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Title: what kind of money
Post by: snowwego on June 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
I am sending the petition to the ins office . I need to know what kind of money they require and who should I make a check out to if they will take it. Rick


Title: Why Take Chances?
Post by: MarkInTx on June 07, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to what kind of money, posted by snowwego on Jun 5, 2002

A Money Order is .35 at Albertsons...

Just send a money order. Why take the chance???



Title: Personal checks ok- it's on INS web site!
Post by: Oscar on June 07, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to what kind of money, posted by snowwego on Jun 5, 2002

I can't understand what all the hoopla is about.. right on the gov INS web site it says personal checks are fine..

"Paying Fees:
PLEASE DO NOT SEND CASH. The Service Center will accept money orders, personal checks, and cashiers checks for payment of fees. The Service Center cannot deposit cash. Be sure checks are signed and correctly dated. Post-dated checks are acceptable as long as the date on the check is no more than 5 days in advance of the date the check is received."

Hope this helps.
Oscar



Title: So What?!? The Website, Just Like Many of The INS Forms, Are WRONG!!
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Personal checks ok- it's on INS web site..., posted by Oscar on Jun 7, 2002

I'll say it again.

Local field INS offices are free to establish their own individual policies for payment acceptance. Period.

Some will accept personal checks - and some will NOT.

Reference the following website: http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/graphics/fieldoffices/denver/aboutus.htm - and you will see, if you look hard enough, that Denver does NOT accept personal checks. Period.

I have not done an exhaustive search to see exactly which will - and which will not - accept personal checks. That is up to each person for themselves.

What is clear, however, is that you (and others) stand to be sorely disappointed if you go to your local INS office expecting to be able to file and pay with a personal check - and they turn you away.

- Dan



Title: Re: So What?!? The Website, Just Like Many of The INS Forms, Are WRONG!!
Post by: Oscar on June 07, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to So What?!? The Website, Just Like Many o..., posted by Dan on Jun 7, 2002

I don't have a clue as to the "local" centers, I spoke about the 4 processing centers and they DO take personal checks.  Now does that mean I would use one?  NO!  I will always use a money order but a person CAN use a personal check if they wish...

Sheesh, let's drop it..



Title: Nope - Let's NOT Drop It . . .
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: So What?!? The Website, Just Like Ma..., posted by Oscar on Jun 7, 2002

Oscar - in your opening post, you indicate that you don't understand what all the "hoopla" is about. Well, yes, that much is clear - you clearly do NOT understand.

So I will try - yet again - to explain it to you. If it doesn't sink in the first time you read what follows - try reading it again REAL SLOOOOOOOWWWWWWWLLLLLLYYYY. And if that doesn't work - maybe someone can read it to you and make an attempt to interpret.

First major point (are you following so far Oscar??):

Personal checks are, indeed, accepted by the 4 regional INS service centers.

Hey Oscar - we don't disagree or have an issue yet --smile--.

However Oscar - how many time do you suppose you will have to interact with one of the 4 service centers?? Give up?? Well  most of us (not all - depending on residence) - will only have interactions with the SC's  - now get this - ONE TIME. Yes, That's All Oscar - only one single solitary time.

In fairness, since you are still in the searching phase, it probably isn't fair to be poking fun at you since you obviously don't know the first thing about this phase of the process - but still . . . .

Now for the second major point (are you still with me Oscar or is someone already reading this to you??? Here we go again . . .):

All of the INS local field offices are free to establish their own local policies for terms of payment! Yes, it's true Oscar. No sh1t!! And you know what else Oscar?!? Some of them refuse to take those same personal checks that the SCs were happy to accept! How about that Oscar! Hard to believe now isn't it?!? Whereas Nebraska would happily - indeed graciously - accept the risk of your paying with a personal check - some of these lowly, good-for-nothing field INS offices will NOT! Talk about unfair!!

And to make it worse Oscar (yes, it *does* get worse, so I hope your still hanging in there buddy) - MOST of your contact with the INS is going to be with these same lowlife scumbags that think you are not a good credit risk - and those scumbags demand that you pay with a money order! Can you imagine the audacity!

