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Title: Post below and others.... Post by: Ryan on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM She said if she knew my dogs didn't live outside when she was corresponding with you, she would never have continued the correspondence? Are these women really like this? Are they so stuck on themselves and above everyone and everything that little things like this would set them off? (You know what I mean) Like the woman that was disrespectful to that other guy because he didn't take off her coat before untying his shoes. You know everyone I have been into my search for 2 years now and the more I do this the more I feel like I am just not the type of person cut out for all this... I have my vacation set for this May I will be in the Ukraine and I have been writing a few women, (Bored as hell doing it...same old crap talking to one is like talking to the next, young little girls wanting older men.. All I see is money signs in their eyes. Whom are they fooling? I am tired...) but you know I am just going to go and hang out, have a good time, as I really like Kiev. However; I am not willing to put up with what some of you guys put up with. (Probably why I am still single at 35, but seeing what I see my friends go through with their wives, I will stay right where I am)
I got into this whole process by chance one-day 2 years back. I seen this woman on a singles web site (Not a marriage agency) and just started writing. I fell head over heals for her (No she was no knock out, See her on scammer pages at Jacks firstdream.com her name is Ulia Ponomarinko from Luganks two pics of her...) I went to see her and stayed with her family. She ended up scamming me out of a bunch of money. I was nothing but a gentleman and a nice guy the whole time. Why did she want to hurt someone like me, why? You know I am just not into this anymore... Title: Re: Post below and others.... Post by: Clay on March 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Post below and others...., posted by Ryan on Mar 11, 2002
Ryan, Judging by this post and some of your posts above, it's time to take a 'Time-Out'. Quit thinkin' about this process so much, and relax a little. Your bitternees level is very high right now (it takes one to know one). I've had to stick my hands in a meat-grinder once or twice to avoid cutting loose with a bitter diatribe. I'll bet that most guys would eventually admit that they are here because of that same bitterness. The one that can ONLY be caused by those who are supposed to be made of sugar and spice and everything nice, after they hand your heart to you on a stick... Not all women are bad (mebbe most, but not all ;-)) I see it all around me as well. Couples pretending they got it together. Then you get your buddy out by himself, put a few drinks in him, and WHOA! is the reality ever different. Fact is, it's pretty much a blind shot in the dark with RW or AW - IMO. Only 50% of those 'I Do's' go the long haul, now tell me there isn't a problem somewheres... I first read about this whole idea of a Foreign Wife, and it sounded so dreamy and nice. Then I found this board, and read more. Then I realized this process is just as hard whether it be done at home or abroad. The difference I personally keep reminding myself of, is that Russian/Asian/Latino women really are different in certain attitudes and perceptions (No feminista upbringing, which in my opinion is the rut cause of many issues which arise with AW). Hopefully these attitudes will make a difference over the long run. Fact is women are women across the entire Time-Space continuum. Heheheh... Read the stories in the bible about Abraham's son Isaac and his wife (now there was a conniving woman!!), or Samson and Delilah (Imagine how he felt when she did what she did!). We're not the first or the last to deal with it all... Not trying to slam ya, just trying to observe that you sound as wrung out as a cheap washcloth, and it's bad for your mental and spiritual health - which translates into physical health in pretty short order. The only thing you can control is your perspective and attitude, and it sounds like you need to recharge the batteries, and find a way to regain them... Just a few comments from the peanut gallery... Clay Title: I'll buy you a Slavutich in Kiev Post by: Ramblin on March 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Post below and others...., posted by Ryan on Mar 11, 2002
Maybe I'll see you in Kiev this May. Ramblin. Title: Ok what is a Slavutich........n/t Post by: Ryan on March 12, 2002, 05:00:00 AM Title: good tasting high alcohol beer so Post by: Ramblin on March 13, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Ok what is a Slavutich........n/t, posted by Ryan on Mar 12, 2002
that is why just one. Title: Re: Post below and others.... Post by: BubbaGump on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Post below and others...., posted by Ryan on Mar 11, 2002
Ryan, You can hunt around for American women and look for EE women discretely at the same time. Search extensively through the profiles and find a girl with the most compatible profile. Everybody should expect to make mistakes, learn from them and try again. I want kids too and I don't think this is my best choice to have them. A friend of mine was telling me about the problems between his friend and his new Russian wife. Things are working out with time though. At first she would lay around all day and do nothing but she's starting to get out more now and work around the house. She takes criticism real hard and has maybe too much pride. He's having a hard time teaching her how to drive. Title: Whoops Post by: BubbaGump on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Post below and others...., posted by BubbaGump on Mar 11, 2002
I meant to say this is probably my best chance to have kids. Title: I think you made your Post by: Natalya on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Post below and others...., posted by Ryan on Mar 11, 2002
choice when start corresponding with young girls.So why complaining now? You didn't look for woman your age therefore deal with boring young girls and don't complain. Title: Re: Older Women Post by: Charles on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I think you made your, posted by Natalya on Mar 11, 2002
