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Title: In case anyone is interested.... Post by: joe on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM These women are HUMAN!They are not prefect-some are really BAD people. But and I mean BUT.........many men who go this route are not the sweetest fruit on the vine. Sorry for the wake up call, but I have met many guys, "whos gonna getem one a do's russian babes with da big hooters". The 80/20 rule workes here as well as anywhere. Whenever an agenda is force behind the action, you have a high failure rate. It is the law of the Jungle. Carnivores high a high failure rate. So, if you are a reasonable person and you just are not finding what you want here at home-by all means change fishing holes. But if you are just trying to find a hot chick to impress you friends or you just want someone to have sex with-get ready for a wild ride. As can be seen with Snowwego-these girls are considered scammers and maybe placed on webpages for all to see, just beacause they feel they have made a mistake-WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT. HAVE YOUGUYS NEVER HAD AN ERROR IN JUDGMENT. I do not know the situation, I am just trying to be objective. It is easy to throw stones when you feel betrayed. But we are not children. So be aware and try to be a man.
Joe Title: Also Post by: Griffin on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to In case anyone is interested...., posted by joe on Oct 5, 2002
I suspect part of what is going on with Snowwego is a cultural diffence in male/female negotiation tactics. Once Snow's woman knew she had her man she became very high maintenance. I have watched several FSU women treat men in general and their fathers in particular with disrespect, only to have the man try that much harder to please them. There is also the 17 year old daughter. Don't you know she was thrilled about leaving her (boy)friends behind. Snow, if you read this: You did the right thing IMHO when you sent her to the motel. You got her attention. I wouldn't be so quick to send her home until I saw how she reacts. The dog business is disturbing. Make sure she understands that wives come and go but a dog is forever! Title: here is the funny thing.......... Post by: joe on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Also, posted by Griffin on Oct 5, 2002
we know only one side.......... and if you think that RW give no attention to their men-you have no idea about Russian culture whatsoever. This is the problem most guys are going to have. I do not know what her problem is-So I cannot say these things about her. I just know that the girls I have met are very afraid and when they get here they find the men they 'thought' they loved or could learn to love (again RW mentality) was just not what they expected. Yes we can blame them for idealized expectations-but we can blame ourselves also. So all of you guys making assessments of what this girls 'agenda' was...hmmmm-I just wonder how it is going to work for you when you find your 'wife'! Snow-email me her hotel phone number and I will have my wife call andn get 'her' side of the story. And, I will post it-promise Joe Title: Golly Joe, would ... Post by: BURKE89 on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to here is the funny thing.........., posted by joe on Oct 5, 2002
you be so kind as to help me, if my heart was ever torn asunder? Will you please inform me of the "squalor" I live in; while I'm searching for a friendly confidant, during a low point in my life? Last, but not least; would you, or your wife, call my fiance at... and promise to post "her" side of the story, for the world to see? I sure wish I had such a swell friend like you, long ago. Thanks in advance, Vaughn Title: News Flash.......... Post by: joe on October 07, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Golly Joe, would ..., posted by BURKE89 on Oct 6, 2002
I am not anybody's friend here. I have never met any of you guys. As far as the comments about the girl-I am just fair. He called her a scammer-I did not see it in the post. I was just clarifying. So say what you will but I will remain subjective. I do not make comments just to be PC. Sorry Joe Title: lol, come on Yoey.... Post by: LP on October 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to News Flash.........., posted by joe on Oct 7, 2002
...he had ya dead to rights. Fwiw, I understood your point. All except that part about you being "subjective". ;-) Title: Re: lol, come on Yoey.... Post by: BURKE89 on October 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to lol, come on Yoey...., posted by LP on Oct 9, 2002
Sympathy, for the fallen prolly-boy, is touching. I admire your wit & certainly your loyalty! Vaughn Title: To venture forth, into the mud with "Cybil" won't... Post by: BURKE89 on October 07, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to News Flash.........., posted by joe on Oct 7, 2002
[This message has been edited by BURKE89] This message was deleted Title: touche!... right on the money. Post by: robobond on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM Title: ROFLMAO Post by: MarkInTx on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Golly Joe, would ..., posted by BURKE89 on Oct 6, 2002
Glad to see the fine art of sarcasm is not lost ... Title: Re: ROFLMAO Post by: BURKE89 on October 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to ROFLMAO, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 6, 2002
Mark, I simply don't believe in kicking a man when he's down. I don't know Rick, nor have I conversed with him, yet I feel for his hurt. I counted two-and-seventy stenches, Vaughn Title: Agreed Post by: MarkInTx on October 07, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: ROFLMAO, posted by BURKE89 on Oct 6, 2002
