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To you guys who have had a few trips there, is some Victorias Secret lotion an ok gift for a girls Mother??  Sounded ok to me..

For the girls, they also have these great little gift sets at Victorias that has their 4 top perfumes in small bottles and it's great because they come in a nice flat little box, rally good for packing, just $24!  Quite a good deal.  I bought a few of those..

Also a couple of simple stirling silver necklaces for a couple of girls..

Also taking a few of the small Winter Olympic stuffed mascots for the kidlets too.. All the Olympic stuff is pretty much on sale here in Salt Lake now..

Any other ideas that go over well??

Best regards,
Oscar

... in response to Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Oscar on Feb 13, 2002

Oscar, I agree that you'll impress RW with Christian Dior, Lancome, Shiseido and Chanel .But do you really want to do this?This way you'll atract attention more from scammers than honest women because of your outrageously expensive gifts. If you after " good time with some hottie" that's the way to go. Otherwise if you're looking for down-to earth RW Victoria Secret whould do just fine. Expensive perfume would be apropriate for woman you know close enough, not for the first time meeting.IMHO

... in response to Re: Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Natalya on Feb 14, 2002

Like the Mayfly I have to hurry up, mate and die. :-)

... in response to Re: Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Natalya on Feb 14, 2002

First, I would not give a gift to every woman I meet.  I would only give some nice gifts to a woman I felt I was going to really match with.  
And if she thinks that the Victorias Secrets scents are beneath her for some reason, (have no idea why a woman would turn her nose up at award winning scents like them)   it's to the curb with her!  I wouldn't stand for being married to such a snob! ;-)

Thanks for your opinion..

Later,
Oscar

... in response to Natalya-, posted by Oscar on Feb 14, 2002

These women have never heard of Victoria secrets, or Bed and Bath or whatever. You must either get them something they've heard of, or buy anything that you want, but that brand means nothing to them. You can chose to impress them, or you can just give them a token gift that's up to you.
Mike

... in response to But, posted by Mike on Feb 15, 2002

think RW don't know Victoria Secrets stuff.Hmmmmm. I had lingerie by VS 6 years ago already.

... in response to I wonder why do you, posted by Natalya on Feb 15, 2002

Before I went to Moscow for the first time I took with me Bed and bath gifts for any ladies I would find interesting and to give to some girls that were to help me with a few things, anyway every time I gave them the gifts I told them that it is nice stuff in America and explained that the company is owned by Victoria Secrets. None of the 5 ladies I gave these gifts to had ever heard of either company. Others have also posted the same thing on here ( I think )
Mike

... in response to You may be one of the few ??, posted by Mike on Feb 15, 2002

Sounds lovely, Mike ;)

... in response to You may be one of the few ??, posted by Mike on Feb 15, 2002

...Victoria's Secret in Red Square, in that large dept. store.

... in response to You may be one of the few ??, posted by Mike on Feb 15, 2002

If so I never heard this name either until I came here.I was talking Victoria Secrets.

... in response to Natalya-, posted by Oscar on Feb 14, 2002

Red.  That stuff kills.  Been around a few years, but it's absolutely killer for a man that enjoys female consumption...

... in response to Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Oscar on Feb 13, 2002

My wife is what would be considered the higher society of Russia and her opinion about T-shirts, or Victoria secrets ( which could be K-mart items and they wouldn't know the difference)are not so impressive. If you want to impress them go to one of your nicer stores in your area and buy European perfumes such as Christian Dior, Chanel,Davidoff, or Clinque (some may not be European?? but very popular! )
Mike --- who also took Bed and Body works to give girls there, and didn't see too many impressed faces.

... in response to Re: Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Mike on Feb 14, 2002

lol, Mike - you wife shall know that different women preffer different parfumes..... some rusmen still do that - present ANY expensive perfume and then you have 2 think - who from females you know may like it?  It's funny, leaving aside that such a present will not make a girl happy.
Plus i didn't see any desire(of the men here) to IMPRESS a RW - the main idea is how to get is as cheap as possible.......get something 4 nuffing
Sometimes i like the results of your economy and attitude :))

... in response to Re: Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Mike on Feb 14, 2002

Two of them, "Divine" and "Heavenly", both happen to have placed in the top 5 scents for two years running.  A little FYI..

Oscar..

... in response to About Victorias Secret scents-, posted by Oscar on Feb 14, 2002

n/t

... in response to About Victorias Secret scents-, posted by Oscar on Feb 14, 2002

Sounds better than baseball caps for my babe I guess.  I just have a hard time deciphering what smells good on one will be enjoyed by another (me damit).  My old time favorite has got to be that good old vanilla thing from a few years back, and then to go back to the 70's... what was it... can't think of the name, but it's still made though.

Kind of like some old music that never wears out.

aha.

... in response to Re: Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Mike on Feb 14, 2002

but could you tell me please reasons why your wife consider herself higher society in Russia? Just interested.....

