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Title: Lets take a census
Post by: tomtneal on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
With all the bad stuff posted lateley about all the  scams from women from the PI lets count those who are happy and the ones who got scammed,myself i am very happily married for well over 3 years now,she has her pink card and still loves me and i love her,i never had a pen pal or introduction i just went
tneal


Title: Ok, My turn!
Post by: Don J on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

I met my wife by mistake, a Good friend of mine met his now wife through a penpal service. When he explained to me how they met and what his intentions where I like many people became very suspect of his girls motives. I then decided to do a little internet research about this whole MOB thing. After a while I started to adjust to his relationship and I emailed his lady friend a Holiday greeting, she received it and tried to email me back but I never received it. She tried several times to email with no avail. Then I ran across an email address on a chat board of a young lady who lived in the same city as my friends girl. I emailed her and aked her if she would be so kind as to email me back to check my ISP. About 10 days went by when I received her response, she apologized for taking so long and asked me to email her again (if I wished) to tell her about life back here in the US. So I emailed her back, explained where I was from and what life was like in Wisconsin. One thing lead to another and pretty soon we are finding out a good friend of hers is married to a Police officer in my home town, then she has a mutual friend of my buddies lady friend and so on and so on. Well, emails turned to phone calls and then my buddy met her on his trip to visit his lady and suddenly it seemed obvious that I would have to make the trip over to see her. Well by the time I made the trip we had corresponded for several months and it seemed so natural when we finaly met face to face that I asked her to marry me, she said yes (obviously) and after about 4 months of INS paper shuffling she had her Visa in hand.

I wanted her to quit her job and spend some time with her family before I came to bring her home with me which I believe was a good idea.

We will be married 2 years on January 25th, and I truly do love her a little more each day I am with her. She has been a blessing from God and I Thank him everyday for bringing her into my life.

No penpals, no intro services, just one girl who's email address I stumbled onto and Look Where I Am Now!............

Happier then a Pig in Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh....... I better go now. :o)))))))))

Don J



Title: Hands up... Who's a loser?
Post by: Howard on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Guys


OUCH!  I go away for a few days and BAM!... I am branded a loser!  That hurts that I could fall so quickly from grace :c)  LOL

For the record, I met my wife through an internet penpal site.  We corresponded heavily for a year, before we decided that there was enough there to take another step.  I visited for a few weeks with her and her family in Southern Leyte and returned to the US engaged.  It took almost a year to get the K-1 through and to get her here so that we could marry.  We began to have communication problems within the first three months of the marriage and they never got better, no matter what I did or tried to do.

Shortly after our first anniversary, her father became gravely ill and she felt she needed to go home to care for hime and spend time with him, fearing she would never see him again alive.  Of Course, I supported that decision and financed her trip and paid his hospital bill.  He did recover, but had to have a leg amputated.  At least he's alive.

When it came time to return from that trip, my wife decided that she could not.  She was basicly hiding from her family in Manila until Art (Bear) decided to see what he could dig up for me while on a trip to try and get Marissa's K-3 pushed through.  Art found her and appealed to her that whatever was going on, she owed me an explaination.  We talked, she confessed the things I have been sharing oover the past several weeks and made the commitment to try and work things out.  Her version of "working things out" is doing anything she can to get a divorce from me.  Not quite what I had in mind!  Over a two week period she made it very, very clear that she had no interest in continuing our marriage.  With no other alternative, I have retained a lawyer and have filed a Complaint for Annulment.  My lawyer says it all should be over in about sixty days.  Two years to get in to the relationship and two months to get out.  Ahhhhhh... the American legal system... ain't it grand?  

As you all know, before Art's help, it seemed pretty obvious that my marriage was over in September.  In November, I started to look over my options and see what was out there, in the way of decent available people looking for the same.  Before my marriage, I had done quite well hookin' up on the net.  The problem was that I just wasn't meeting anyone that I thought felt the same committment to a marriage that I did, but I was meeting nice women.  Let me tell you, the difference I see in the few years I was off the market I astounding!  Naively, I figured that the more people that were online in comparison to almost five years ago, the more quality people available.  Ummmm... WRONG!  It's very discouraging out there!  No one has the slightest concept of reality.  Everyone wants a meal ticket and a super model!  Fortunately for me I am neither :c)  LOL!

