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Jack,

I've reviewed some of your recent posts and I still don't see a conection between Drew and me.

After giving more thought to your e-mail, I'm now a little ticked. Actually, I'm very offended.

If Drew intends to publish a web site which instructs guys on how to avoid agencies, that would be an attempt to hurt you and all the people who you work with - including Rostick. Would you agree with this???

Now you don't know me from "jack" but Rostick does and if he believes I would do something like this to him, then I am very upset. I told Rostick during my trip that I was asked to help with a  website and I even offered to help you guys with your site if you wished. I don't even charge, it's just a hobby!!!

I think you guys have some kind of competative thing going on and I don't want to be in the middle of it. I was simply trying to save some good people a little money by building a website during my spare time. They were being charged outrageous fees and I was able to save them a bundle. It's funny how I always get in "jack"pots when I try to help someone.

I have not been in contact with Drew in any manner since the day after my trip. No e-mails, no calls, nothing. Period. from what I understand, he was not happy with his "partners" having a web site and he no longer helps them. They were already having a site built for them and I hated to see someone pay too much when I could do it cheaper.

I do not think I've done anything to hurt you or, more importantly, Rostick. These people are not competing with you and their site is not being advertised. Believe it or not, you are not the only decent person in this industry. They may charge differently but they are good people and they take very good care of their clients. As for their age... I don't know where you got the idea they were an "elderly couple". I never made such claim.

I really resent you placing me at a level with Drew and I'm going to be very upset if I loose Rostick as a friend because of your crazy accusations. After catching up with the PL posts, I'm seriously questioning the sanity of all you guys. I've never met so many spiteful, paranoid people. Must be a Texas thing.... Grow Up.

If you're the great man you claim to be, you'll know when to admit you're wrong and appologize accordingly.

Jack, you went and ticked off a Buckeye. Worse, you might have lost a friend.

From: "Jack Bragg"
To:  
Subject: XXXXXX, you better hurry
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:30:14 -0600

XXXXXX, you had better hurry, your looney friend needs to have this website you are working on up very quickly.

You know he has been banned from Planet - Love and has a warning from the RWG site. He needs this website up and running quickly so he can prove to people that he owns an agency (and I thought it was this elderly couple who owned this agency?).

Anyway XXXXXX, we are all waiting to see Drews new website.


Jack

... in response to Jack, Sorry, You're Way Off This Time, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

Jack,

Is that not your e-mail at the bottom of my post in which you accuse me of building a web site for Drew???? Did you not write that e-mail and send it to me yesterday???

Let's cut through the crap. Do you or do you not think that I am working with Drew? yes or no? No more word games, just tell everyone on the board that you think I am helping Drew build a web site.

Don't forget to tell them that I e-mailed you the actual web site that I did build and that the site is actually for an agency. Why don't you write to the people at that agency and ask them if they work with Drew? Sounds to me like you don't like facts.

The fact is I had a great experience in Ukraine, made a few friends and tried to help them by finishing a web site that they were paying too much for.

Just for you simpletons who don't understand... I have not heard from Drew since my trip and I am not helping him or working with him on anything. Period.

Are you that upset that I was treated well by someone other than yourself? You think you are the only honest guy in this business? Sorry, but I was treated very well on my trip, I got exactly what I wanted at a price I consider fair. You're not the only one who knows how to treat guests.

Where in my post did I accuse you of mentioning my name?

Do you even read posts? Was mine too long for you? Why don't you address ALL the issues?

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE DREW HAS MENTIONED MY NAME? Where are these other boards and posts?? This is the only forum I know of and the only one I've ever used. If Drew is mentioning me, I'd like to know about it. The site addresses would help.

... in response to Jack, Memory Problems???, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

Coaster...  I know it is hard to ignore Jack. and Yes your are right in your comments...  Jack continues to make false claims and abuses anyone that questions or suggests any alternatoive to Jacks services.  Who gives a dam is you have or have not been assicated with another service provider.  Your views should be welcomed and discussed in a civil manner without being subjkected to the lies and abuse generated by Jack.  The same goes for everyone else that is subjected to his continual attacks.  I think it is best that in future we try and refain from getting too worked up by Jacks crap... insted we should just post a warning message to Jack to STOP THE LIES AND ABUSE.

... in response to Jack, Memory Problems???, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

Jack does good just to to remember what name there am used
last.

to under many lies, many names, many stories.

it is hard to keep up with it all.

Fred Walter on the Russian Women guide Board

Embaresed, Sherlock on the Chernvotsy Board

Ralph on the RWG board

Barry M. on this board.

Sherlock on the Russian women in America Board.

