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Title: A Funny Little Story and Post by: tim360z on March 21, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ....begins about 2 1/2 years ago. I am picking up a buddy and he is running late. He's taking a shower and I am at his coffee table bored. I look through the magazines, Time, penthouse, etc and in the middle of the pile I find this RW Profile Magazine. Most of us know the name. I know nothing about this stuff, but I thumb through it anyway. I look at the pictures and read the agiprop to take a tour. Seems, like a vehicle to get prospects for a tour. But, there are some very beautiful girls in there. I am skeptical of it all. But, there is one girl who is just seeming to be so nice and beautiful. I mean an 11 among 10's. She is 22 and easily one of the best looking girls I have ever seen...and its not a studio shot...more of an everydayday shot. My friend is ready and we go. But, a month goes by and I never forget this one girl. Could this be for real, I wonder???
I recall that I would have to pay this company for this girls address. I was more than niave. After a month of having her rattling around in my brain, I go to my friend and get the companys # and pay for her address...$10 big ones. I write her a letter in English, photo ( simple English) and address it in Russian. "Letter in a Bottle". I forget all about it. 3 weeks later I receive this letter with very precise lettering from Ukraine. She quickly replied and included more everyday photos. This girl is absolutely beautiful and she tells me all about her life and family etc. A very nice girl. I think. I beleived. We exchange about 6 letters each and then...the big silence...I never hear from her again. I know all about her and her family members and like almost everything. I was actually mentally at the point of meeting with her. Like too good to be true and then the door is shut. I chalked it up to experience or something and forgot about it all. And I forgot all about RW's. But, from time to time I would wonder just what had happened to this 1 girl. About 6 months ago I begin communicating with this one very nice girl. She is from the same small city as the girl I had wrote to 2 1/2 years ago, I realize. After I begin receiving postal mail too---I begin to make a connection. I pull the old letters out of my closet and compare things. Like, same last name, same address and same telephone #. Well, well, well. They are sisters and I am now communicating with this wonderful sister (older by 3 years) that the original girl told me about. Its a small world--- and I never let on. In time "B" begins to tell me all about "A", her sister, who is engaged to marry a Ukrainian guy in 3 months or so. She tells me about her sisters heartbreak a short time ago. She tells me how a couple years ago her sisters photo and profile were placed in some American and European RW profile Magazines. The family was astounded at all the postal mail that "A" received, for months...maybe 2 thousand letters in all...maybe 3 thousand. They were kept in a cardboard box. All were opened and some had money. Ho, Ho, Ho. "A" only replied to a few, her sister told me and in a short time had selected 1 to correspond with by mail and email and telephone. It wasn't me. "A" was in love with this 1 guy. An American who in short order professed his undying love for her. This went on for over a year. But, he never showed-up like he said he would. After a year he emailed her and told her he had fallen in love with a girl in his own city and they were getting married in a month. "A" was crushed and heartbroken. What an incredibly nice and absolutely beautiful girl to toss away.. to lead on. She was ready to marry this guy...trusted him and everything. For the whole family it was a very sad story. "A", in time decided to marry a local guy---not a foreign guy. Such a surprise both "B" and "A" had when I finally revealed to "B" that I had communicated with her sister some time ago. I even scanned a couple of her sisters letters and the her postal mailed photos to "B" to prove it. So there would be no doubt. Of course we all had a good laugh about it all. "A" and "B", they are both absolutely beautiful and real. 11's among 10's, but, it is more their inner beauty which is their strenght. The guy who dumped "A", will never know how true and sincere this girls love was for him. It was a very strong commitment which she felt for him. It was true and honest and genuine. But, he led her on and really had no regard for her feelings. I hope some learn a little something from this that when a good RW feels love for you....it is a very strong and true feeling. Title: Re: A Funny Little Story and Post by: Mike on March 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to A Funny Little Story and, posted by tim360z on Mar 21, 2002
Tim, if I was in your shoes it would drive me crazy just setting here writing letters to her and developing a friendship. I would go there and say hello to her face and tease her with your personality, have a good time as if you were on any vacation and then you could kill several birds with one stone. I'm guessing but a one week vacation from start to finish could be done for $2000. Who knows, maybe you'll meet other ladies while you are there, but the main thing is if this girl has it in her head to marry and move here someone may step in front of you. I bet you would have no problems finding an apartment to stay in and anything else you want just through the recomendations and advice of others here on this forum. Mike Title: Probably, I should mention that Post by: tim360z on March 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: A Funny Little Story and, posted by Mike on Mar 22, 2002