After much soul searching--it's been going on alot longer than a few months--I have decided to re-consider my position on re-tracing my footsteps and meeting someone from the Philippines again.  I still am not positive what I will do, but I am exploring my options.  I have never once doubted the ideal with "Mail Order Brides", I only knew that my expirience had been less than positive.  But so many of you are so darn happy, I feel I must look harder at trying again.  Unless there's something I missing, I'm not a whole lot different than anyone here--although, I'm not nearly as handsome as Tim!  LOL--and if you guys found the loves of your lives, maybe mine is still waiting to be discovered.  We'll see.  I promise to keep everyone informed :c)

That's my story... Unfortunately, I'm stuck with it :c)

Regards,

Howard



Title: Re: I do not think you are a loser!
Post by: Fuzzy on January 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Hands up... Who's a loser?, posted by Howard on Jan 8, 2002

Howard

 I think it took a real man to come forward with what happened to you. Anyone that thinks you are a loser, is a loser in my book.As of right now I am in the same shoes that you were in so I know it is real hard but in the end you will do fine. Don't let any clowns give you crap because you live and learn. I have made alot of mistakes myself but I learn and that is the most important thing!!!



Title: Ditto. Hey Fuzzy.
Post by: shadow on January 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: I do not think you are a loser!, posted by Fuzzy on Jan 11, 2002

In Gillette, Wyoming, where I lived for several years, everybody took to calling me Fuzzy. One day I was walking down the street with my dog in the blowing cold snow, (It does that there) and this ladies voice from behind me sceams "Fuzzy, get back here right now!" I turn around, and there is this not unattractive woman standing in a bathrobe staring at me. As I was reeling my chin up off the pavement I noticed this little dog which was behind my dog where I couldn't see him.  :)

Larry.



Title: Re: Hands up... Who's a loser?
Post by: Dingo/Taliman on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Hands up... Who's a loser?, posted by Howard on Jan 8, 2002

Howard  you said  "We corresponded heavily for a year,
before we decided that there was enough there to take another step"

Are you sure you don't want to edit that because before you said
something like "Ayessa's mom may have written most of her letters"

This would make a big difference.


Dingo



Title: True... But...
Post by: Howard on January 09, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Hands up... Who's a loser?, posted by Dingo/Taliman on Jan 8, 2002

D~

Yes, Ayesa's mother wrote the letters, but at that time I did not know that.  I was just giving the blow by blow and timeline for those you who might not know it.  At that time I thought absolutely that I was corresponding with my wife.  If I had any sign that I wasn't I never would've made the committment to go and meet her and get the process moving, as far as a K-1, the next logical step at that time.

H



Title: Re: True... But...
Post by: Taliman on January 09, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to True... But..., posted by Howard on Jan 9, 2002

Thanks for clarifying Howard !
Dingo


Title: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Willy on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Very happy here, married since April 18 2001..GREAT!! Not really a pen-pal, just met on a message board and started emailing, phone calls and snail. Made 2 trips there, and I miss it! Regards to everyone, Hi Shadow, long time,
Willy


Title: I miss it....
Post by: BrianN on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Lets take a census, posted by Willy on Jan 8, 2002

That's the worst part of it all, if there was one.  Missing it, the life, culture, heat, san miguel... Such nice people.  Wonderful place... it grows on you, and it's very  difficult to come home.

Good thing those choices were never in my own hands, coming back home that is.



Title: Scammed...
Post by: shadow on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

on more than one occasion.  Met them through intro services.  Never again this way.  Larry.


Title: Re: Scammed...
Post by: Taliman on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Scammed..., posted by shadow on Jan 7, 2002

I've met some of the niceset sweetest girls through some introduction services (penpal) Web magazines.
Also some not so nice.  Don't limit your options rather people should be realistic about who you are getting
involved with.  The lady at the "bar" could turn out to be a gem while the lady at "church" could run you ragged.
You just never now.


Title: Re: Re: Scammed...
Post by: shadow on January 09, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Scammed..., posted by Taliman on Jan 8, 2002

I agree. I've met some bar girls that were nice, and am still friends with one I met the first time I went there. Wish I had got hooked up with her instead of the other ones. Oh well, hindsight.