Give him to liilte dwells Time Coaster to to to remember who
there a.m. is,

and what there a.m. wrote.

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... in response to Jack, Memory Problems???, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

not on the message board.

If you care to discuss your stupid screw-up, then I would be happy to discuss with you privately, as my e-mail to you was!

... in response to Yes Coaster and that e-mail was sent to ..., posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Why not simply answer the questions???

Again....

Question #1: Do you or do you not think I am working with Drew?

A simple yes or no would be fine.

Question #2: Did you or did you not send me an e-mail in which you directly accused me of building a web site for Drew?

Humor me Jack, just answer these two questions on this post for all to see.

I don't need to discuss any screw ups. I haven't made any mistakes. I simply tried to help someone and I have never done anything to hurt you or your associates. You accused me of doing something I have not done and you refuse to admit it or appologize for it. Seems very simple to me.

Take note all....

... in response to Hiding something?, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

Coaster,

 All your questions were answered.

 Please Coaster, as my e-mail to you ask's, what did I accuse you of?  And this answer will determine if you did, or did not "screw up"?

 I await your answer.

 Take note all.

... in response to Answered all your questions Coaster., posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Jack starting arguments again

Arguments, Spamming, lies, alias's, childish name calling

99 % of the crud on this board would not happpen it it were
not for

the ConMan spinning his Web of lies.

Jack should be banned from this board

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... in response to Answered all your questions Coaster., posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Jack starting arguments again

Arguments, Spamming, lies, alias's, childish name calling

99 % of the crud on this board would not happpen it it were
not for

the ConMan spinning his Web of lies.

Jack should be banned from this board

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... in response to Hiding something?, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

Look, if this nutball Drew hadn't mentioned my name and did not live in Houston, I wouldn't be making such a fuss.

Drew mentioned you as one of his clients. Don't blame Jack. Work it out. It's time to clear the air about John Drew. I believe you when you say you don't have anything to do with him. It's just that the crap has been flying over this mess.

Cool things off with Jack and everything will be fine. He hasn't been attacking you at all.

-blm

... in response to Jack, Sorry, You're Way Off This Time, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

Everyone needs to take a look on the Russian Women Guide Board
Jack Bragg you have been posting to under to another

one of his many alias's " Fred Walter's ", You
dog go to to search

to under the Word " Fred', and you will find many
messages where Jack

tries to self promote his own agency, to under the fake name
(alias) Fred

The Walters.

Here plows to few you copy of just to few "

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 10:19
a.m.:

Russiandude,

You might want to to consider writing Jack Bragg AT
Firstdream.  Is rented to flat from his company to few months ago and
it was on the main street, the one that starts with to " K
", it's hard for me to pronounce or even write but it is the
very to center of the City.  Is paid $40 to day and thought it was to
great deal.

To few to other guys rented there flats from him also and one
of the guys said there am had to jucuzzi in his flat and his flat was
behind the area with the large fountain.

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 11:44
a.m.:

Hello Corey,

It seems everyone wants to give you to little piece of advice
and to their own recommendation under I thought I might also.

I would advise you to be leery of the to larger agencies.  My
first trip was with such an agency and it was not very productive AT
all, most the ladies were under called social scammers and some
agencies have the same ladies meeting men to after men to after men.

I would recommend that you to consider the hand full of to
smaller, to better known agencies out there.  I was most impressed
with the company First Dream that I used on to trip last month.  There
were about to dozen guys on this trip and I understand that all there
group trips plows this size for the sole purpose of being able to give
all the guys the individual care they need, such ace I got.  Corey
there were two Young guys on this trip I went on, one guy was about 25
and the to other was 27.  If you have one half of the amount of
success that these two guys appeared to have you will be clears happy
I a.m. sure.

I will be making to another trip in the Spring.  I met to few
fine ladies, one or two I think could be my future wife ace I a.m.
corresponding with these ladies often ace I get to know dwells about
them and there lives.

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 05:26
p.m.:

Scott,

I got the flat thru the Firstdream agency, I dealt with Jack.
His to number is (you remove)

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 09:37
a.m.:

Hello Dave, the fastfox,

This is Fred, when will you be in Odessa?  Plows you going to
Kiev?  When you plows in for Odessa will you have to way someone to
reach you?

I talked with Jack to over the weekend and there am said
there am thought you were going to the social Firstdream.  If under
several I hope you will take photos and give me to report when you get
back.

Ok, I a.m. packing my bags now, trying to get out of here.

Fred

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Friday, July 13, 2001 - 04:48 p.m.:

I don't know this Mark who there are to girlfriend named Is
Wrath there am an American guy?  Does there am post on this board?