Now Oscar - there is one final point to make (at least one). When this thread started, it was started because someone blindly made the claim that "OF COURSE THE INS ACCEPTS PERSONAL CHECKS." Which, as we now know Oscar, is untrue (You *have* followed me all along - haven't you Oscar??? - and you *do* now know this statement was untrue, don't you Oscar???).

Now I could be mistaken - but I just cannot imagine a good soul such as yourself Oscar - wishing for anyone to be misled by information coming from this board that is untrue. You wouldn't want that - would you Oscar??

So now - if you've read everything **REAL** closely, it should be finally clear to you what all this "hoopla" is about.

If not - just post again and I'll be happy to take yet another run at clearing it up for you Oscar.

Cheers!

- Dan



Title: Hey Dannyboy, eat my shorts...
Post by: Oscar on June 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Nope - Let's NOT Drop It . . ., posted by Dan on Jun 9, 2002

I am glad you seem to be having such a total cow over all this Dan, it is all rather hilarious seeing you freak like this.. LOL!  I made a simple comment that the INS does indeed accept personal checks, I got it right off their web site.  If you don't like it and can't accept it, take it up with them and ask them to remove this communist plot propaganda from their websites ok?? LOL!  And I was always referring to the SERVICE CENTERS Einstein, can you say "service centers"?  That's right, I thought you could, it is indeed a beautiful day in the neighborhood..

Take your Lorazepam and go back to sleep ok??  

Sheesh!



Title: Gawd Oscar - That Has GOT to be *THE* Most Intelligent Comment You've Made Yet . . .
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Hey Dannyboy, eat my shorts..., posted by Oscar on Jun 9, 2002

I'm really impressed. ROFLMAO


Title: I'm surprised you can even spell "intelligence"! LOL!
Post by: Oscar on June 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Gawd Oscar - That Has GOT to be *THE* Mo..., posted by Dan on Jun 9, 2002

Look, you lost ok.. try to take it like a man.

And YOU are married?? Now I've heard everything!  "Gawd", I sure hope it isn't to an FSU woman.. that's all we need is more examples of Americans like you giving us all a bad name!



Title: Yes, Indeedy - I can Spell Intelligence. Now Oscar, How is it That You Know About This Lorazepam??
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I'm surprised you can even spell "i..., posted by Oscar on Jun 9, 2002

Oscar ol' Boy, you really ought not be playing around with that sort of drug - it can create hallucinations - you know, sort of like the one where you said I "lost." LOL

And yes I am married to a lovely lady from the FSU. I only toy around with the likes of you when we aren't busy exploring Vail (as we did this past weekend) or some other such pastime.

Now Oscar - look REALLY close and see if you can find the spelling error I left for you. ROFLMAO.

- Dan



Title: I found it!!
Post by: Jack on June 10, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Yes, Indeedy - I can Spell Intelligence...., posted by Dan on Jun 9, 2002

I found the spelling error.

ol' is spelled ole in Tejas.



Title: Try to lose a little more gracefully Danny... LOL!
Post by: Oscar on June 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Yes, Indeedy - I can Spell Intelligence...., posted by Dan on Jun 9, 2002

And I know a lot about drugs like Lorazepam Dan, because of having to recommend prescriptions for them constantly for miserable people like yourself.. ;-)

Look, I made it known, just like others here, that the INS Service Centers do indeed take personal checks.  You couldn't handle being WRONG so you start with the personal attacks.. Grow up ok??


 



Title: Hey Oscar - Enjoy Yourself and Go Read Some of Mark's Story Above . . .
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Try to lose a little more gracefully Dan..., posted by Oscar on Jun 9, 2002

It'll improve your mood and make you feel less 'sting' about your recent failures on the board. Really - it's no disgrace.  Others, much worse (or better, as the case may be) than you, have also tried to spread misinformation and were caught. They (well, most of them anyway) had the intelligence (there's that word again Oscar 'ol Chap) to recognize when they were stung and called it a day. You, OTOH, don't appear to share in their wisdom.

It's OK - it's already out there for everyone to read for themselves. They already know that I never made any false claims - and they already know that you did. Psssst - Oscar - it's one of the curses of a public message board. Unless Patrick decides to delete your drivel, it remains for all to read - and they have.