I have met several through the sites that weren't so bad, although not the one for me. The odds, though, seemed to be drastically different between the site girls and the ones you meet just by being there. This is part of the reason for my conclusion that the best way by far to do this is to live there.

Larry.

P.S. Congats on the new arrival!!!!   :)



Title: Re: Re: Re: Scammed...
Post by: Taliman on January 09, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Scammed..., posted by shadow on Jan 9, 2002

Living there would be cool.
For me though I would need a job and doubt I could find one.
No Job  = no food LOL.

Guess who's sleeping soundly in the bedroom?
Dingo



Title: Yeh, Yeh, Yeh...,
Post by: shadow on January 11, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Re: Scammed..., posted by Taliman on Jan 9, 2002

You lucky dog!!!  :)

Trick is you have to MAKE a job for yourself there.

Larry.



Title: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Minnesota guy on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Have only met one woman through my neighbors. I'm either very lucky or it's the best scam ever. I'm heading back to Manila on 1/31 and then we're heading down to Leyte to spend time with my neighbors and the rest of her family. My biggest problem now is to find a good place near Hilomos (sp?) to watch the Bears win the Super Bowl.


Title: da bearssss !! ....n/t
Post by: Eman on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Lets take a census, posted by Minnesota guy on Jan 7, 2002

n/m


Title: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Eman on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Thanks to TomT for the census idea. It proved to be quite an eye-opener. Personally I'm still working the correspondence method, though without any great results thus far, so lately I have been pondering the idea of "just go there" which seems to have worked for a few of us here.


Title: Re: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Jeff S on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Lets take a census, posted by Eman on Jan 7, 2002

Eman:

Going back a while in the archives was another census taken about how the married people had met. It turns out about 1/2 met through introductions by friends, 1/4 through pen pal means (address purchase, IRQ, etc) and about 1/4th by accident, (on vacation in the far east, while living there, in the military, etc.)

The conclusion we all came up with was, that probably the most successful technique to meet serious singles is to hook up with the Asian community in your town and ask about friends and relatives back home.

-- Jeff S.



Title: Re: Re: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Eman on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Lets take a census, posted by Jeff S on Jan 7, 2002

Jeff - thanks for the idea. You definitely got me thinking about that. I'm frankly not sure if it would be advantageous or not. First I'm not necessarily clear on how to insinuate myself into the local Asian community. But the problem I'm encountering is not simply finding someone, it's finding someone who can be a Successful penpal. It seems a lot of people don't have the ability to really express their personality in writing/correspondence (I might be one of them, I don't know). On one hand, we have examples like our own Febtember, where her charm really shines through her written word. But most of the letters I've received barely get past a few superficial pleasantries. I try to get things rolling by being more expansive myself, and by asking some fairly searching questions, but these are mostly ignored, or dispatched with a brief sentence or 2. So it seems the medium is not adequate to advance the relationship.


Title: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: jon on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Over 3 years of looking and still nothing.  Of course I have not done much these past 8 months that I have been unemployed.  I did however meet 2 pinays here: one was crazy, and the other forgot to tell me she was married (what do you mean he's not your uncle?).  My method of choice is writing letters.  I visited one girl over a year ago but nothing clicked (on either side).

Jon (now in FL)



Title: Re: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Jeff S on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Lets take a census, posted by jon on Jan 7, 2002

Hi Jon & welcome back! Are you employed again? Down in Florida, huh - maybe you should hook up with Dave H!
-- Jeff S.


Title: Cool...
Post by: Dave H on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Lets take a census, posted by Jeff S on Jan 7, 2002

Hey Jeff,

I hope Jon has a job, because I don't. Somebody has to pay for the San Miguel. ;o)) Tito Matt and Jay-wolf are also neighbors. We need to plan a S. FL. meet.

Dave H.



Title: Re: Cool...
Post by: jon on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Cool..., posted by Dave H on Jan 7, 2002

I've been in Tampa a few days now.  No, I am not working.  Just found out that I did not get a potential job.  I will be going from high tech to you wnat fries with that? It's been 8 months and I figured I might as well be warm.  Also, the friend I was staying with up North is selling his home.  I am shacked up with a friend of a friend.

Dave...you retired, right?