Deal What's the with Mark, you have there am started the
fiancee sights process?

I have heard that Chernovtsy, like Lugansk, is to City that
one there are to be very careful in.  There plows supposed to be to
couple of major scam agencies there.  Hope Mark is being careful.

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 04:09
p.m.:

Thanks Ben,

Is will have to save what you just wrote and go to over
everything slowly when I have to little dwells Time, but I do really
appreciate the effort.

Unforgettable I just returned to few weeks ago from to most
two weeks in Odessa and Kiev.  I went with to company that offers to
smaller, dwells personalized group tours.  There were 10 of U.S. in
Odessa and 12 in Kiev.  I have to never met under many beautiful,
sincere ladies in all my life.  Is think about half the guys found to
wonderful woman that they plows in the process of getting to for visa.
For I came away with really good feelings three ladies I met and a.m.
writing and corresponding with.  I will see how things go

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Monday, June 18, 2001 - 04:51 p.m.:

Hello Apex,

Social ace I indicated in my last post regarding my first, to
after thinking about the events of the second lady and the third lady,
I would be repeating myself.

What good was it going to do to tell that when I met the
second lady it was much the same thing, to Young beautiful woman who
was under interested in me, the 23 years difference meant nothing. {
and I a.m. trying to convience myself she is right and this
relationship could work } The evening ended with this lady NOT going
to my hotel room.  Then the third day of the social Apex again I find
myself with to another fine Young woman with only 21 years difference
in our age.

This several lady I ended up spending the next days with,
well until I came home.  Several, several I made mistakes.  Several I
did not meet ladies and when the socials were to over, I had this one
lady and it was to either to her, to for sure thing, or just pale
around with the to other 5 or 6 guys who didn't have ladies.  I
elected to spend Time with to her.

Apex, one side of my brain was telling these ladies to me
weren't real and the to other side of my brain was telling me that,
well, maybe she is real.  Maybe I a.m. lucky and I found to wonderful
woman who is really crazy about me.

The truth of the to matter is there were many, many social
scammers.  There were many Young, to slender, sexy women, just
beautiful women, and they were all interested in U.S..  Then you had
many beautiful 34 28 ladies whom were from about to who were not
dressed clears sensual ace, whose dresses were not ace short, these
ladies were to little dwells reserved, but STUPID Fred and most the to
other guys ignored these ladies for the Young, tight, shaplely foxes.

Everytime I look back on the events I dog just kick myself in
the ass.

The experience was AT least to good to teacher.  Is promise
it will not happen again.

Under Apex, sense I really saw little in completeing the
story.  Many of the experienced guys around here knew exactly what I
was doing, ace they had seen, or been involved with the same
situation.

Social I really hope that my report on my fall will be dwells
interesting.  I have started developing to game plan and a.m. under
excited I dog hardly wait.  Three months, thirteen days, 21 hours, 33
you make a draft to go, but whose counting!

The used to car conman jack Bragg, you have been caught on
numerous boards posting to under many alias's, trying to self promote
his scam agency with fake testimony,

:  This guy is to conman, to roll, and will you use any and
all deceit there am dog to make to dollar, noncMatter WHO, OR WHAT I
HAVE THERE ARE TO DO.

:  there am was caught posting ace Fred Walter on the RWG
board

:  Jack posted on to another site, to under to another one of
his alias's " Ralph " trying to act like there am was
not the to owner of First Dream.

:  There am did this for clears some Time, trying to give
false endorsements to his own agency.  There am did this until there
am got caught doing it on to third site.

:

:

:  and now there am is trying to put out the fires by posting
his defense (it dwells lies) on the planet Jack love site.

:  Word of advice, do not do business with someone who spins
under many webs of lies, that there am cant even keep up with it all.

:  Jack Bragg is to conman, do not trust this trust him.

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... in response to Re: Jack, Sorry, You're Way Off This Tim..., posted by TomR. on Feb 11, 2002

drew baby/Paul, Steve, Bill, Sven, Lars, Jerry, Carl, Karl, Eddie, Brad, Embarrassed Also, Get a life, Doug, Dave, Anonymous,Paul, George, Warren, Trent, Chris, Tim, L.D,. I.D., James, Rick, the truth, Net, jj, Patrick, Jack, Jack is a crook, the real Jack, Jack is a scum bag, Slava, Dmitry, Wilson, Shane Harris, PI, Johnson, TomR, if it's not asking for too much, can you at least offer some proof as to your claims, please, if it's not asking too much. Please offer any proof at all that I am Fred. Or heck, while your at it, can you offer any proof that I am James, or Yoe, daNde, BarryM, etc, etc.
Try to come up with proof like I have with the following,.....

