought he was Molly Ivins bastard son..., posted by Frank O on Oct 14, 2002

She has been a Pulitzer Prize finalist three times, and has won numerous journalism awards, including a 1991 Headliner's Award for best Texas column. She was named Outstanding Alumna by Columbia University's School of Journalism in 1976, and was a member of the 1992 Pulitzer Prize jury.
I wished I had those credentials!
Joe
:)


Title: Re: Molly Ivins...
Post by: Frank O on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Molly Ivins.........., posted by joe on Oct 14, 2002

Doesn't change the FACT that she makes asinine statements & her logic is just to the left of Karl Marx.


Title: I thought your were BarryM's little beeaatch! L*O*L...
Post by: joe on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I thought he was Molly Ivins bastard son..., posted by Frank O on Oct 14, 2002

How ya like me NOW BEEEEAAAATCHHHHHH!
Children! huh.........
Joe
ps you must do much better than that. Maybe you should call your dad to help-oh I forgot-he is a Beeeaaatch tooo. We will not talk about your mom.......Beaatchhhhhhh!
anything else?


Title: Ouch!
Post by: MarkInTx on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I thought he was Molly Ivins bastard son..., posted by Frank O on Oct 14, 2002

Wow! That's low!

Funny... but low!



Title: p.s.
Post by: joe on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Ouch!, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 14, 2002

why are you the only one responding your many of your "own" post? Andyou guys think I am strange. At least I do not respond to my own post........hmmm
Joe


Title: /
Post by: thesearch on October 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to p.s., posted by joe on Oct 14, 2002

One thing that I can say for you Joe ---- you take criticism very well - in that sense, some here should learn from you.


Title: You think so?
Post by: MarkInTx on October 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to /, posted by thesearch on Oct 15, 2002

You think that his telling me to get my penis out of my ass is taking criticism well???

I think Joe sometimes will roll with the punch... sometimes not...

Depends on his mood, I guess...



Title: Re: You think so?
Post by: thesearch on October 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to You think so?, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 15, 2002

Yeah,

I read that after. But overall he takes criticism well IMHO



Title: Re: Re: You think so?
Post by: MarkInTx on October 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: You think so?, posted by thesearch on Oct 15, 2002

Maybe it's just that he is so practiced at it :-)



Title: ps. I never said "your" penis...:)
Post by: joe on October 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: You think so?, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 15, 2002

I dish it out-it would only be manly to take it!
Joe Joe Dancer


Title: LOL n/t
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to ps. I never said "your" penis...., posted by joe on Oct 15, 2002

n/t


Title: Re: Ouch? get that Penis out of your anus and you will feel better! n.t
Post by: joe on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Ouch!, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 14, 2002

ouch...haha


Title: Coming out Yoe?
Post by: BarryM on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Ouch? get that Penis out of your anu..., posted by joe on Oct 14, 2002

You've better stressing the phallus excessively the last couple of days. I'm not sure what's on your mind, but if it keeps up, Mrs. Yoe may be looking for a new Mr. as your orientation seems to be tilting. Perhaps you should be visualizing on the V instead. You did move to California, home of fruits and nuts, so you may still be a little out of whack from the difference with Indiana, but I'm sure you'll feel right at home after a year or so. Just don't get caught growing dope in the national forest there.

-blm



Title: You should be banned from the board for that kind of BS.. n/t
Post by: Oscar on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Ouch? get that Penis out of your anu..., posted by joe on Oct 14, 2002

.