Jon



Title: Warm...
Post by: Dave H on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Cool..., posted by jon on Jan 7, 2002

Jon,

Sorry to hear that the potenial job didn't work out. You're right, you might as well be where it's warm...well, warm except for this past week. I retired 5 years ago at 39. They gave me an offer I couldn't refuse..."disabled in the line of duty."  :o( I will probably start a business one of these days... Let me know if you get down to Lauderdale. Good Luck!

Dave H.



Title: Re: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Jimbo on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Lets take a census, posted by jon on Jan 7, 2002

Hi Jon,

How are you doing? Are you living in FL now?


Sally



Title: Hi Sally and Jimbo!
Post by: jon on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Lets take a census, posted by Jimbo on Jan 7, 2002

See my post above. Send donations to....

Jon



Title: I took the penpal route.....
Post by: SteveG on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

As most of you know, I went whole hog for the penpal method (yep, Jimbo, 265 of them LOL) and as a result have been married for 7 1/2 years now.  It's been mostly mostly happy except for the infrequent beatings she gives me......   (If I get a phone call in a few minutes, I'll know she's reading this.  LOL)  

 Seriously, I have no regrets at all.  I can't imagine life without Melly now.   Having penpals as a method to meet women has gotten some undeserved bad press here lately in my opinion.  I see no more risk using that method than any other.  After all, just because you first got acquanted as penpals, that doesn't prevent you from spending whatever time it takes later on, together in person, to decide if you are right for each other.

                                     SteveG



Title: One More Thing...
Post by: SteveG on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to I took the penpal route....., posted by SteveG on Jan 7, 2002

Tom,
 I feel it is significant for the purpose of this census that I mention my other experience with a penpal whom I was engaged to prior to marrying Melly.   Most people here are at least somewhat familiar with my story about Arlene so I won't go into it in any detail here except to say that getting to know her from letters and phone calls prior to meeting gave me a very real view of who she was.   There were no surprises when we actually met - if anything can be said about why we fell apart (other than the Iglesia ni Christo) it would have to be my ignoring the fact that we just weren't very compatible in the first place.  I fell victim to the long black hair and dark sleepy mysterious eyes disease I suppose.  :)

 However, and this is a very significant however, she certainly wasn't out to use me just to come to the US.  In fact she begged me to move to HongKong with her.  She even payed for everything we did the first 3 days when I first visited her due to all the banks being closed.  She did this without hesitation.  

 So two penpals visited and two good ones has been my experience.

                          SteveG



Title: Great point [nm]
Post by: JephW on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to I took the penpal route....., posted by SteveG on Jan 7, 2002

.


Title: Those that get scammed...
Post by: BrianN on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

usually scam "themselves".  The world is full of greed.  So many guys that I've known with asian girls, pulled the wool over their own eyes, masking even their own true identities.

Yes, there's liars on every corner of the planet, the least of which is with american women that can hide behind their own facade so well.

Me, I'm successful, because I survived, my kids did too, and we're all doing ok.  Not dead like so many other divorced people that I know.  Get along VERY well.

I guess if I had to do it all over again, well, hmmm, that  light socket is so tempting to stick my finger in it again.  

No regrets... just wishes... and desires.

Good luck all.



Title: Yes, I scammed myself...
Post by: shadow on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Those that get scammed..., posted by BrianN on Jan 7, 2002

by believing all the hype about honor, family oriented, sweet girls that wanted nothing more than a loving husband. I was 100% honest with them, I tried my best to convey as much about my life as I could. I was blind, and an easy target. Now I know where not to look, and what to look for.  Larry.


Title: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Jeff S on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Like Tim, I'm not married to a Filipina, but am a winner anyway, she's Japanese and our 16th anniversary is next week. We were introduced through friends.
-- Jeff S.


Title: Jeff & Moriko................SALLY
Post by: Jimbo on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Lets take a census, posted by Jeff S on Jan 7, 2002

keep it up.  Have a wonderful 16th anniversary next week. Jeff are going to give her a 10 carat diamond? ;o))  Opps! I suppose to be a simple Filipina. ;o((

Sally



Title: Re: Jeff & Moriko................SALLY
Post by: Jeff S on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Jeff & Moriko................SALLY, posted by Jimbo on Jan 7, 2002

Nah, I'm saving the big rock for out 20th. She'd kill me for spending that much on her, anyway. We'll probably just sneak away to a Palm Springs resort and spa for a three day weekend and pamper ourselves with massages, gourmet resturaunts, and some of that great winter desert air. :o)
-- Jeff
-- Jeff


Title: Couldn't resist ....... *s*
Post by: may10 on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Lets take a census, posted by Jeff S on Jan 7, 2002

to wish you and Mariko, continued happiness.