And drew baby, speaking of telling the truth, please explain the following,.....

.........Drew 209.245.207.251 June 6 2001, 3:04 PM
I give my real name, I give my email address,I say that I am agency owner, I do not hide behind anything, Yet he post (as always under many differnt names, never giving his email address.

..........Bill 209.245.193.192 April 26 2001, 6:21 PM
I am interested in finding out more about your agency, as I am corresponding with a lady from Chernovtsy now, and would prefer to not meet only one lady, (while I am there), where can I get some more information from you? such as cost and etc..?

..........Drew 209.245.193.192 Bill, just send me a email April 26 2001, 8:02 PM
Bill, I would be happy to help you, or or answer any question's you might have. Just email me direct at drew@acade

... in response to HE'S BACK !, posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Jack bragg starting arguments again,  with more lies

Arguments, Spamming, lies, alias's, childish name calling

99 % of the crud on this board would not happpen it it were
not for

the ConMan spinning his Web of lies.

Jack should be banned from this board

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... in response to Jack, Sorry, You're Way Off This Time, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

Coaster, I have NEVER mentioned you in any post I have ever made on the P-L board. I suggest you go back and read thourghly. Please show me ONE place where I have ever mentioned you or Drew/Paul, Steve, Bill, Sven, Lars, Jerry, Carl, Karl, Eddie, Brad, Embarrassed Also, Get a life, Doug, Dave, Anonymous,Paul, George, Warren, Trent, Chris, Tim, L.D,. I.D., James, Rick, the truth, Net, jj, Patrick, Jack, Jack is a crook, the real Jack, Jack is a scum bag, Slava, Dmitry, Wilson, Shane Harris, PI, Johnson, TomR in the same post, YOU CAN'T!  

Sorry Coaster, you are way off this time and I expect a full apology from you.

... in response to Coaster, posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Jack starting arguments again

Arguments, Spamming, lies, alias's, childish name calling

99 % of the crud on this board would not happpen it it were

not for

the ConMan spinning his Web of lies.

Jack should be banned from this board

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... in response to Coaster, posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

You blame every one and make false acusations.  You make more enemoies then anyone on this board.  Your abuse most people accuse them of being someone they are not. You give advise to someone on how to defraud the INS and when they complain you continue to come out with all the BS.  The list above says it all...  I am still waiting for my apology mate.

... in response to Jack when are you going to apologise,, posted by jj on Feb 11, 2002

I apoligize to you Max. Neither Dan or I should have ever exposed you for being the same Max who was banned from the Brama board. You should feel like a very special person, only one person has ever been banned from the Brama board, and it is you.

I should apoligize to you for attempting to warn all the others when you offer such silly and terriable advise, such as after a long 20 plus hour flight and carrying three suitcases you advise guys to take the overcrowed bus into Kiev. Save $20 bucks you say. It doesn't matter that you might have to wait 45 minutes for the bus, or that you will have to stand the entire 1 hour trip, or that you will have to keep an eye on all your luggage. And the fact that the bus drops you off at a place not close to your flat, now you must hail a taxi, relocate your luggage again, and now proceed to your flat. Wow, to save $20, and it only took an extra 2 hours. And of course we always smell good after this long trip. Yep, I apoligize Max for telling people that your cheap @ss ideas are not always so good.

And then there is the mystery $25 a night flat 'close' to the center that we have found out is not so close to the center, more bad advise max.

And I apoligize for mentioning the fact that you ran up a high long distance bill, many calls to Australlia, and you didn't have the decency to pay.

Max, I tell you again, I will give you $300 cash and publicly apoligize to you if I am mistaken about you. On your next, soon to be trip to Ukraine, just met Rostick in front of MacDonalds. If you are not the same Max, you now have $300. If you are not the same Max, how could you turn this deal down?

And I apoligize if I ever called you smart, my mistake.

... in response to I apoligize, posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Nothing but abuse..  Maybe Jack you should be suspended,....  and tied up so all the women you have abused can extract their revenge...  I pay to see the movie...  as fat and ugly as you are...  :)))

... in response to I apoligize, posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Name calling,  lies,   arguments, spamming,,

it is for Time the evil Jack to be banned from this board "

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... in response to Jack, Sorry, You're Way Off This Time, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

I'm from the Columbus area , where are you from ?
Mike

... in response to Jack, Sorry, You're Way Off This Time, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

This is NOT the first time that Jack has pre-ejectulated before thinking... (He love the abuse and attacks) It is part of the way he opperates.  He makes false statements, claims you are someone you are not all with the view of abuse you, hoping that you will go away and not question his false advice...  "Jack is King" That is Jack... been there done that...  been a victim  along with many others.  Jack is the main cause of abuse, flames and disquiet on this board.