Which is why I said some similar things in some other threads... Actually, I talked with Rick on the phone, and we emailed quite a bit. He's a good guy and was a lot of help to me. He deserves better, and I hope he finds that someone... He's a stand-up guy... Title: He was right Post by: MarkInTx on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Also, posted by Griffin on Oct 5, 2002
Snow was right to send her to a hotel. Frankly, that was a stroke of genius. He is also right about sending her home. So what if this is just "her negotiating" ploy? Would YOU want to marry someone like that? Not me, thanks! Who wants to marry a shrew? Title: Re: He was right Post by: Oscar on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to He was right, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 5, 2002
Another major sign to me that she is big trouble is his friends Russian wife who will not have anything to do with her now! That is NOT a good sign! I say get her home BEFORE she smartens up and decides that she can perhaps wait it out till she gets her green card and THEN leave! Again, I have a hard time believeing that none of these qualities existed in this woman before her arrival.. So many of us are so willing to ignore the warning signs, however small they may be.. Title: I agree on the warning signs... Post by: Frank O on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: He was right, posted by Oscar on Oct 5, 2002
I have a friend who has SO MAY things wrong with his girl but he is hanging to I don't know what! It boggles my mind but some men a gluttons for punishment & are in denial or think they are going to change. When a person has a CHARACTER problem THEY CAN'T CHANGE! Title: Re: I agree on the warning signs... Post by: Oscar on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to I agree on the warning signs..., posted by Frank O on Oct 5, 2002
I think this is why it is very important to do some real "homework" on a girl. What I mean by that is to be sure to see her with her family and friends, how she interacts with them, and ask THEM lots of questions, not just her. See how she treats waiters, shop clerks and taxi drivers etc.. I personally adhere to the idea of it being good going on a few trips before making a decision, to get to know the women there, and I feel that's hard to do with just meeting one girl. The more you go and the more women you meet, the more likely you are to be able to spot potential trouble or scammers. If you meet more women, you will hopefully not be as determined to hang on to a potentially bad situation because you have learned from experience that there are plenty more to choose from if one isn't working out. That's just my personal opinion and not all guys may agree. Title: Easy to say Post by: MarkInTx on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: He was right, posted by Oscar on Oct 5, 2002
Yeah... you're right. I'm sure there were signs. Rick will probably even agree with you. But there's no sense in hitting a man while he is down just to be smug, Oscar. Obviously he knows he made a mistake. I applaud him for taking the actions now, that's the point. There is nothing he can do to undo the actions of his past. I'll not criticize him for something he should have seen, or something he should have done. I wasn't in his situation. I didn't feel his emotions. I wasn't there at the beginning of his romance. I'm not going to criticize him. But I will applaud him for his current actions. And for his candor. His willingness to share this painful moment is helpful as a lesson for all of us. In many ways, under the right circumstances, what happened to him could have happened to you. Or to me. None of us can say that we are coldly objective in this... Title: Honestly I don't know if I would have shared... Post by: Frank O on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Easy to say, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 5, 2002
my hat's off to him. I would be too embarassed. Everyone I know knows about my girl & that I'm going over there next month. If things don't work out I'll NEVER hear the end of it so I've stopped talking about her. It hurts man I'm sure. He didn't have to share this with us but did. You gotta respect that. Title: And yet Post by: MarkInTx on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Honestly I don't know if I would have sh..., posted by Frank O on Oct 5, 2002
Stories like Rick's are much more valuable than success stories. I wish more guys would be this honest. Sharing mistakes is just as important as sharing successes. Title: Absolutely agree.. Takes real cajones to be that honest!! n/t Post by: Oscar on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM Title: Dammiit Mark! Post by: Oscar on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Easy to say, posted by MarkInTx on Oct 5, 2002
"Hitting a man while he's down"?? "Just to be smug"? Where do you get that from? I really don't appreciate your commets Mark! YOU are trying to make something out of my post that was not at all my intent and I was NOT "criticizing" him! I said "MANY of us are willing to ignore the warning signs"! My point being that many of us overlook things we likely should not at times. If you took the time to look at my other couple of posts to him you would see that I have been very sympathetic to his situatuion! Thanx again for trying to stir up BS where none exists. Title: Tu quoque, Brute, fili mi or Et tu, Brute? ;-) n/t Post by: LP on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM Title: You have be awfully young to be so right! n/t Post by: Griffin on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM Title: Don't know how you figure that Post by: MarkInTx on October 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to You have be awfully young to be so right..., posted by Griffin on Oct 5, 2002
I know a little of the background. He treated her like a queen. She came over hear and acted like a spoiled brat. And I know a little more than just one side, since she is from the same home town as my lady. I'm telling you... he's justified in sending her home now. |