I think Natasha is right, you should focus on women in your age bracket, and maybe even a year or two older. There are plenty of good ones out there that I know personally. You'll just have to keep trying. Title: I think I made my... Post by: Ryan on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to I think you made your, posted by Natalya on Mar 11, 2002
What I meant to say is that when I placed an add in your Ukraine newspaper all I got was young girls replying to my adds. It was sort of a joke. I want nothing more than to find one my age... Either way yes they are boring to write to... Just my experience... I want family, I want children.. I want... I want.. Ya well so do I..Da.. Title: Sounds like a reasonable course Post by: greg2 on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Post below and others...., posted by Ryan on Mar 11, 2002
Right Ryan, that is the stable intelligent thing to do - to go from one extreme to the other. Go from being a gentleman to a jerk because you were made a fool of. Don't take responsibility for your decisions and choices. Go ahead punish and criticize others for your misfortune. Title: Re: Sounds like a reasonable course Post by: Ryan on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Sounds like a reasonable course, posted by greg2 on Mar 11, 2002
I am taking responsibility for my choices that is exactly why I am choosing to really take a look at this whole little game we are playing and wake up. From reading some of these posts I am starting to see who wears the pants in some of these Russian/American marriages. I am starting to see what type of American man it takes to make these marriages work and I feel that I don't really fit into that mold. You either have to be rich as hell and throw money at the problems or sit back and be pushed around. Don't get me wrong I am not a dominate character but it will be the day when I live my life or set my life aside to be someone's entertainment. Criticize others for your misfortune? I have not even started that yet.. For someone to be so cold and heartless as this woman from the Ukraine takes something that I have never seen the likes of in this country. Title: Women Post by: hockeybrain on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Sounds like a reasonable course, posted by Ryan on Mar 11, 2002
I see you are venting about the learning process. Imagine if you could find a woman with a strong personality who is working for you - now wouldn't that be great? Title: Re: Re: Sounds like a reasonable course Post by: greg2 on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Sounds like a reasonable course, posted by Ryan on Mar 11, 2002
Oh yes it is here in the good ole USA and everywhere. But, more desperate situations bring out more of it. Just common sense. You are saying that you have to be rich or be pushed around? That is more true relative to AW than RW IMHO. Hey Ryan, I am not discounting that there are predator women in the FSU. There are a lot of them and you have to accept that. Get over it. It does not have anything to do with the women who are not like this. I talked with this one FSU lady. The guy came over, told her he loved her - it turned out it was nothing but a sex tour for him with her being on the list. She was humiliated and devastated. At that point she decided to get back at foreign men and take them for what she could get. I told her that this was a piss poor attitude but, it did not mater to her. Now, I would not want you to become like her - because your attitude suggests to me that you could. Yes, this is not for everyone. You access the terrain and ask if it is worth it to you to take the chances/risks involved to come home with the woman that you would most likely not find in the USA - taking the risk of finding your worst nightmare in disguise of this woman. Title: Post below and others.... Post by: Jack on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Post below and others...., posted by Ryan on Mar 11, 2002
Ryan, why you dog you. So it was oh sweet Ulia who got to you. She sure looks sweet and innocent doesn't she? Ryan really you shouldn't stop posting. By expressing and writing of your experiences, you do help other guys. We all make mistakes and many guys don't share there screw-ups with others, much less the world. To your credit you have shared much of your experience, the good and the bad. Yes, sometimes you write crazy things, but most of us do, I know I have. And sometimes when you write some of your crazy things some here may call you a dummy, but you are our dummy. Title: Re: Post below and others.... Post by: Ryan on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Post below and others...., posted by Jack on Mar 11, 2002
Ya ya... Hey you took me off from your references page at your site. I thought the "Running the Gantlet," comment was a classic... So have you heard from Howard (lordrandom) about a year back I found his website first before I knew anything about this stuff. He told me I was crazy for sending money and I didn't believe him. He sent me to this board back then. So do you know if he is still married? He has a great trip report one of the best... Title: Post below and others.... Post by: Jack on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Post below and others...., posted by Ryan on Mar 11, 2002
Ryan, I made it onto Russian TV in late 1997 and early 98. Great exposure, supposely the second most popular show in Russia at the time. I have not heard anything from Howard for sometime but I don't think I knew this Howard fella. Hey Ryan, by chance are you on medication and today you didn't take your medication? You seem to have a lot of days where your personalty change from one extreme to another. Title: Re: Post below and others.... Post by: Ryan on March 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM ... in response to Post below and others...., posted by Jack on Mar 11, 2002
No I am not on medication just on this roller coaster of a process I have gotten myself into, but I know what you mean. Sometimes I just get fed up with this crap other times I can deal with it. Like I said maybe I an not cut out for this stuff, as they say I am still in the easiest phase and when you get them here the real challenge starts. This Howard fella I was referring to wrote a nice letter to you and it is posted on your references page of your web site but you haven't heard from him... Neither have I wondering if he is still married or not and how it was going he was a real down to earth type guy... |