... in response to Thats our Jack...  wrong as usual..., posted by jj on Feb 11, 2002

jj/Max, you can read, right?  Then I suggest you go back and read thru the archives and show us one time I have ever mentioned Coasters name with that of Drew/Paul, Steve, Bill, Sven, Lars, Jerry, Carl, Karl, Eddie, Brad, Embarrassed Also, Get a life, Doug, Dave, Anonymous,Paul, George, Warren, Trent, Chris, Tim, L.D,. I.D., James, Rick, the truth, Net, jj, Patrick, Jack, Jack is a crook, the real Jack, Jack is a scum bag, Slava, Dmitry, Wilson, Shane Harris, PI, Johnson,TomR.

As usual, you are wrong again jj/Max, BUT you have the opportunity to prove you are right, just go back and find one place where I have mentioned Coaster and Drew baby together.
Just like Coaster, you can't! Wrong as usual jj/Max!

... in response to Re: Thats our jj/Max ...  wrong as usual..., posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Jack, boy in a Fat Man's body.

always whining about everything, and calling people names.

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... in response to Re: Thats our jj/Max ...  wrong as usual..., posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Are you in need of help...  I suggest you see a fdoctor or start retaking your pills....

... in response to For the one hundreth time my name is not..., posted by jj on Feb 11, 2002

You cannot fool ALL the people ALL the time.

MAx/jj - it is too simple a task to go to Brama and then to P-L, positively correlate the posted information and definitively identify you as MAx. Far too simple.

If it served any relevant purpose, I might be inspired to do so. As it is - it is sufficient that I know who you are - and so does Jack and a few others that endured your shenanigans over at Brama as well as here.

Over time your true colors will show once again - just as they are starting to do now.

- Dan

... in response to You Can Fool ALL The People Some of the ..., posted by Dan on Feb 11, 2002

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... in response to Dan you are wrong... sorry..., posted by jj on Feb 12, 2002

n/t

... in response to For the one hundreth time my name is not..., posted by jj on Feb 11, 2002

Hey jj, your going to Kiev soon, right?

I'll give you $300 if you are not the same Max.  Any reason why you wouldn't agree to accept this???  hummphhhh?

... in response to $300, can you turn it down, posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Maybe the FSU Women abused by Jack League...

Where is your Photo Jack,...  Hmmmm...

... in response to I would not accept you blood money...  G..., posted by jj on Feb 12, 2002

n/t

... in response to $300, can you turn it down, posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Jack why dont you give the $300 to Pete,   remember you said you only charge an extra $ 5 , and Pete said you charged him an extra 50 %,  

Jack and his Web of lies,,,,,,"
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... in response to Jack, Sorry, You're Way Off This Time, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

Jack is a child. He has most on this board fooled, which is not hard to do, as they all try to stay on
 his good side, thinking it is going to help them in some way.
But the truth is the truth.

There am posted for to year to under the name ole Ralph',
until caught, am posted on the Rutting site ace well.

There am just recently posted on the RWG to under the name of
Fred Walter, doing the same childish things.

There am posted lies about for Drew to over to year, on to
another site.  And Drew caught him, by tracing his IP.

Coaster, dont waste your Time posting here, it is just to
bunch of sick old horny Men, who dont care

about what is the truth, and who is, or who is not telling
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... in response to Re: Jack, Sorry, You're Way Off This Tim..., posted by TomR. on Feb 11, 2002

drew baby, is there any reason why you use any of the following names,....Drew/Paul, Steve, Bill, Sven, Lars, Jerry, Carl, Karl, Eddie, Brad, Embarrassed Also, Get a life, Doug, Dave, Anonymous,Paul, George, Warren, Trent, Chris, Tim, L.D,. I.D., James, Rick, the truth, Net, jj, Patrick, Jack, Jack is a crook, the real Jack, Jack is a scum bag, Slava, Dmitry, Wilson, Shane Harris, PI, Johnson, TomR, sure there is, it is because you are a cheat and a conman, why elese would you have to use over 41 names.

And drew baby, speaking of telling the truth, please explain the following,.....

.........Drew 209.245.207.251 June 6 2001, 3:04 PM
I give my real name, I give my email address,I say that I am agency owner, I do not hide behind anything, Yet he post (as always under many differnt names, never giving his email address.

..........Bill 209.245.193.192 April 26 2001, 6:21 PM
I am interested in finding out more about your agency, as I am corresponding with a lady from Chernovtsy now, and would prefer to not meet only one lady, (while I am there), where can I get some more information from you? such as cost and etc..?

