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I have a professional portable cassette recorder, Marantz PMD222, but I never used it to tape telephone conversations (so as to be able to listen to my talks with my girl later).
What exactly do I need in terms of phone adaptors, and how do I manage to tape with this machine?
I have a direct regular telephone jack, also a (3.5 mm phone) microphone jack, (which is mentioned about about telephone) in it. Unfortunately the manual does not describe the procedure.
It's a technical question, and with so many diff. technical specialists around I'm sure some would know and let me know how to do it in detail!
Thanks!!!

... in response to How do I record my telephone conversatio..., posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

Thanks a lot to everybody!
This item, Recording Control, #43-228, is exactly what I need, with it I can use my machine perfectly.
As about dealing with the laws, don't worry guys, all is well there, I knew about that.
I'm not interested to collect evidence on my girl.
We both love each other very very much, she is an absolute stunner in every possible way, she loves me madly, (like I do) and she is definitely a keeper, and very very much so.
We just want to have these beautiful conversations for us for later, to keep them and be able to listen to them years from now, as well as so I can see if I missed anything that she said.

... in response to How do I record my telephone conversatio..., posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

In the United States, the laws about recording telephone conversations vary from state to state. In some states, it is legal if at least one party to the conversation is aware of the recording. In others, both parties must be made aware. I have no idea about International law.

Generally speaking, I would say that as long as your lady is fully aware that you are recording her conversations and has no problem with it, you shold be ok. But many people are uncomfortable about having conversations recorded, even in friendly situations. So be careful, and please be sure your lady understands what you want to do and why.

Just my advice...

... in response to Radioshack.Com, Search for: 43-228   n/t, posted by BrianN on Feb 14, 2002

Thanks a lot to everybody!
This item, Recording Control, #43-228, is exactly what I need, with it I can use my machine perfectly.
As about dealing with the laws, don't worry guys, all is well there, I knew about that.
I'm not interested to collect evidence on my girl.
We both love each other very very much, she is an absolute stunner in every possible way, she loves me madly, (like I do) and she is definitely a keeper, and very very much so.
We just want to have these beautiful conversations for us for later, to keep them and be able to listen to them years from now, as well as so I can see if I missed anything that she said.

... in response to That's the winner!, posted by Vox on Feb 16, 2002


=== We just want to have these beautiful conversations for us
=== for later, to keep them and be able to listen to them years
=== from now, as well as so I can see if I missed anything
=== that she said.

I know, different strokes for different folks,  and all that,
but this sounds nuts to me.  You are going to sit around
and relive the conversations of your courtship?  
All you will have evidence of, in the end, is how often you
spoke for the benefit of the recording, rather than to your girl.
Better to devote your efforts to renewed expressions of love and
affection than to try and bottle the old ones.

As to missing a word or two: worry more about missing the moment.
Trust your girl to repeat the stuff you missed.  Probably she will
repeat herself a lot.  Most people do.

... in response to How do I record my telephone conversatio..., posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

Many years ago I was a Radio Shack manager. We had a very simple little device that went onto a phone with a suction cup and then into the mic jack of any tape recorder. A lot of the stuff we sold was crap, but this gadget was an exception. It worked great and was only about two bucks. I don't know if they still have it and what it goes for now. Probably about $5. It's legal if the other party knows he is being recorded.

... in response to How do I record my telephone conversatio..., posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

Just ti let you know that it is illegal to record telephone conversations in some countries... sure it can be done and under some laws if all parties are aware abd know about it.  Un most cases their is a requirement that a recording device need to produce an audiable beep that periodiacllu sounds to remind both parties that their conversation isbeing recorded...

... in response to It is illegal to record telephone conver..., posted by jj on Feb 14, 2002

I once or twice heard that as long as one member of the conversation ( you ) is aware of the recording taking place then it is leagle here, compared to recording others having a private conversation. As for their country who cares about their laws when they can't do anything about it.
Mike

... in response to Are you sure ?, posted by Mike on Feb 14, 2002

You are correct. Recording one's own conversation with another is legal in all 50 states (technically, it would be unconstitutional for a state to outlaw it). It is only wire tapping that is illegal - listening to and/or recording the telephone conversations of other people. However, cordless telephones do not carry the same expectation of privacy according to some court decisions. So far cell communications do.