Title: You all are Evil, Evil.Evil, Evil, Evil, Evil....:
Post by: joe on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to You should be banned from the board for ..., posted by Oscar on Oct 14, 2002

and aloneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :)
Joe


Title: Q: What is one of the first symptoms of AIDS ?
Post by: BarryM on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to You all are Evil, Evil.Evil, Evil, Evil,..., posted by joe on Oct 14, 2002

A: A pain in the &ss

-blm



Title: Coming from you.........
Post by: joe on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Joe is the forums' resident hippie Marxi..., posted by BarryM on Oct 14, 2002

that is quite a compliment Barry! :)
I am Glad I live in America where my 'warped' views are tolerated-by people with even more warped views......haha
God forbid we have someone speaking about peace, equality, UTOPIA.............hows this WAR, KILL, HATE, COMMIE BASTARDS, WHITE GUYS RULE............good enough? Can I join now?
Wow!
Joe


Title: Hey Mav........
Post by: joe on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to You and your posts, posted by MtMav on Oct 14, 2002

I had to post one more time.......I am flattered that you have been on this forum, obviously for a long time to have been reading my post, and only posted once. And, that was to me. God Bless you. It is guys like you that keep me alive. I told my wife that I was on everyones mind. I think I will run for president..........you are awsome man. Will you be my new best friend????? Love Love Love
Joe


Title: Even Jesus Had enemies..........
Post by: joe on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to You and your posts, posted by MtMav on Oct 14, 2002

[This message has been edited by joe]

like you guys are not strange.........hahahaha
get a grip. I may mispell as I am whipping through dropping my diatriabe like the falcon dropping fecies on a bumb on a park bench-on his way to a real life. But, that does not make it any more stange than anything else that is posted here. The only thing strange is I have a successful marriage to a lovely RW-for now. And that is REAL........oh yea-I have a great life too. pssssssssst. I live on the beach! but do not tell anyone. :)
Joe


Title: I would love to get a gri(b), but...
Post by: BURKE89 on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Even Jesus Had enemies.........., posted by joe on Oct 14, 2002

this steely-eyed pigeon keeps defecating on...

So, target practice will commence.



Title: I already edited.........sorry, try again :( n.t
Post by: joe on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I would love to get a gri(b), but..., posted by BURKE89 on Oct 14, 2002

n.t


Title: So did Hitler.......... n/t
Post by: MarkInTx on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Even Jesus Had enemies.........., posted by joe on Oct 14, 2002

n/t


Title: so did mark! :).........
Post by: joe on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to So did Hitler..........     n/t, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 14, 2002

what is so funny is the hypocracy on the board. You guys would not even come if it was not to argue and watch others. When things are smooth-you get bored and start attacking each other. I bet Patrick has lost thousands of hits a day-just by eliminating trolls.......
hypocracy/////////WOW
At least I am honest. Oh by the way........good luck to you guys who are looking for what I found :)
Joe


Title: Correction -- So DOES Mark :-)
Post by: MarkInTx on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to so did mark! :)........., posted by joe on Oct 14, 2002

No doubt... hehehe

It should be noted, however, that I am not affecting a Martyr complex, Joe...

Actually what drew me here initially weren't the fights, it was the trip reports, and the sharing of experiences.

That is a lot less these days, I admit. What has happened is that a lot less guys are posting their experiences now, because no one LIKES being flamed.

FWIW, I think this is in part because of the lack of Trolls. When trolls attacked once a week, it kind of drew us all together. Without the trolls, everyone on here becomes a lot more selective of who they think is "OK". Kind of like there was no talk of Black/White relations right after 9/11...

And, what happened was the "Old Guard" became selective and exclusive. If you had posted for over a year, you were (generally) OK. (except for a few of the on-going feuds...) If you were a new guy (like Oscar) then anything you said was open to debate.

Personally, I thought that diminished the board. But, the fact that when I came back after my hiatus, I was readily accepted back into the "old-timers" club, made me hesitate to say anything at first.

I mean... I was sitting at the "cool kids" table. Why make waves?

But then after I started thinking about it, I decided that the cool kids weren't so cool after all. In fact, most of them are just punks with bad table manners.

So... I was "kicked out of the club" and now I'm public enemy number one.

So what?

Frankly, I would have left a long time ago, except I keep getting emails from newbies after some of the posts here. And, some of the guys on here (and many of the guys no longer here) DID help me out when I started so I like to share what little I know, as a way of paying back the debt.