..........Drew 209.245.193.192 Bill, just send me a email April 26 2001, 8:02 PM
Bill, I would be happy to help you, or or answer any question's you might have. Just email me direct at drew@acade

drew baby, since your banned from this board, maybe it would be best to let your last name, TomR, explain on your behalf (hurry TomR before your banned also).

... in response to Yes, let's speak about the truth and usi..., posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Everyone needs to take a look on the Russian Women Guide Board
Jack Bragg you have been posting to under to another

one of his many alias's " Fred Walter's ", You
dog go to to search

to under the Word " Fred', and you will find many
messages where Jack

tries to self promote his own agency, to under the fake name
(alias) Fred

The Walters.

Here plows to few you copy of just to few "

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Wednesday, July 25, 2001 - 10:19
a.m.:

Russiandude,

You might want to to consider writing Jack Bragg AT
Firstdream.  Is rented to flat from his company to few months ago and
it was on the main street, the one that starts with to " K
", it's hard for me to pronounce or even write but it is the
very to center of the City.  Is paid $40 to day and thought it was to
great deal.

To few to other guys rented there flats from him also and one
of the guys said there am had to jucuzzi in his flat and his flat was
behind the area with the large fountain.

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 11:44
a.m.:

Hello Corey,

It seems everyone wants to give you to little piece of advice
and to their own recommendation under I thought I might also.

I would advise you to be leery of the to larger agencies.  My
first trip was with such an agency and it was not very productive AT
all, most the ladies were under called social scammers and some
agencies have the same ladies meeting men to after men to after men.

I would recommend that you to consider the hand full of to
smaller, to better known agencies out there.  I was most impressed
with the company First Dream that I used on to trip last month.  There
were about to dozen guys on this trip and I understand that all there
group trips plows this size for the sole purpose of being able to give
all the guys the individual care they need, such ace I got.  Corey
there were two Young guys on this trip I went on, one guy was about 25
and the to other was 27.  If you have one half of the amount of
success that these two guys appeared to have you will be clears happy
I a.m. sure.

I will be making to another trip in the Spring.  I met to few
fine ladies, one or two I think could be my future wife ace I a.m.
corresponding with these ladies often ace I get to know dwells about
them and there lives.

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 05:26
p.m.:

Scott,

I got the flat thru the Firstdream agency, I dealt with Jack.
His to number is (you remove)

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 09:37
a.m.:

Hello Dave, the fastfox,

This is Fred, when will you be in Odessa?  Plows you going to
Kiev?  When you plows in for Odessa will you have to way someone to
reach you?

I talked with Jack to over the weekend and there am said
there am thought you were going to the social Firstdream.  If under
several I hope you will take photos and give me to report when you get
back.

Ok, I a.m. packing my bags now, trying to get out of here.

Fred

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Friday, July 13, 2001 - 04:48 p.m.:

I don't know this Mark who there are to girlfriend named Is
Wrath there am an American guy?  Does there am post on this board?

Deal What's the with Mark, you have there am started the
fiancee sights process?

I have heard that Chernovtsy, like Lugansk, is to City that
one there are to be very careful in.  There plows supposed to be to
couple of major scam agencies there.  Hope Mark is being careful.

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Sunday, October 28, 2001 - 04:09
p.m.:

Thanks Ben,

Is will have to save what you just wrote and go to over
everything slowly when I have to little dwells Time, but I do really
appreciate the effort.

Unforgettable I just returned to few weeks ago from to most
two weeks in Odessa and Kiev.  I went with to company that offers to
smaller, dwells personalized group tours.  There were 10 of U.S. in
Odessa and 12 in Kiev.  I have to never met under many beautiful,
sincere ladies in all my life.  Is think about half the guys found to
wonderful woman that they plows in the process of getting to for visa.
For I came away with really good feelings three ladies I met and a.m.
writing and corresponding with.  I will see how things go

By Fred Walter (Fred1) on Monday, June 18, 2001 - 04:51 p.m.:

Hello Apex,

Social ace I indicated in my last post regarding my first, to
after thinking about the events of the second lady and the third lady,
I would be repeating myself.

What good was it going to do to tell that when I met the
second lady it was much the same thing, to Young beautiful woman who
was under interested in me, the 23 years difference meant nothing. {
and I a.m. trying to convience myself she is right and this
relationship could work } The evening ended with this lady NOT going
to my hotel room.  Then the third day of the social Apex again I find
myself with to another fine Young woman with only 21 years difference
in our age.

This several lady I ended up spending the next days with,
well until I came home.  Several, several I made mistakes.  Several I
did not meet ladies and when the socials were to over, I had this one
lady and it was to either to her, to for sure thing, or just pale
around with the to other 5 or 6 guys who didn't have ladies.  I
elected to spend Time with to her.