... in response to Re: sure ?, posted by WmGo on Feb 14, 2002

Hasn't Alabama banned recording any conversations unless both parties know about it?  I think that was resulting from a football scandal at the University of Alabama with Gene Jelks.  And what about Maryland with that Clinton scandal over recorded phone conversations.

... in response to I think there is an exception in 1 state..., posted by BubbaGump on Feb 15, 2002

No, I can assure you that it is legal in Alabama to record your own conversation with another person. But you do have a good memory about college sports - there *was* some discussion after the Jelks saga in Tuscaloosa - and a prior incident involving payments to Auburn player Eric Ramsey(who recorded himself begging an assistant coach for money and the coach griping that he couldn't do it and finally caving in )about changing the law, but nothing ever came of it (except probation for Auburn in the early 90s and Alabama in the mid 90s).

I am not familiar with the Maryland case. I am not sure scandal and illegal follow each other though.

I would not be surprised if there was a state or two that bans the practice.

... in response to Re:  exception in 1 state, posted by WmGo on Feb 15, 2002

It is legal for a telephone conversation to be recorded as long as one party in the conversation is aware that it is being recorded.

Maryland requires all parties to be aware, hence the sham prosecution of Linda Tripp over the "Monica" tapes.

-blm

... in response to In Texas..., posted by BarryM on Feb 15, 2002

Thanks....Tripp and Monica - what a trip, really makes the country look good.

... in response to Re: sure ?, posted by WmGo on Feb 14, 2002

I assure you in Australia and Canadia it is illegal unless both parties are aware that the conversation is being recorded.  The deviced used MUST generate a signal tone that is sounded periodically (I think every minute) that reminds the participants to the call that the call is being recorded.  Now as to how and under what circumstances this is detected is another question.  I do know that when you are being intervied by the media over the phone that the recording equipment used provide for this tone generation.  My answering machine also generates this tone.  It is my assumption that this can become an issue if you seek to rely on information recorded as evidence or the basis of any dispute,,, such as a divorce ect,  In which case if both partoies have not agreed and the devise used does not conform then the information is not admissable...

If on dount chech with a reputable phone supply company.  I assume that this is covered by international conventions related to telecommunications..  It may not apply in the FSU but I would think the USA would have such legislation to protect business deals if nothing else,,

... in response to Re: Re: sure ?, posted by jj on Feb 14, 2002

I don't know what Canadian or Australian law is on these subjects. But I take your word for it.

... in response to Re: Re: sure ?, posted by jj on Feb 14, 2002

If the divorce is filed here it would seem that only American laws would apply. If you record your wife and her lover ( for example ) I suspect you couldn't use that in court, but if you could keep your cool you would be able to liquidate everything and sell ( very cheaply ) your business,home, and other things to relatives, and then file your divorce later thus leaving with most of your belongings, and if you have a child and want custody you would have time to make all your plans for this as well, like leaving with the child until she recievies divorce papers and a restraining order. I know I took one topic and went another direction with it, but these are things that men usually end up losing at without prior knowledge of what to do.
Mike

... in response to As far as a divorce goes., posted by Mike on Feb 15, 2002

Only two problems with your advice. The first peice of advice is illegal and you'll like as not winding up loosing it ALL the assets you tried to hide (its called "fraud")instead of just part of them. As for the second piece of advice, unless the woman has at least 3 prior convictions for ax murder and/or child abuse, the judge is going to give HER custody of the child while the divorce is pending. Welcome to the real world.

... in response to Re: As far as a divorce goes., posted by Michael B on Feb 15, 2002


I don't know what backward state you are from, but in Ohio who ever has the child when they go to court usually keeps the child unless there is proof that the child is in danger. The law here sees no difference between mother or father and possession is 9/10th of the law. How do I know? 13 years ago when my son was 2 I over heard my wife making a date with another man, I then contacted an attorney without discussing anything with my wife. He told me to take my son and go some place that she can't find us and then he served her with a restraining order and divorce papers. From that point on she had to prove my child was in danger and she couldn't! It cost me $16,000 I'm legal fees but I did it! I even offered and paid for a mental exam and the results were that we were both good parents, and either of us could raise my son, thus the judge had no right to take my son from me. As for selling your home or business to a relative they must be able to prove you did it under false pretenses and I know men who have done this successfully!
Mike ---  who may live in his own world but the system I use to travel in it works!