I am not, at this moment in time all-charged up about marriage to anyone. There is no big rush or clock ticking. When I do go I would like to spend about 3 or 4 weeks and really see the country and go to St. Pete and Moscow. Not quite the grand tour, but a schedule which suits my interests. If my prime focus was marriage right away---I would plan differently. I myself do not understand how some can spend a week there with 1 girl and consider marriage. If I spent a week here or 6 months here with 1 girl---I would not be thinking marriage. Its really quite a good idea to know the person quite well that one is considering to marry, I think. But that is definitely not sure fire. Now, I do also beleive the opposite can happen...one could spend a week or 2 and feel great and get married. Lifes a funny thing. I think you have to go with your gut feelings and thoughts in this. This particuliar girl "B"....she has a very nice life and family life and job and...not some poor Ukrainian girl. The family is not rich---but they are not poor either. It would really be very difficult for her to leave her life there. Title: now is the best time Post by: KenC on March 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Probably, I should mention that, posted by tim360z on Mar 22, 2002
Tim, Everything you say equates to now being the best time to meet "B". You "met" a gorgous woman that really interests you. Why would you not want to take the next step? The next step is meeting her in person, not proposing to her. "B's" situation is great too. Her good life will take all the alterier motives out of the mix. Take your extended Russian tour some other time. Go meet her in person! Your situation is very similar to mine 3 1/2 years ago. Lena had a good life in Russia and had no desire to leave. We were both enjoying our lives but neither of us had found anyone special. The difference is that we both believe that it was our fate to be with each other and we ACTED on the opportunity. How could you possibly not act on something that could be so right? Don't you fear that you may lose the opportunity of a lifetime? GO! KenC Title: Re: now is the best time Post by: Mike on March 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to now is the best time, posted by KenC on Mar 22, 2002
I understand you're not in a hurry. Trust me, I was in no hurry either when I went to Moscow! I got lucky and met a keeper by pure luck on my first trip, and she was not searching or hungry to leave, anyway Ken stated what I ment. Really just take a trip and see before you get seriouse about it. I don't know about you, but I can't count the times I said to myself " aaa I'll get something later" and when you wanted it danged if it wasn't the hardest thing to find. Ken is correct meeting a girl that doesn't care if she stays or goes is the best! You'll never set and wonder ( like I'm sure many men do ) does she like me or does she like what I can provide her with. I do know one thing, a one week trip will be worth its weight in gold, maybe not now but later you'll know what to do and what not to do, and many other things you learn on your first trip. Think of it as scouting for your real trip, but take advantage of this oportunity while it still presents itself. Mike Title: Thanks for your advice Ken... Post by: tim360z on March 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to now is the best time, posted by KenC on Mar 22, 2002
but timing is also a very important thing. This month would be far to quick...to fast. With a new friendship like this there is a mutual give and take and communication etc. I watch how things develop...and like I mentioned...this is a new friendship. Thats all, for now--the near future---who knows??? ACTING pre-maturely in a given situtation is just as bad as acting too slowly or not acting at all. Thanks for your input. Title: That's true, but let her know a vacation there has been on your mind Post by: Mike on March 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Thanks for your advice Ken..., posted by tim360z on Mar 22, 2002
I see the picture a little better now. Anyway just wanting to help ya out. I hope you can find a happy middle ground and go after this one before someone else does. Mike Title: Re: Well? Post by: Quasimoto on March 21, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to A Funny Little Story and, posted by tim360z on Mar 21, 2002
Well? Well? What is the scoop? Are you still with girl B or what? Have you or are you going to see her? I know a guy married to a Filipino who is writing to 3 RWs right now. He disgusts me! He has not one bit of consideration for the ladies. Steve Title: Scoop? consideration? Guy married to a Filipiana Post by: tim360z on March 21, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Well?, posted by Quasimoto on Mar 21, 2002
who is writing to 3 different RW's.??? Where is all this coming from Quasi? I'm lost. I would have to say the aforementioned guy is a jerk. What that has to do with me I just don't know...at this moment...maybe I am missing something??? The girl "B" and I have a friendship. There has slowly been a growing mutual attraction...but we will each see. The real friendship w/o all the marriage stuff is very important to her. She would be the wrong girl to throw all that marriage stuff at anyway...she would think I'm just another foreign guy wanting to marry a Ukrainian girl. At this point, I do not feel strongly enough to jet over just to meet her...but in the future...who knows? I think a mutual friendship is the best foundation...for anything. Title: On the other hand.... Post by: LP on March 21, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to A Funny Little Story and, posted by tim360z on Mar 21, 2002