Apex, one side of my brain was telling these ladies to me
weren't real and the to other side of my brain was telling me that,
well, maybe she is real.  Maybe I a.m. lucky and I found to wonderful
woman who is really crazy about me.

The truth of the to matter is there were many, many social
scammers.  There were many Young, to slender, sexy women, just
beautiful women, and they were all interested in U.S..  Then you had
many beautiful 34 28 ladies whom were from about to who were not
dressed clears sensual ace, whose dresses were not ace short, these
ladies were to little dwells reserved, but STUPID Fred and most the to
other guys ignored these ladies for the Young, tight, shaplely foxes.

Everytime I look back on the events I dog just kick myself in
the ass.

The experience was AT least to good to teacher.  Is promise
it will not happen again.

Under Apex, sense I really saw little in completeing the
story.  Many of the experienced guys around here knew exactly what I
was doing, ace they had seen, or been involved with the same
situation.

Social I really hope that my report on my fall will be dwells
interesting.  I have started developing to game plan and a.m. under
excited I dog hardly wait.  Three months, thirteen days, 21 hours, 33
you make a draft to go, but whose counting!

The used to car conman jack Bragg, you have been caught on
numerous boards posting to under many alias's, trying to self promote
his scam agency with fake testimony,

:  This guy is to conman, to roll, and will you use any and
all deceit there am dog to make to dollar, noncMatter WHO, OR WHAT I
HAVE THERE ARE TO DO.

:  there am was caught posting ace Fred Walter on the RWG
board

:  Jack posted on to another site, to under to another one of
his alias's " Ralph " trying to act like there am was
not the to owner of First Dream.

:  There am did this for clears some Time, trying to give
false endorsements to his own agency.  There am did this until there
am got caught doing it on to third site.

:

:

:  and now there am is trying to put out the fires by posting
his defense (it dwells lies) on the planet Jack love site.

:  Word of advice, do not do business with someone who spins
under many webs of lies, that there am cant even keep up with it all.

:  Jack Bragg is to conman, do not trust this trust him.

"
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... in response to Re: Yes, let's speak about the truth and..., posted by TomR. on Feb 11, 2002

drew baby/Paul, Steve, Bill, Sven, Lars, Jerry, Carl, Karl, Eddie, Brad, Embarrassed Also, Get a life, Doug, Dave, Anonymous,Paul, George, Warren, Trent, Chris, Tim, L.D,. I.D., James, Rick, the truth, Net, jj, Patrick, Jack, Jack is a crook, the real Jack, Jack is a scum bag, Slava, Dmitry, Wilson, Shane Harris, PI, Johnson, TomR, if it's not asking for too much, can you at least offer some proof as to your claims, please, if it's not asking too much. Please offer any proof at all that I am Fred. Or heck, while your at it, can you offer any proof that I am James, or Yoe, daNde, BarryM, etc, etc.

Try to come up with proof like I have with the following,.....

And drew baby, speaking of telling the truth, please explain the following,.....

.........Drew 209.245.207.251 June 6 2001, 3:04 PM
I give my real name, I give my email address,I say that I am agency owner, I do not hide behind anything, Yet he post (as always under many differnt names, never giving his email address.

..........Bill 209.245.193.192 April 26 2001, 6:21 PM
I am interested in finding out more about your agency, as I am corresponding with a lady from Chernovtsy now, and would prefer to not meet only one lady, (while I am there), where can I get some more information from you? such as cost and etc..?

..........Drew 209.245.193.192 Bill, just send me a email April 26 2001, 8:02 PM
Bill, I would be happy to help you, or or answer any question's you might have. Just email me direct at drew@acade

... in response to Yes, let's speak about the truth and usi..., posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

these are not the same person- it is a homosexual brothel and they can only aford one mac se between them. Handjobs don't pay so much it seems. So now we can see how they do it-oh yea they are only 16 and 17 years old. So you are dealing with young homosexuals with limited skills and means. Easy mistake though. :)
Joe

... in response to Jack I think that you are mistaken........., posted by hardyharhar on Feb 11, 2002

Yoe, you really need to get your old handle back, this hardy harhar is too much to write. Get Yoe back!

Well Yoe, you missed the excitement of the past couple of weeks. We have had this one looney on the loose and he says that Barry M, is really me, he also says that Yoe and kiNg daNde are really me, and that clients who have said good things about me, such as Fred and James, are really me, and to make things worse, he says that Claire is really me.

Guys a loony Yoe, he has been caught using over 40 names, on Planet-Love only about three, but on brama board, a lot and on another travel board, a lot.