... in response to Mike, no offense, posted by Natalya on Feb 14, 2002

Actually that is more my perception then hers. She didn't watch me type that post or she would have said something because she doesn't like it when I talk highly of her. Anyway she lived her life in Moscow dealing with the people that had power and made her own money and owns 4 flats. She does everything first class, She is highly educated, speaks Turkish, French, English, and Russian. (wink) She traveled abroad frequently, and just things that on average are not so common among the average ladies I noticed. She is a business lady and her friends and associates are very well off as far as money is concerned, and her circle of friends knows expensive things when they see it, and would think a T-shirt would appear as a cheap gift. I hope I didn't offend anyone.
Mike

... in response to Re: Mike, no offense, posted by Mike on Feb 14, 2002

I'd say your wife is a well educated and welthy by Russian standarts woman. But you know I had met many women as educated as your wife but unfortunately not as welthy.It's just happens to be that your wife is more lucky than the rest.IMHO words "higher society" lost their true meaning since  Revolution in 1917.Right now there are alot of rich new Russians who are proud to be part of Russian higher society and very powerful people but they simply can't put 2 words together because lack of their education.Many of these people have criminal past and still envolved in criminal activities.Thats how they make their money.So as you see Russian higher society is very interesting subject to discuss ;)

... in response to Thank you ,Mike! I was just curious., posted by Natalya on Feb 14, 2002

I agree about the new Russians and how they get their money! My wife made a lot of her money working as a translator, or as a go between for different companies in different countries. She would either get money as a reward for securing a big project, or kick backs by providing information to other contractors so they could bid on projects and things like that depending on what she was working on at the time. She and another girl once got a few thousand just to count 18 million in bribe money!
Mike

... in response to Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Oscar on Feb 13, 2002

On my trip, I took 4 sets of items from Bath & Body Works. Matching lotion, bubble bath, etc. They have 6-8 products for each of their scents. These went over VERY WELL.

I also have access to a lot of stuffed animals because I own a carnival game concession. I have a semi-trailer filled with this stuff and I took over a bag of Teddy Bears. They loved them!

The other popular gift was Yankee Candles. Go with the "buttercream" flavor.

... in response to Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Oscar on Feb 13, 2002

Many perfumes (por cooies) can be brought in Ukraine.  I sugest get them something that represents you home town/country   T-Shirts for kids (Barbie dolls for girls is great (depends on their age 7-10) Salt Lake City gifts good as many will be watching the Winter Games...  Again all the best.  When do you leave??

... in response to Get something that is related of your ho..., posted by jj on Feb 13, 2002

Hi jj,

I leave on the 22nd..  It should be fun!  I'm writing to some nice girls..

And yes, I am taking some Olympic stuff, like pins etc..

Later,
Oscar

... in response to Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Oscar on Feb 13, 2002

but the things that were enjoyed the most were the things that were regional to where you live. The olympic gifts are great, as well as the perfumes. I'm from Hawaii, so I brought some Kona coffee, mac-nuts and some island print sarongs.
But like the saying goes. its the thought that counts...aloha

... in response to Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Oscar on Feb 13, 2002

if the family has a dacha seed packets go over real well..even take over some potatoes from the supermarket
U will suprise the s--t out of them...

... in response to Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Oscar on Feb 13, 2002

My wife Oxana loves anything from Victoria Secret.  Anything which shows it is from America, eg. caps, t-shirts, the Olympic stuff you mentioned would be an excellent choice. I took over several US dollar and half-dollar coins for the kids - they loved them. Another gift that went over very well was a mini Leatherman tool. Hope this helps...

... in response to Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Oscar on Feb 13, 2002

The Russia Journal - www.russiajournal.com - has an article that lists some popular gifts, along with prices (in Moscow).  The title of the article is: "St. Valentine's flowers."

Tea or coffee might be good gifts for the family.  My wife says that most Russians can't afford good imported coffee or tea.  The quality of the Russian brands is poor.  She says that Russian coffee tastes and smells like dirty water.  Even the generic supermarket brands here are better.

... in response to Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Oscar on Feb 13, 2002

Oscar,
This reply is about gifts but not necessarily for girls. I found sons, brothers, and friends of ladies I knew really got a lot of enjoyment from playing frisbee. Not something real common in Ukraine so on my last trip I took 6 of them with me to give as gifts; 3 normal frisbees and 3 flat flying rings, and of course had to show them how they were used. They were very well received.
Just something for your consideration.

... in response to Re: Question regarding gifts for girls-, posted by Pete on Feb 13, 2002

Sounds like a good "simple" idea; I'm looking for the simpler things like this.  Who the hell should give a rats but about Victoria's secret, when I live in a middle america house and lifestyle?  

I wish that RW Wife and Oksana and the rest of the RW that post here would respond to this thread, to provide some REAL clues as to what is appreciated, in the long term.

As in simple things like can openers, or whatever - those that will be remembered forever, because they actually last forever.  Oh well.

All that bs said Pete, you should register, instead of posting anonymously.

There's nothing to fear, after all, even the registered trolls her get away with murder..... (no I don't consider you one, just that it's time to get it over with).

... in response to Normal thing..., posted by BrianN on Feb 14, 2002

Well Brian, Victoria Secret small set of perfume or stuff from Bath & Body works would be a nice gift.My husband brought few baseball caps with him and my men relatives just loved it! Toys for kids would do just fine. I only can say that seeds for the garden or even potatoes wouldn't impress me even would hurt my feelings.My husband left with me his camera (not expensive kind 20-30$) and I cherished this gift alot. I made alot of pictures using his camera while we were apart.

... in response to Re: Normal thing..., posted by Natalya on Feb 14, 2002

I am taking a few Olympic Winter Games baseball caps from Salt Lake City!  I think they will be a big hit!  They are very cool caps!

Oscar

... in response to Natalya-, posted by Oscar on Feb 14, 2002

:)

... in response to Re: Normal thing..., posted by Natalya on Feb 14, 2002

Thanks for the tip...  I like the practicality of baseball caps.  Hmmm, wonder how my babe would look in a yankees hat.  (just kidding).