I have never claimed to be an expert.

My experiences are all anecdotal.

I haven't made as many trips as Dan, I haven't bedded as many women as LP, and I haven't made as much money as Jack...

All I can tell guys is what worked for me. And that's all I do.

The rest of it be dammed...



Title: Re: Correction -- So DOES Mark :-)
Post by: Mark H on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Correction -- So DOES Mark   :-), posted by MarkInTx on Oct 14, 2002

I haven't made as many trips as Dan, I haven't bedded as many women as LP, and I haven't made as much money as Jack...

I have, I have, and I DO.   :)


Mark H.



Title: Well... Wow!
Post by: MarkInTx on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Correction -- So DOES Mark   :-), posted by Mark H on Oct 14, 2002

Wow... Didn't think that was possible...

Dan spent months over there (according to his posts)

LP Bedded scores of women... (according to his innuendos)

And Jack is rich enough to own a pool and sip margaritas in the rain while his wife waits on him hand and foot.

Sounds like the life of leisure to me!

Shucks... you trump them all?

Now what will I do for heroes?



Title: waaaaaa, waaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaaaaaa
Post by: Jack on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Correction -- So DOES Mark   :-), posted by Mark H on Oct 14, 2002

waaaaaa, waaaaa, waaaaaa, Patrick, he's talking about me again, waaaaaaa, waaaaaa, waaaaaaa, make him stop spamming Patrick, waaaaaaa, waaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa


Title: Re: You and your posts
Post by: BURKE89 on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to You and your posts, posted by MtMav on Oct 14, 2002

I think... old yoe, should lay off the sauce.


Title: One thing's for sure...
Post by: tfcrew on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to You and your posts, posted by MtMav on Oct 14, 2002

...doesn't know much about the "edit message" tab.


Title: Re: Gotta bring the race issue into it huh?
Post by: Quasimoto on October 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to And which Americans are those?, posted by joe on Oct 13, 2002

Hey fool, I didn't write the book or do the research. I willl have to email the good Doctor and ask her if she interviewed the appropriate sample pool according to Joe :) LOL.

I think this is more of a cultural issue, not a racial issue. Do I hear the word liberal being whispered. RMs may be raised and reinforced to believe sex is for them. Brazilians faired the best for crying out loud. The scientists weren't American!

Steve



Title: Oh, Sorry for being so "fool"ish...
Post by: joe on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Gotta bring the race issue into it h..., posted by Quasimoto on Oct 13, 2002

is that Southern American or Eastern? Do they make $20k or $200K? Are they doctors or Mechanics.......I know I being very foolish and naive, I just want to make sure when I read such inspirational wisdom that I record it in my library of deap thought properly. I would hate to 'misquote' your post when I offer this great insight to other 'fools' who are less informed........NOT
Joe ;)


Title: Good Reference . . .
Post by: Dan on October 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Facts: a BOOK that backs up juios conten..., posted by Quasimoto on Oct 13, 2002

And I'd bet there would have been a lot less 'upset' with juio's comments had he made them in a manner that wasn't so vile.

The only adjustment I'd make is that it only backs up SOME of juio's assertions.

Otherwise - it is a good post Steve.

- Dan



Title: Re: Good Reference . . .
Post by: Quasimoto on October 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Good Reference . . ., posted by Dan on Oct 13, 2002

I agreed with most of your opinion Dan, but also I was torn. I knew some of his insights through self gratification and discovery were true! So I just kept my impression of any chest-thumping to myself. But I believe a lot of it was intuitive and supported by this book. By the way, you can get it through Amazon dot com

Steve



Title: Let me play....
Post by: robobond on October 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Good Reference . . ., posted by Quasimoto on Oct 13, 2002

...the devil's advocate.  Wouldn't it be a hoot if JR had never even met a RW & got his info from a book like this?...
:) :) :)