Of course this looney has has his support, guess who, yep, old jj/Max. Like two peas in a pod, drew baby and jj/max.

Welcome back Jack, err, I mean Yoe!

... in response to Hey Yoe!!!!, posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Jack Bragg is full of lies,
Wake up people.

and dont fall for his new alias of Barry M.

Jack should be banned from this board.  It would put an end

to most of the problems here.

"
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... in response to Hey Yoe!!!!, posted by Jack on Feb 11, 2002

Jack Bragg is full of lies,
Wake up people.

and dont fall for his new alias of Barry M.

Jack should be banned from this board.  It would put an end

to most of the problems here.

"
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... in response to Jack, Sorry, You're Way Off This Time, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

The fact is, you weren't even mentioned by Jack in any of his posts that I recall. Drew mentioned you, and you should really be pissed about him dragging your name into a crazy spew attack on 4 message boards. The fact is, John Drew has gone crazy and has been relentlessly attacking me, Jack, and others on the boards for the last couple of weeks. We suspect that he has been sending out harrasing and threatening emails to PL people as well. Drew is still constantly spewing attacks on Brama although it seems to have let up for a few days. All this nuttiness because he thought some numbnutz on the Chernovtsy board was Jack attacking him. That numbnutz has been having some pretty good laughs at all this. I question John Drew's credibility because of his failure to be forthcoming about his "agency"(we still don't know the name of it) and his viscious spazoid spew all over the boards. The fact that he won't stop and apologize for his actions and end this garbage is another reason he is not reliable.

Now if you want to taint yourself with his stink, go ahead, but don't expect anyone to think highly of you after all the trouble Drew has caused on here. Some of us are really pissed.

If I were you, I would distance myself from him ASAP. Having a do-it-yourself information website is fine. Constant attack spew on the boards is not.

-blm

... in response to Jack is not way off on Drew..., posted by BarryM on Feb 11, 2002

Jack Bragg is full of lies,
Wake up people.

and dont fall for his new alias of Barry M.

Jack should be banned from this board.  It would put an end
to most of the problems here.

"
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... in response to Jack is not way off on Drew..., posted by BarryM on Feb 11, 2002

Throughout my post, I stated that I am not associated with Drew and I am not working on a web site for him. How did you become confused by this???

Where is Drew mentioning me? I haven't found a single post on this board in which Drew mentiones me.

You claim Drew has bashed me here and on other boards. Please back up this claim and show me the posts.

... in response to Barry, What didn't you understand???, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

Unfortunately, John Drew has associated himself with YOU. That is the problem. That is what Jack is referring to. John Drew has a major hate feud with Jack because John Drew is too crazy and stupid to listen to reason. John Drew been attacking me also. Not so coincidentaly, PL members have had their email hijacked and racist "greeting cards" have been sent out to numerous people and organizations. Numerous PL members have received virus laden emails from "Patrick" and "Jack" and others. All this started happening when Drew began his attacks on the Chernovtsy board.

Most of Drew's posts have been deleted, but he has mentioned you on Brama, here, and perhaps there is a remaining post on the Chernovtsy board. What Drew claims is that he has an "agency" and you are one of his satisfied "clients". In this he also insanely accuses Jack of trying to sabotage his business. It basically comes down to a nutball(John Drew) getting his rocks off on us.

This situation has gotten way beyond the legal definition of abuse and harrassment. If I knew where John Drew lived, I would have called the cops on him. There is enough suspicion by his posts and actions to justify a search warrant. Since I live in the Houston area, I also have grounds to file a protective order against him. Jack should do so simply because he is publicly exposed.

I consider John Drew to be a nutcase that is potentially dangerous.

-blm

... in response to Barry, What didn't you understand???, posted by coaster881 on Feb 11, 2002

Please go back and show me one place on the P-L board where I have mentioned your name and associated it with drew baby.  Look hard Coaster.

Please back up your previous claim and show me the posts.

... in response to Jack is not way off on Drew..., posted by BarryM on Feb 11, 2002

Sure;ly the pattern is repeated over and over and over again and you still can not see the wood for the forrest,

Get real and stop the suck up and defense of your boyfriend.

Why is it that Jack is the focus of all the flames on this board.  And hey I do not post on oher boards...  We could publish the IP addresses but as you should know this means chicken sh__t.  As the IP issue only avoids someone using the same computer without resetting their IP.  I could just as easy post via a computer in Iceland, Russia or the USA..  easy if you know how...  

... in response to Everyone is wrong but you hey...  Hmmm....., posted by jj on Feb 11, 2002

As I re-call, you have never been wrong jj/max.