But you keep up with your delusions Oscar. I'm sure you do, indeed, know all about Lorazepam and many others. Maybe you need to increase the dosage Oscar. Your anxiety levels are far too high to be healthy at the moment.

Take Care Oscar,

- Dan



Title: Dan, don't go away a sore loser, just go away! LOL!
Post by: Oscar on June 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Hey Oscar - Enjoy Yourself and Go Read S..., posted by Dan on Jun 9, 2002

Of course you are trying again to distort the FACTS Dannyboy..  what else would you try to do being DOWN 5 to zip! LOL!  And of course I still stand behind what I originally said, that the INS does indeed take personal checks..  You can whine all you want but all the service centers do take checks...  Go to their web sites, read it and weep loser..

Yes, it is my mission in life to completely mislead people here Dan..  I at least contribute something as opposed to your drivel..

One just has to wonder how happy a marriage (if there really is one!) could be with you spending your every waking moment here?? LOL!  Give me a break!! LOLOLOL!

I hope your meds last you through the night! ;-)))    



Title: OK - I am Going Away Now Oscar. You've Hurt My Feelings and I Just Can't Take it Anymore . . .
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Dan, don't go away a sore loser, just go..., posted by Oscar on Jun 9, 2002

Yeah right!!

Are you trying to break records for the number of LOL's in a thread? LOL

- Dan



Title: Are you sure it isn't your own breath you can't take? ;-)
Post by: Oscar on June 09, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to OK - I am Going Away Now Oscar. You've H..., posted by Dan on Jun 9, 2002

LOL!  I'm done with you, you've over spent your allowed time to make an arse of yourself.. Don't misunderstand me, you've done a fantastic job of it, but your time is up..

And say hello to Gomer for us when you get back to Mayberry..
Sheezam!  LOL!



Title: Wow - 2 More LOL's and a ;-) . . .
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Are you sure it isn't your own breath yo..., posted by Oscar on Jun 9, 2002

I just cannot wait to see your other talents Oscar. I mean, clearly straight-forward and substantive information is not among your contributions - so the levity of a little entertainment at your expense is, I suppose, better then nothing.

See Ya around Oscar. You've resurrected my interest in this board. Congratulations! ROFLMAO

- Dan



Title: Dan, your anorexic self-esteem is showing...
Post by: Oscar on June 10, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Wow - 2 More LOL's and a ;-) . . ., posted by Dan on Jun 10, 2002

I really am having a hard time believing you ARE married at all Dan, not with your spending all day and night here like this.. LOL!  I mean, who are you trying to fool??

And when you get around to posting any information that is of any use to anyone at all here besides lining their bird cages with it, we will let you know...  
I suggest you do NOT hold your breath! LOL!!

A bit of advice- next time, just try to argue points rather than personally attacking people in a feeble attempt to elevate your grossly anorexic self-esteem.  When you lose a point, you should just let it go rather than embarrassing yourself further, like tonight..

Have a nice evening (what is left of it) with your... (wife?).
   



Title: Don't Look Now Oscar, But Your Beliefs . . .
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Dan, your anorexic self-esteem is showin..., posted by Oscar on Jun 10, 2002

Could not mean any less to me - other than for the entertainment value they offer.

As for my wife - well, we do just fine (thank you) and I assure you it is unnecessary for you to worry about her well-being. Many from the board have met us and know the reality and she is quite well taken care of - and vice versa.

As for information validity and veracity - yes, let's allow the board to judge for themselves - as I'm sure most have already done.

"Losing" points - well that deserves one of your famous LOL's - or maybe another just for good measure - LOL. Golly - that's fun. LOL

Oh - and thanks for the advice Oscar. It means ever so much to me. Couldn't you tell?

In closing - please don't flatter yourself with the notion that my engaging in a bit of toomfoolery with you requires any time at all. The likes of you are were wisps of distraction.

See Ya Around . . .

- Dan



Title: All good things must come to an end
Post by: Jack on June 10, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Don't Look Now Oscar, But Your Beliefs ...., posted by Dan on Jun 10, 2002

and hopefully this wonderful thread has come to an end.

