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Title: OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying... Post by: Frank O on October 04, 2002, 04:00:00 AM a Ukrainian or Russian lady? I mean on this board or if you know someone who has actually succeeded in this? I"m just curious cause man things look pretty bleak & I'm not afraid man but I sure would like to know.
Title: Don't leave Bulgaria out!:-) Post by: AronM on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying....., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002
Russia and the Ukraine aren't the only countries with desirable ladies! My beautiful wife is from Bulgaria and we're coming up on 7 months...a very quick and happy 7 months. Title: Re: Don't leave Bulgaria out!:-) Post by: Frank O on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Don't leave Bulgaria out!:-), posted by AronM on Oct 5, 2002
I was considering Bulgaria but had trouble with some of the agencies. How did you do it? ALso how old are you & your wife & how long did you correspond with each other? Also how many trips did you make? I don't mean to sound nosy I'm just trying to get as much info from people who have succeeded at this. Marriage is obviously THE most important relationship in our lives next to our relationship with God. Title: Tip for you Post by: KenC on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Don't leave Bulgaria out!:-), posted by Frank O on Oct 6, 2002
Frank, Read the poster's profile and you will get many answers to your questions. KenC Title: Re: OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying... Post by: JR on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying....., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002
The success is NO better with a RW then a AW. My opinion is it is less than 50 % at best. Like most have said below, it's all up to you. If you take your time and try to play all your cards right, that's all you can ask for. Most guys who end up with a favorable result have spend ALOT of time and money in their search. Also success is not measured by finding a RW and bringing her here. I only know one couple who has past the 3 year mark!!!!! and a bunch who never made it close to that. There are many reasons, but most of them just did not use their head. Title: A Few Additional Marriages . . . Post by: Dan on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying....., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002
Here are some of the people I've met (or have direct knowledge of): * My wife and I have been married for 18 months and all is well. It seems I am missing some (apologies to those I may have missed), but these are the ones that come to mind at the moment. As for "success" - others have already addressed the point that simply marrying someone from the FSU is NOT success in itself. It is the creation of a happy and fulfilling life together that represents "success" - at least, IMHO. - Dan Title: Hey what about me? :) Post by: Ken W on October 07, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to A Few Additional Marriages . . ., posted by Dan on Oct 5, 2002
Ken W and wife Lena married 3 years in december. Title: WOW! Thanks for... Post by: Frank O on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to A Few Additional Marriages . . ., posted by Dan on Oct 5, 2002
the info. I have only been familiar with this board for about 2 weeks now so I don't really know anyone. This really give me SOME hope! LOL!!! Like I said I'm prepared for the worst & hoping for the best. Title: You forgot the people outside the USA Post by: BubbaGump on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to A Few Additional Marriages . . ., posted by Dan on Oct 5, 2002
There was: Dave the Kiwi, 3 Australian guys, 3 guys from Norway, one guy from Switzerland and I think one from Sweden. Title: Yes, I Did . . . Post by: Dan on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to You forgot the people outside the USA, posted by BubbaGump on Oct 5, 2002
As I mentioned, there are a number of guys that I've exchanged e-mails with - and I've gotten to know them by their 'real' names instead of by their board handles. To preserve the integrity of their identities, if I could not recall their 'handle', I did not mention them in the list. Still, it is a pretty significant list - don't you think??? - Dan Title: Yes, there were several foreign successes Post by: BubbaGump on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Yes, I Did . . ., posted by Dan on Oct 6, 2002
Like Mark is saying below, this board seems to have a higher success rate that the 40 to 50% I would have estimated. Really, we can only know the success rate by following the reltionship over a longer time frame than people tend to be involved with this board. Still we have several people married for 1 to 2 years still reporting good relationships. Dave the Kiwi reported in last spring and sounded quite satisfied. One of the Norwegian guys posted his pictures about 3 or 4 weeks back and he was a good looking man with a pretty hot wife. The biggest surprise to me is that many of the men seeking foreign women are not bad looking guys at all. I don't remember if Deckard was on you list or not but he was another success until we hear otherwise. Title: Re: Yes, there were several foreign successes Post by: Oscar on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Yes, there were several foreign successe..., posted by BubbaGump on Oct 6, 2002
I think that the list of successful marriages could be much longer than we might think. I think however, that a lot of the guys just don't come around and post on the board much after they are married.. Like Rags for example. He may drop in only once or twice a month, others I believe just quit coming completely, not because they are unhappy in their marriages but because they now have a very different and probably busier life being newly married and perhaps with a new adopted child or children on the way.. I think this would be pretty normal. I think some guys see this board as a tool in their search for an FSU woman but once the search is over, perhaps they just don't see the need to continue, where other guys who marry may stay because they like the comraderie or helping newbies etc.. I'm not saying either is right or wrong, just the way it seems to be. Oscar Title: Re: Yes, I Did . . . Post by: MarkInTx on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Yes, I Did . . ., posted by Dan on Oct 6, 2002
Yes... a very significant list. I wonder... is the high success rate of this board because the men who read this board are better informed, and make better decisions? Or because the marriages or engagements that ended badly garvaitate to the more vicious forums? Title: Only a Guess, But . . . Post by: Dan on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Yes, I Did . . ., posted by MarkInTx on Oct 6, 2002