Happy Anniversary.



Title: Thanks, May and Don ... *s*
Post by: Jeff S on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Couldn't  resist .......  *s*, posted by may10 on Jan 7, 2002


It just keeps getting better all the time. I consider myself a very lucky man. If I had it to do all over again, I wouldn't change a thing. :o)

-- Jeff S.



Title: Sweet Sixteen!
Post by: donb2222 on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Lets take a census, posted by Jeff S on Jan 7, 2002

Congratulations Jeff and Mariko!
Heres a toast to the happy couple (tink!)

Don

P.S.  Thanks again for the Asian Sweetie web page.



Title: Newlywed....
Post by: tito on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Been married almost two months.Too early to tell???Don't think so.My wife is a fine woman and has a fine family.I'm
blessed.Oh yeah-We went the penpal route.

tito Matt



Title: Time Flies!
Post by: Dave H on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Newlywed...., posted by tito on Jan 7, 2002

Hey tito Matt,

Congratulations to both of you! WOW...it's been two months already. Almost three months married for us.

Introduction: through sister and brother-in-law (friends)who live in US.

Dave H.



Title: Congrats Tits.................. N/T Sally
Post by: Jimbo on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Newlywed...., posted by tito on Jan 7, 2002

nt


Title: Re: Congrats Tits.................. N/T Sally
Post by: tomtneal on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Congrats Tits.................. N/T     ..., posted by Jimbo on Jan 7, 2002

what did you say (TITS)hmmm that really makes my mind run


Title: Hi Sally!
Post by: tito on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Congrats Tits.................. N/T     ..., posted by Jimbo on Jan 7, 2002

Thanks for the kind wishes:).Don't worry about misspelling my name.I have been called worse.LOL.

tito Matt



Title: My Dear, what the heck was that??? -n/t
Post by: Jimbo on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Congrats Tits.................. N/T     ..., posted by Jimbo on Jan 7, 2002

nt


Title: Opps ....thats short for Tito ..................Sally
Post by: Jimbo on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to My Dear, what the heck was that??? -n/t, posted by Jimbo on Jan 7, 2002

I didn't know that word is the body parts. Sorry for my ignorant. LOL

Sally



Title: You're gonna have to watch her closer, Jimbo!! :) n/t
Post by: SteveG on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to My Dear, what the heck was that??? -n/t, posted by Jimbo on Jan 7, 2002

aetaw


Title: Oh My Gosh Sally, look what you did now......... LOL
Post by: SteveG on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Congrats Tits.................. N/T     ..., posted by Jimbo on Jan 7, 2002

And the 's' is nowhere near the 'o'.   LOL


Title: I think I mix up something here I better go.. LOL ..................Sally
Post by: Jimbo on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Oh My Gosh Sally, look what you did now...., posted by SteveG on Jan 7, 2002

nt.


Title: Re: I think I mix up something here I better go.. LOL ..................Sally
Post by: SteveG on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to I think I mix up something here I better..., posted by Jimbo on Jan 7, 2002

Sally,
 OK, now that you mention it, I agree that shortening a name and adding an 's' on the end is common in the Philippines.....but it sure didn't work too well in this case, did it??   Sorry, but I had to point it out - it was just too funny.   :)
                              SteveG


Title: Thanks for the explanation Steve :o)
Post by: Jimbo on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: I think I mix up something here I be..., posted by SteveG on Jan 7, 2002

I hope the www understands.  She really didn't know.  She calls them bre@sts.  In Butuan her brother's nickname was Bading but when he went to Manila and found out Bading means 'gay' in Tagalog they all called him Bads instead.

Where is the cuss-o-meter when you need it -LOL!