No sense in replying back Dan or Oscar, the thread should just die here.

Hopefully what we all learned from this thread was that the four major INS service centers all except personal checks, and a majority of the smaller INS local offices accept personal checks BUT not all of them. Most would be wise to check with there local service center and see if they do accept personal checks, or do you have to have certified funds.



Title: Exactly as I stated. Don't know why Dan went Postal...
Post by: Oscar on June 10, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to All good things must come to an end, posted by Jack on Jun 10, 2002

That is all I said myself to set Dan the maytag man off, that yes, the INS does accept personal checks, certainly at all the Service Centers.  I even copied the statement from their web site stating as much!  But not good enough for Dan, the guy goes Postal on me! LOL!
Live and learn..


Title: Careful Now Oscar - Those Latent Insecurities of Yours are Surfacing Again . . .
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Exactly as I stated.  Don't know why Dan..., posted by Oscar on Jun 10, 2002

And we both know what happens then!!!

LOL, LOL, LOL

- Dan



Title: Yadda, yadda, yadda.. Geez, what a bore...
Post by: Oscar on June 10, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Careful Now Oscar - Those Latent Insecur..., posted by Dan on Jun 10, 2002

Can't you be even just a little more entertaining??  We know you certainly can't handle facts, but you are just getting plain boring now.. ;-(

Oh well, you have to make due I suppose...



Title: INS DOES accept personal checks!
Post by: Jack on June 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to what kind of money, posted by snowwego on Jun 5, 2002

I am sorry Snowwego, I don't know what I was thinking, in my mind I am thinking Russian and Ukraine consulate. I have been dealing with them a lot lately with regards to visa's and they will only accept cashiers checks and money orders and I read your inquiry on INS but I am thinking Consulate General. My mistake and I apoligize.

You are correct in that the INS office will accept personal checks as they accepted all of mine.



Title: Nope - Be Careful . . .
Post by: Dan on June 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to INS DOES accept personal checks!, posted by Jack on Jun 6, 2002

When you refer to the INS, you are referring to this huge amorphous indistinct many-tentacled octopus.

While the INS Service Centers do, indeed, accept personal checks - the local field offices (such as the INS office here in Denver) are free to implement local policies for type of payment. Denver - most certainly - does NOT accept personal checks from anyone. The number of people I have seen turned away from the windows - some in tears of frustration from waiting for hours only to be told they can not conclude their business that day - is staggering.

It is owed the the fact that the documents nearly all say it is fine to pay with personal check - but in Denver (at least) - only money orders are accepted. Not a personal check and not cash.

- Dan



Title: INS/Sacramento takes Personal Checks...
Post by: Rags on June 07, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Nope - Be Careful . . ., posted by Dan on Jun 6, 2002

But Dan is right, each field office has it's own rules to play by. Be careful taking advice on the local office practices as they all vary (greatly) from one to another.


Title: Personal checks vs. Money orders
Post by: Vox on June 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to what kind of money, posted by snowwego on Jun 5, 2002

A friend of my father who works at the INS office in the NY area as a supervisor, and who worked for the service more than 25 years (elsewhere also) told me many tricks which are not listed on the official lists, internet or paper.
(Actually it's not in their interest to do it the fastest way, if one petitioner makes a mistake, or has not the best information available, and he file again the additional charges are a gain to the office! -- That's their mentality ultimately, unwritten or confirmed anyway)
He told me how most people shuffling papers there being gov. workers are very uneducated and hard of understanding, if something it's not very clear written or in order it's simply delayed!

About the personal checks, again they don't say that, but once they get them they keep the papers unnecessarily at least two weeks longer before starting processing them, they have a reason, even though they deposit the checks immediately.
While the ones accompanied by a money order are not delayed.
I said, perhaps they want to make sure the checks are covered in the bank, but no, he said, that's not the reason, besides who would dare to send such a check to a federal agency, it's very unlikely, but sending personal check delays the process, guaranteed.
So you have your choice, right there!



Title: Interesting... can you share OTHER tricks?
Post by: MarkInTx on June 07, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Personal checks vs. Money orders, posted by Vox on Jun 6, 2002

I can believe what you say...

What other tricks did your friend share with you?