... in response to Re: Re: As far as a divorce goes., posted by Mike on Feb 17, 2002

I live in Texas, which truly IS a backward state in this matter. In Texas the law also says "no dinstinction" between the sexes of the parents....but the judges do what ever they feel like, which is 99.9% give the children to the woman. MY ex had been in mental hospitals FOUR times and the judge said it "wasn't relavent" because she was "seeking care" about her problem(s). Here's a clue for you about the expected outcome in Texas...the forms you fill out for the Child Support office are printed this way:
Custodial Parent; What is HER name?.......
Non-Custodial Parent; What is HIS name?.......

As for the wash property sales, maybe your friends' ex wives were just too stupid to contest it or maybe they just didn't care to.....A fraud sale isn't hard to prove at all, the 'wronged' party simply has to make the allegation and the other party has to prove that it ISN'T a fraud sale. (no 'inocent until proven guilty', remember, the property settlement of a divorce is a CIVIL case, not a criminal case).  Try selling your house or a going business to your brother for $100.00 then try to file for bankruptcy and see how fast they come down on you for a 'fraud sale' ...besides, in Texas, unless you already owned the house BEFORE you got married and can prove that she's never contributed a red cent to the mortgage/insurance/taxes/repairs/improvements, she ALREADY owns 1/2 of it and the best you can do is one of you buy the other out or sell it at fair market value and split the proceeds.

What can I say? Maybe in Ohio you people have better laws and/or apply them fairly, who knows? In Texas the law actually says that you automaticly FORFEIT (to the soon to be ex spouse) ANY and ALL property you try to conceal or dispose of in an attempt to 'defraud' the other party.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: As far as a divorce goes., posted by Michael B on Feb 18, 2002

Dang that is screwed that they even have the documents made as his name and her name! I am lucky to live in Ohio! I know many men here who have custody of there kids. Also what is yours before the marriage will always be yours.

Most of the men I know who sold everything did this years ago and put everything of value in their childs name, or niece, nephew, but if a man is wise and knows a divorce is coming because of listening to her talk to a lover I would think there would be a clever way of doing this. Why not morgage the house to the point of no value for a business venture then put it in CD's ( you would lose some percentages on interest but look at the bigger picture)and say your investment was a failure. Sure it's a screwed thing to do but if you're creative I'm sure there is a way to do it, hey she is screwing you and another guy and if everyone is screwing everyone why not try screwing the system.

Or sell your house and tell her we're moving to Ohio and rent an apartment and and.(wink)
Mike

... in response to As far as a divorce goes., posted by Mike on Feb 15, 2002

To do as you suggested would work only if you never let her know you had recorded the conversations and managed to use the information in such a way that no one could prove how you got that information.

If you record someone's conversation without their knowledge, even if they are plotting your murder (!?! I know this from conversations with attorneys and a US Marshall, not that I am saying I would ever have done such a thing as record someone's conversation without their knowledge), YOU can go to prison for making the illegal telephone recording. What a country!

... in response to It is illegal to record telephone conver..., posted by jj on Feb 14, 2002

Most answering machines can record a memi type conversation some have no time limits.  They alsoprovide the audui beep required by law...

... in response to How do I record my telephone conversatio..., posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

a few ways to do it, now if one really wants to get the best quality in taping, which is the way to go?
Especially since my recording device is of very good quality, how can I get the best out of the machine?

... in response to How do I record my telephone conversatio..., posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

have a very simple device which is far superior to a "mike".

Simple modular input and outputs,  it's a "box".  Sells for 20 bucks and does a great job.  They work excellent.  Well worth 20 bucks.

... in response to I f there is a Radio Shack near they, posted by tim360z on Feb 14, 2002

can you elaborate a little bit?

... in response to What's the name for that gadget?, posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

no name,  just a model # which I don't know.  Its a J box interface between your tel modular jack and your recorder...call radio shack...they'll know.  They are used alot,  especially for LE traps and intercepts.

... in response to How do I record my telephone conversatio..., posted by Vox on Feb 14, 2002

You should be able to buy a microphone that fits in your ear(like a ear plug or ear "bud" headphone). Olympus sells them for their microcassete recorders(standard jack). You just have to remember to keep the handset up to the ear with the mike when you are on the phone. If recording phone conversations is not legal in your state, they may not be available, otherwise a major office supply chain such as Office Depot will have them.

-blm

... in response to You can get an "ear" mike., posted by BarryM on Feb 14, 2002

there must be some better, more direct ways, I hope.