Jim



Title: No Problemo
Post by: SteveG on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Thanks for the explanation Steve :o), posted by Jimbo on Jan 7, 2002

Jim,
 Well, I thought I should give Sally a hand there since I was the one who pointed out her discretion.  LOL   Yeah, I don't think I would want a nickname that meant Gay either!
                                          SteveG


Title: Re: No Problemo
Post by: Jimbo on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to No Problemo, posted by SteveG on Jan 8, 2002

You got there just before I did Steve, and I was thinking the same thing - how could that be a typo??! -LOL

Jim



Title: Nice one Sally! ROFLMAO! :oD
Post by: Dave H on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Thanks for the explanation Steve :o), posted by Jimbo on Jan 7, 2002

Hey Jim,

It's a good thing his name wasn't Homood. LOL

Dave H.



Title: I'm a winner
Post by: JephW on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Couldn't be happier with my Filipina.


Title: I'm a Winner, But...
Post by: Tim on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

..my wife is Chinese, not Filipina. Married happily almost 16 months now....

Regards, Tim



Title: Wow Tim, this is quite funny...
Post by: BrianN on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to I'm a Winner, But..., posted by Tim on Jan 6, 2002

In the bottom 1999 pic, you're wearing the same vertical striped shirt that is one of my own favorites in my wardrobe (if one would call what I got a "wardrobe").

Secondly, your wife and my daughter share the same name.  Cool.

Great story you got too.

Good looking couple you are....



Title: The losers of this game...
Post by: Bear on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

...might be hard to find.  Guys like Shadow, Howard, Kevin, Humabdos and so forth don't all come here on a regular basis.

As for me I can only say I tried the penpal route but found Honey right away in the chat rooms and decided she was it from the get-go; but I did cheat.  I prayed about it first.  Married 1 yr 5 days and not a single disagreement.

Bear



Title: Re: The losers of this game...
Post by: jon on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to The losers of this game..., posted by Bear on Jan 6, 2002

I don't think you meant to call the people loosers-some might read it that way.  I have been around for over 3 years, but just do not post often. Just because you do not see posts from someone does not mean they are not around.

Jon



Title: Your Honey Just Got Here
Post by: greg on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to The losers of this game..., posted by Bear on Jan 6, 2002

a few days or so ago. Doesn't matter how long you been married, she was in RP during all that time. Wait until after 2 years of her being here before you start Boasting. GrrrrrrrrGrrrrrGrrrrr


Title: The game of life....?
Post by: Zebson on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to The losers of this game..., posted by Bear on Jan 6, 2002

Bear, since I don't consider having a life long relationship or marriage with someone really a game. I don't think of myself as a winner or loser. And because finding the right person to be with has so much to do with who you are also, it can become much more complex. But if you want to compare it to a game perhaps at least for me, Chess would be the closest fit. But then others might consider it a game of tic tac toe.

There are so many different kinds of people that expect and hope for sometimes more and sometimes less than others here. Everyone that seeks a mate is clearly unique in seeking their own standards and expectations based upon what they have been exposed to and become, depending upon their upbringing, education and life experiences. I personally don't care to know how many people here have already been through how many relationships to get to where they are now. But they indeed can be grateful if they now have a loving caring partner that share with them mentally, emotionally, physically and spirtually. It's good to appreciate that I agree...Then again to get to this point they may already been divorced 1,2,3 or more times or gone through multiple very painful relationships, but when it comes down to it, it's all really irrelavent. What matters most to each probably is personally happiness, contentment, peace of mind and the essence that secures and hold it all together that being a shared Love for each other.

Myself, I have never been married and or divorced and that to of course is irrelavant. But yet I can truely say honestly, I am thankful for what I went through with Helen. Because I consider it a part of the growth process of life in understanding not only more about filipinas and long distance relationships, but also about myself and my expectations towards a more completely fullfilled relationship. And I don't consider it a loss at all to have learned more about who I can really trust or why. Or about listening to my own instincts and intuition more. Life is so fragile and temporary, quality friendships and relationships if solid should always be valued and held high and for those that currently have good marriages, don't ever take them for granted cause it's really not a game.

Zeb



Title: I know...
Post by: Bear on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to The game of life....?, posted by Zebson on Jan 7, 2002

you might not believe me but I think you really came out for the best.  I apologize if anything I said seemed hard on you.

Bear



Title: Well put, Zeb.
Post by: shadow on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to The game of life....?, posted by Zebson on Jan 7, 2002

Maybe if some of us treated it more like tic tac toe we would be as lucky as Bear!  Larry.


