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Jack, take a look at Absoluteagency.com #A2281251, then compare her to a girl named Valeriya on your web site #0808. Same girl, different name and city. Looks like another example of Absoluteagency and one of the many phonies placed there.

... in response to Hey Jack Bragg, look at this!!, posted by europete on May 7, 2002


I'm confused... (easy to happen, I know)

Is the girl a scammer? Or did some agency grab her photo and reproduce it elsewhere? (and she doesn't even know?)

... in response to I'm confused, posted by MarkInTx on May 8, 2002

Jack is saying that he thinks there is an agency behind all of this versus pointing at the lady.

... in response to Hey Jack Bragg, look at this!!, posted by europete on May 7, 2002

Good work pistol Pete!

This is a very good example of SCAM!

There is no doubt that this young lady lives in Kharkov. Chernvosty is not even close to Kharkov. Chernvosty is in far west Ukraine, Kharkov far east Ukraine. There is no doubt that her name is Valeriya, not Nataliya. And I seriously doubt that she has grown 4 inchs over the last six months, although it is possiable.

The photos on Absolute are the same photos from my site. Look at the wording describing the lady on both sites, almost identical!!!  EXCEPT one major difference. On FirstDream it clearly shows Valeriya is fluent in English. No need for translator or interpreter, right?

On the Absolute site Nataliya it is not stated she is fluent in English, ahhhh, to bad, you will have to use an interpreter and have your letters translated.

Another major difference, seems a lot of guys prefer the tall, slender type. In Absolute she is listed at 5ft 8 inchs and 110 pounds, sounds pretty nice, 110 poinds on a 5ft 8 inch frame.  I have her listed at 5ft 4inchs and 105 pounds. Now look at the photo of her, does that woman look 5ft 8, or 5ft 4?  I'd say she looks closer to 5ft 4.

Pistol what you have brought to our attention is very common with sites like this, Absolute, Kiss.com, American Singles and a few others. I have stated before these sites are filled with scammers after scammers. It is Scam Heaven. This is the reason Dalton and I got into such a big disagreement a year ago. And before guys start telling me it's not true, you found your wife on American Singles, or Kiss.com, it is true that there are some diamonds to be found on sites like this, I have always stated that. There are some diamonds to be found but you will need to tread lightly thru this minefield of scammers. You must either work thru this minefield, or just get lucky. It is free for these scam women and scam agencies to sign up on sites like this. Just submit whatever photo and name you want. Absolute does nothing to check the validity of the ladies who register with them.

There is little doubt in my mind that there is an agency in Chernvosty behind this profile of Valeriya. I don't think it is an individual, but a scam agency. Of course Chernvosty is the home of the scam Queen, Baranova, and this could very well be one of her on going scams.

Maybe if anyone out there has a membership to Absolute you will contact this Nataliya and see what agency will offer to translate your letters. Try not to let the cat out of the bag until we can identify the agency Nataliya is associated with.

... in response to Good work Pete., posted by Jack on May 8, 2002

5' 8" 110 lbs!!! What is she anorexic or something? My old girlfriend was 5'7" 120lbs and she was warned by her doctors that she was underweight. And this was is Russia not North America.

Absolute is a good place to go if you want to learn. I had a membership there for 2 months this winter. There are some good girls there. I'll be meeting one of them fairly soon. But oh boy, do you have to watch what's going on. I'd never written to a scammer until I used Absolute and I hit several very quickly there. I quit even trying to write or respond to pretty girls from Ukraine on that site. Too much of a pain.

... in response to Good work Pete., posted by Jack on May 8, 2002

My wife's cousin recently discovered that match.com will not longer allow women from the FSU to post profiles because of the scamming.  You're correct about other agencies stealing profiles.  After my wife was in America we spent a great deal of time getting her profile removed from agencies she had never heard of.

... in response to Good work Pete., posted by Jack on May 8, 2002

Sign me up for your group tour the last week of September I want to go to Kharkov with you all.  Will you be attending?
Ryan

... in response to What the heck.........Ok Jack, posted by Ryan on May 8, 2002

If I can get my act together, I might see if I can join you :)))

... in response to What the heck.........Ok Jack, posted by Ryan on May 8, 2002

Hello Ryan, this is Jack's doctor. We have taken him to the emergency room, something happened to him after he read your post!

... in response to emergency, posted by Jack on May 8, 2002

You might try breathing into a bag or something.   I’m still playing the scene around this country but I just have to give the Ukraine one more try.  I have to tell you those Houston chicks are crazy….  Houston is way too humid.

... in response to Re: emergency, posted by Ryan on May 8, 2002

Ryan I am ok now, thanks. Breathing into this bag did the trick. What was in that bag anyway? On the outside of the bag was written 'Evidence-Dallas Police Dept.'

... in response to ok now, posted by Jack on May 8, 2002

Yep that works also sticking your head between her legs or I mean your legs, is what I learned someplace...  Oh dude sorry that was the wrong *bag give that back...

*Bagging -Inhaling the vapor through a bag. They spray fumes on a cloth or piece of clothing in the bag then they inhale the vapor.

Texas Humor......
In a crowded city at a crowded bus stop a beautiful young woman was waiting for the bus. She was decked out in a tight leather mini skirt with matching tight leather jacket and boots.

As the bus rolled up and it became her turn to get on the bus she became aware that her skirt was too tight to allow her leg to come up to the height of the bus' first step.

So slightly embarrassed and with a quick smile to the bus driver she reached behind her and unzipped her skirt a little thinking that this would give her enough slack to raise her leg. Again she tried to make the step onto the bus to discover she still could not make the step. So, a little more embarrassed she once again reached behind her and unzipped her skirt a little more. And for a second time she attempted the step and once again, much to her chagrin, she could not raise her leg because of the tight skirt.

So with a coy little smile to the driver she again unzipped the offending skirt to give a little more slack and again was unable to make the step.

About this time the big Texan who was behind her in the line picked her up easily from the waist and placed her lightly on the step of the bus.

Well, she went ballistic and turned on the would-be hero, screeching at him, "HOW DARE YOU TOUCH MY BODY! I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU ARE!"

At this the Texan drawled "Well ma'am, normally I would agree with you, but after you unzipped my fly three times, I kinda figured that we was gettin' mighty well acquainted."

... in response to What the heck.........Ok Jack, posted by Ryan on May 8, 2002

Just wondering so when the hit comes I am not standing next to you…lol  Just kidding…….

... in response to What the heck.........Ok Jack, posted by Ryan on May 8, 2002

Smart move Ryan.  Kharkov is a place swarming with beautiful women - and it is an area fairly pristine.  Good luck.  If things do not work out with my girl I'll be joining you.

... in response to Re: What the heck.........Ok Jack, posted by hockeybrain on May 8, 2002

Yes I have been thinking the same thing for awhile now I have a ticket I need to use this year as I canceled my plans for May 12th.  End of September is a great time for me to travel.

... in response to Hey Jack Bragg, look at this!!, posted by europete on May 7, 2002

I found my lady on 4 different sites!
But she wasn't on Jacks site, so I'm sure that she's not a scammer then right?!?!

... in response to Hey Jack Bragg, look at this!!, posted by europete on May 7, 2002

Girls often have more than one advertisement and the profile may show different cities.  They are trying to get you to visit them by advertising through different agencies.  Some guys won't go to a small remote town but would go to qa major city like Kiev or Moscow.