Title: Re: what kind of money
Post by: RW on June 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to what kind of money, posted by snowwego on Jun 5, 2002

We send personal checks.

Make sure it is for EXACT amount which is required for application. (had a friend who sent it for more than supposed and application was returned)

Good luck,

RW



Title: INS takes money order only.
Post by: John K on June 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to what kind of money, posted by snowwego on Jun 5, 2002

Make the money order out to Immigration and Naturalization Services.  That should take care of you.


Title: That's not true...of course they take checks!...n/t
Post by: Stevo on June 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to INS takes money order only., posted by John K on Jun 5, 2002

ggg


Title: Do you actually know...
Post by: Stevo on June 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to That's not true...of course they take ch..., posted by Stevo on Jun 5, 2002

that from personal experience, or just hearsay?  Unless someone on this list has actually had a personal check rejected (not just told to send in a money order, but actually had a check rejected), then I don't believe this for one minute.

I don't know of a single government entity that doesn't take personal checks...after all, there is PLENTY of time for them to clear :)

Stevo



Title: Yes Steve - I Absolutely, Positively *DO* Know . . .
Post by: Dan on June 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Do you actually know..., posted by Stevo on Jun 5, 2002

And yes, I have the personal experience of the INS in Denver refusing to accept my personal check - on more than one occasion.

Anything else I need to say to convince you?!?

- Dan



Title: Nope - Not in Denver They Don't n/t
Post by: Dan on June 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to That's not true...of course they take ch..., posted by Stevo on Jun 5, 2002

n/t


Title: Re: Nope - Not in Texas They Don't n/t
Post by: Jack on June 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Nope - Not in Denver They Don't   n/t, posted by Dan on Jun 5, 2002

0/0
o
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Title: Re: Re: Nope - Not in Texas They Don't n/t
Post by: snowwego on June 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Nope - Not in Texas They Don't   n/t, posted by Jack on Jun 5, 2002

A friend of mine said he wrote a check to the INS and it went through and he is in the texas area. I just heard from him tonight. THanks for your help


Title: sorry snowwego
Post by: Jack on June 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Nope - Not in Texas They Don't  ..., posted by snowwego on Jun 5, 2002

sorry snow, someone is pulling your leg.

Cashiers checks or money order ONLY.

You can have your friend call me collect, 214 878 9260. I would like to talk with him about this. It's a free call.



Title: Nebraska Accepts checks.
Post by: MNKenr on June 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to sorry snowwego, posted by Jack on Jun 5, 2002

They took my person check for the I-129F petition. Made it out to Immigration and Naturalization Service for $110. They cashed it about 5 days after they sent me the letter saying they recieved my petition. The check clearned and it came with my other checks from my bank. I have the actual check now right in front of me. It was endorsed with type stating the funds from this check are to be deposited into the US Treasury.

I would say the Nebraska Service Center (the one I use) accept personal checks.



Title: Yes They Do, But Some Local Field Offices Do NOT n/t
Post by: Dan on June 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Nebraska Accepts checks., posted by MNKenr on Jun 6, 2002

n/t


Title: Then the ins/doj needs to correct the 129F insts... n/t
Post by: BrianN on June 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to sorry snowwego, posted by Jack on Jun 5, 2002



Title: Yes, They Do - and It Will Do You No Good To Point It Out to the Local INS Office . . .
Post by: Dan on June 06, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Then the ins/doj needs to correct the 12..., posted by BrianN on Jun 5, 2002

They have, and enforce, local policies on payment matters.

It is true that you can send personal checks to the 4 regional INS service centers. Individual local field offices are an entirely different matter and are NOT - repeat NOT - universal in their acceptance of personal checks.

- Dan



Title: Of course...
Post by: BrianN on June 05, 2002, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Nope - Not in Texas They Don't  ..., posted by snowwego on Jun 5, 2002

http://www.ins.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/files/i-129f.pdf

Type or print legibly in ink.
A. Pay by check or money in the exact amount. Make the check
or money order payable to "Immigration and Naturalization
Service," unless:

(modified for humor sake)

 1.  I'm having a bad day, and you're having a good one, in which case you should forget it.

(couldn't resist...).