Title: Very Well Spoken!...n/t
Post by: Ray on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to The game of life....?, posted by Zebson on Jan 7, 2002

n/t


Title: Re: The losers of this game...
Post by: Humabdos on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to The losers of this game..., posted by Bear on Jan 6, 2002

Yes I got burned. I have learned a lot sence then most of it here and at Maganak.  When I met my wife in 1996 there where few if any internet cafe's in the Philippines.I didn't even own a PC till 98.  The biggest lesson I learned was don't marry a 19 year old brat.
I hate to say it but looking back on it I was a dam* fool for ever marrying her.  

BTW Bear I read everyday but have come to understand why some people just lurk ;-)

For Tom N and Bear 1 or 3 years of marriage does not give you braging rights. If both of you can say the same in 10 years then that may earn you some bragging rights but  a successful marriage to me is a life time (or at my age of 44 about 35 or 40 years I hope)!

Humabdos



Title: Re: The losers of this game...
Post by: kevin on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to The losers of this game..., posted by Bear on Jan 6, 2002

I don't post all the time here, but it doesn't mean that I've given up or anything.  Sometimes it can be time consuming to p[ost about every little detail, and most regulars know about my saga anyway.

Presently I'm at the stage where I'm trying to make new pen-pals.  So far, I've sent introductory letters to three girls, and I was introduced with an address and a picture of a fourth yesterday.  I haven't written a letter yet.

No matter what bad things people say, or horror stories I read, it's not going to stop me from looking.  I know for a fact that there are also some true gems out there too.  By the grace of God, I will find my "special someone" someday.

- Kevin



Title: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: joemc on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

no penpal, I have been married for twenty years.
I don't like the filipinas bad press on the board,but the members of the board give a real account of being married to a pina.  still happy all these years.




Title: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: SteveB on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Tomt,,,I got lied to by a vitch, but now Juliet and I have been married for 2 months.  We love each other more each day.  So, I guess I fall on both sides of your fence poll,,,,so to speak,,,,lol,,,I have always blamed myself for being scammed as much as I blame the pina,,,most of the time I think this is true,,,we let ourselves be hurt.  Afterall,,,,we are grown adults.   Just my 2 centavos

Steveb and Julietb



Title: I had a penpal,
Post by: Jimbo on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

and I'm glad I did.  Married 2 1/2 years, final AOS to remove the 'conditional' begins this month.

Jim



Title: Yippe! n/t
Post by: jon on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to I had a penpal,, posted by Jimbo on Jan 6, 2002



Title: Jon, ol' buddy!
Post by: Jimbo on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Yippe! n/t, posted by jon on Jan 7, 2002

Thanks! Good to hear from you.  Looks like we'll miss you at the Lowell Folk Festival this year :o)

Jim



Title: 2 out of 2 for me
Post by: Ray on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Two Filipinas, two good ones.

There, I just canceled out Kevin! (Just a joke Kevin :-))

Ray



Title: Got a good one...
Post by: donb2222 on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Vilma and I have been together almost 2 years, and have been happily married for 7 months.  No regrets with her or her family.
Same as you,  just went over there,  met a few, and brought home the best one for me.

Don
donb2222@hotmail.com



Title: Stephen hit 2 birds in 1 stone..tess
Post by: Stephen on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

he got a sexytary and a wife....Life's never been better.

Tess



Title: Sexytary
Post by: JephW on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Stephen hit 2 birds in 1 stone..tess, posted by Stephen on Jan 6, 2002

Nicely said.


Title: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Don J on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002

Hi Tom:

This is Mechele, I am married to Don J for 2 years and were happily married, we loved each other very much (I'm a bit shy).  Where in Cebu your wife came from?  I am from Cebu too perhaps we could exchange e-mails or vise a versa.

Regards,

Mechele



Title: Re: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Arlene on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Lets take a census, posted by Don J on Jan 6, 2002

Hi Chele!

My name is Arlene. My husband, Pete posts here once in awhile. I read your post and was wondering what part of Ginatilan you are from? My father is from Guiwanon Ginatilan, Cebu and my mom is from  Tangbo,Samboan Cebu. When my husband first visited me we went to my aunt's house and also visited my grandparents in Guiwanon Ginatilan...
I have aunt who got married to a german, they built a house there and they visit Philippines once a year. If you happen to pass by a house with a swimming pool, that's their house...Not sure if you're familiar..
Anyway, my family lives in Cebu City so I grew up there. So what part in Ginatilan are you from?