.....On a different note (and in keeping with my pointing out the bad I've seen), I personally know a guy who took over a year to develop an FSU relationship. After much fussing he finally started the K1. He then started paying for all the expenses, paid for her to live and even paid some outstanding debts she had in country, all in preparation of bringing her over. He did a lot of work to get ready for her at his home, wanting to leave very little to chance. He was positive she loved him. After waiting 6 months, just prior to the interview, she disappeared and refused answer his pleas. He was a real mess over it, not only because of what happened, but because he may never know *why*. Scammer? Perhaps, but my opinion is she just got cold feet. It happens. Remember, be careful what you wish for, ect. She wasn't careful about what she wished for and it came true. At least she could have closed the loop with him, explained why. Poor guy, being in love with an MIA fiance can be a real soul killer. Last I knew, he never heard from her again. Although this is the only instance I know about for sure, I've read of it happening to others also. But I know him, he'll start all over again. A guy after my own heart, he sticks with stuff. He is beat but not beaten. Are you listening Ryan? Someone, somewhere, always has it worse, eh? Be grateful, for there but the grace of God.... The moral is you just never know what some of these chix are gonna do, no matter what "love" they profess. Still, you should never stop pushing the frontline forward, just be sure to keep your head down. Title: Re: On the other hand.... Post by: micha1 on March 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to On the other hand...., posted by LP on Mar 21, 2002
You stated that, you personally know the guy. Let me guess. LP. Perhaps I shall meet that person, soon, in Montréal or in Normandie. There are things that are not easy to write, I know. Title: Say what?... Post by: LP on March 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: On the other hand...., posted by micha1 on Mar 22, 2002
...lol, no Monsewer, you'd be wrong there. But I would love to see Normany :-) Title: Works both ways, no doubt about it---no Post by: tim360z on March 21, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to On the other hand...., posted by LP on Mar 21, 2002
wonder Shakespeare can still be relevant today, although little else of his time still is. The heart, love, the human condition. A sword can cut both ways...eh! Horatio. Timeless. Title: Cool story since it is story time......I have one.. Post by: Ryan on March 21, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to A Funny Little Story and, posted by tim360z on Mar 21, 2002
My mother tries to fix me up… last week Quite a change writing to American women after writing to Russian women for 2-1/2 years. I think I have really learned something. Ok so this is a girl my mother tried to fix me up with… God bless her heart she means well… Mom writes: So I write to this girl, anyway I wrote the girl and after three letters I had to write my mother back with an update… Hi Mom...Just an Update She love, love, loves, baseball (Especially the Tigers) but has never been to the new Comerica park to see just one game. (It has been open now for 2-1/2 years, I have been to two games, and really don’t care much for sports at all) No not a big issue. She likes golf too even though she has never played before, and her brother is a golf-pro at Farris University and will be a golf pro someday. (Ever been to Farris University? I have, not a big golf school there in Big Rapids) Ok just a minor point… She also likes Softball, great no problems here. From three letters, she went from ------College to Eastern, She wanted to be an Architect, none of these schools offered that program so she has her Bachelors in Economics, and she is starting her Masters in the fall. She also went to the Vo-tech school to learn CAD. Before all of this she wanted to go to law school at Tulane but ended up deciding not to go because I couldn't move that far from my family….LOL (Sorry just found that funny) Now the good stuff. Quote about her job. “I'm either bored out of my mind, or so stressed out that I don't even want to wake up in the morning. (Big Red Flag) I could go on and on about my work drama.” (Maybe she could stay home and work on arts and crafts) It bothers her when people chew their food out loud or snap on their gum in their mouth and she hates people that lye as she has had some bad experience with that. Oh ya she was at the Croswell theatre on time to see her brother in the wizard of Oz. Nice try mom... Mom writes back: Lesson: 24 is a girl in the U.S.A. and a women in Russia/Ukraine Title: I liked your story Post by: BubbaGump on March 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Cool story since it is story time......I..., posted by Ryan on Mar 21, 2002
It's sad, but so typical. Reminds me of my parents. Title: Re: I liked your story Post by: Mike on March 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I liked your story, posted by BubbaGump on Mar 22, 2002
My mom would tell her friends " NO your daughter deserves better" and wouldn't wish any of her friends daughters on me. I might add my mom goes to church about 10 times a week and so does her friends, and she is sure I'll go to heII one day because I don't go to church. But I think it is typical when someone tries to fix up a single man they are not so focused on what we men are looking for but seem to be more interested in helping some dumpling solve her single problem. Mike Title: Wake UP! Solving dumpling problems is what men are for... Post by: Clay on March 22, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: I liked your story, posted by Mike on Mar 22, 2002
or didn't you get the memo! ;-) LOL Clay |