It's probably a bit of both. --smile-- - Dan Title: Did you leave off Oatmeal? Post by: MarkInTx on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to A Few Additional Marriages . . ., posted by Dan on Oct 5, 2002
Or was he listed under a different name? Title: I May Have - But it Was Unintended . . . Post by: Dan on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Did you leave off Oatmeal?, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 5, 2002
As I was writing the list, I know a few others occurred to me as well, but I couldn't recall their 'handles' and thence failed to include them also. Makes you wonder what would happen if we married guys all did as Oscar suggests and stop posting on the board. - Dan Title: I don't wonder at all Post by: MarkInTx on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to I May Have - But it Was Unintended . . ., posted by Dan on Oct 5, 2002
The place would become filled with the blind leading the blind and turn into the internet equivalent of a Tony Robbins pep-rally. "Ra! Ra! You can do it!" And it would be a whole lot less useful. You and I disagree on many things, Dan. But, like Voltaire said: "I may disagree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it..." Title: I know of two Post by: BubbaGump on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying....., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002
One successful marriage to a russian woman and one unsuccessful to a ukranian women. I know of 3 for 3 successful marriages among american men and asian women. One woman was japanese, one korean and one phillipino. Title: Re: OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying... Post by: Anastassia on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying....., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002
Hi Frank, Our marriage is very successful, we have been married for almost 3 years, for details you are welcome to www.translation.wasem.net and click on K1 Story. Also you may take a look at Russian Women List at http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/russian-women-l.html Lots of times this question was asked there and lots of couples replied. I myself know pretty closely about 10 couples whom i helped with transltaions and calls and who are very happy with each other. Anastassia Title: relax Post by: KenC on October 04, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying....., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002
Frank, Just go and have a blast. I have no idea how Rick could have miscalculated so badly on the gal he brought over. Some how there was a huge miscommunication between them. I don't know all the facts, and the guy is hurting bad enough, so that is as far as I can go on his situation. - RW are sexy, feminine, great lovers, passionate ect ect-BUT they are WOMEN. They come in all different flavors and all different personalities. You have to take the time to know a woman before you make any commitments. A lot is said here on the number of women you should introduce yourself to before making your selection. The current phrase used here is "to cast a large net". That is fine, but the second step is to get to know your selection VERY WELL. I dated a lot of AW before I got married to a RW. Being the eternal optimist, I was always geeked on the newest date prospect. I found out that it really took 6 months to get to know a woman. After that period of time, all the ugly little secrets came to the surface. The same type of logic applies to RW. It takes time. When you shortcut your time you increase your risks. It really is as simple as that. Have guys made out OK taking shortcuts? Sure. But the chances are much greater. - I would be a little concerned about Lugansk. Many here have talked about it being a scammer center. Cover your butt with a firm "plan B" before you go. Just in case. If you want to learn from another's misfortune in Lugansk, check the archives for Ryan's posts on his trip there. Be daring about going and meeting women in the FSU, but don't take the huge risks involved with getting engaged and bringing a woman here before you really know her. Most of it is common sense and if you have had successful dating experiences here, you will do OK over there. KenC (married to a RW for over 3 years and still very happy. I had no surprises when my wonderful woman arrived) Title: Success defined......... Post by: joe on October 04, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying....., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002
I have woke up with my wife every single day for over 1000 days-and have not killed her yet-NOW THAT IS SUCCESS. There is no magic potion. You must follow your heart, use your head (the one on your shoulders) be patient, have faith, be honest, have trust .........then spit three time, swallow 1 teaspoon of salt and vinegar and pee in Fresh winter Snow. It is there you will find your answer! Just be smart! Joe Title: How do you..... Post by: LP on October 04, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying....., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002
....measure "success"? Any moron can marry one, all it takes is some cash and patience. To me, success is a *minimum* of three years. I mean come on, most same cultures marriages seem to last at least that long. Course, some would argue the very fact that it being a cross cultural deal slants the odds one way or the other. Any one care to comment on that? Do you think it hurts or helps? Kinda like the dog years versus human years thing? Besides, you seldom hear about the ones gone good, only sour. Choose carefully and invest the time. Time is the key, in my opinion. As KenC states (and he's one of the successful ones), too much is said about how many to meet and not enough is said about investing time with the one you choose. The bottom line is any relationship reqires commitment, and it takes two to do that tango. Title: Here's what I know PERSONALLY... Post by: Stevo on October 04, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying....., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002
Of the couples I personally know (5): 1 divorced (after 6 months) 1 imminent divorce (after 4 years) 1 on shaky ground (after 2 years and new baby) 1 OK (after 8 months) 1 great (after 2-1/2 years) Title: Re: I know a few guys Post by: wsbill on October 04, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to OK HOw many have succeeded in marrying....., posted by Frank O on Oct 4, 2002
Jack (never met him but he's the guy that got me motivated to go get my passport picture), Marty, Rags (met his prettty wife), Oatmeal. This is for real MAN... maybe you should contact these guys as ask if this is the thing to do. |