Regards,
Arlene



Title: Oh! You are from Ginatilan
Post by: Don J on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Lets take a census, posted by Arlene on Jan 6, 2002

Hi Arlene:

This is Chele, I am from Ginatilan too, I lived in Guiwanon same as your Papa's address.  I know your aunt which she married to a German guy and they build a big house their in Guiwanon.  I know them, her husband's name is Gerhard? and they have a son Ralph?

Arlene where do you live now?  In what state? It would be nice to chat you by e-mail or just send an e-mail to my husband's e-mail and I could send you back my e-mail add.

Regards,

Chele



Title: Re: Oh! You are from Ginatilan
Post by: Arlene on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Oh! You are from Ginatilan, posted by Don J on Jan 7, 2002

Yes! My dad is from Guiwanon  Ginatilan. My aunt Ester married to a German guy named Gerhard and Ralph is their son...you got it RIGHT!...;)..How far is your house from Gerhards house? Is it closer?...
Anyways, I'm here in Jackson Heights, NYC. What about you?...Where you at now? we can chat sometime or exchange emails, it's nice to have some friends here, especially that we both came from same town.

Kind regards,
Arlene



Title: Re: Re: Oh! You are from Ginatilan
Post by: Don J on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Oh! You are from Ginatilan, posted by Arlene on Jan 7, 2002

Hi Arlene:

I lived in the midwest and my house in Ginatilan is a bit far from your aunt Ester.  My house is close to the school in Guiwanon.  Just send me an e-mail to Don's e-mail ad and I could send you back.

Regards,

Chele



Title: to make this easier!
Post by: Don J on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Oh! You are from Ginatilan, posted by Don J on Jan 8, 2002

Arlene:

My wife would rather not put her email address on the board for fear that someone nasty who may be lurking on the board will send her scam emails. With that in mind you can email Mechele your email address, phone number or whatever to my email account and she will respond back to you on her email account.

She was very excited to see someone who is familiar with her hometown here on the board and is looking forward to correspond with you.

You can email Merchele at; djanow6251@aol.com

She's looking forward to hear from you.

Sincerely,

Don J



Title: OK! check yer email later...n/t
Post by: arlene on January 08, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to to make this easier!, posted by Don J on Jan 8, 2002

n/t


Title: How many guys here...
Post by: donb2222 on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Lets take a census, posted by Arlene on Jan 6, 2002

How many guys here can pronounce the names of towns  mentioned in this post?  That is my biggest problem in the Philippines.
I can't pronounce the names of the towns or streets.
Welcome to the board Arlene,  I hope you post here more often.

Don



Title: 3 out 5 But.........
Post by: Don J on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to How many guys here..., posted by donb2222 on Jan 6, 2002


My wife is from the area Arlene speaks of and my wife and her family held me prisoner for many days teaching me the correct pronunciation of the provinces :o)

Really though, aside from Cebu, Naga and a little town named Ronda were we had a head on collision with a Mercedes on the way to meet Chele parents for the first time prononcing the names of towns are quite difficult. I would hate to be lost and try and explain to someone were I am, I would never be found.

Don J



Title: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Jay on January 06, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Lets take a census, posted by tomtneal on Jan 6, 2002


I'm like you,Tom. Never had a penpal, married 7 years, she loves me and we're happily married.

Jay



Title: Re: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: tito on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Lets take a census, posted by Jay on Jan 6, 2002

Brother Jay,

D'Boys know how to pick our Filipinas.Must be all the times we spent in bars in the RP watching guys getting scamed.Congrats on your upcoming "event".That helped you get to seven years.I nominate Cris for sainthood.LOL

tito Matt



Title: Re: Re: Re: Lets take a census
Post by: Jay on January 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: Re: Lets take a census, posted by tito on Jan 7, 2002

Hey Bro,
Yeah, it's not the "traditional" way to get wise, but I sure enjoyed it.

Thank's on the congrat's, and I'll second that nomination.

"Ain't no woman like the one I got, doo-daa, doo-daa"

Jay