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Title: American Politics and Masculinity
Post by: Vox on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
No wonder we are looking for wives overseas, when you see where it got in our society, hopefuly more will realize and not allow themselves to be emasculated by the mutants.
Thefollowing articla appeared in Worldnetdaily.com Friday 10/19/01, on the third (commentary) page, at the bottom, COLUMN DU JOUR
War against masculinity.

The soft war against masculinity

Paul Craig Roberts

    If you are a heterosexual male of any race, tear yourself away from the war on terrorism and let Howard S. Schwartz inform you of your real enemy. His book, "The Revolt of the Primitive: An Inquiry into the Roots of Political Correctness," has just been released by Praeger Publishers in Westport, Conn. The book is a bombshell.
    Mr. Schwartz, a professor of organizational behavior, shows that feminism has metamorphosed from demands for gender equality into gender warfare against masculinity. The feminists' holy war against "toxic man" is as ferocious in its way as the Muslim holy war against the West.
    The virulent form of feminism attacks male sexuality and has succeeded in criminalizing masculinity itself. Feminism criminalized masculinity by inventing attitudinal crimes and conflating them with behavioral crimes.
    Mr. Schwartz shows that the routine destruction of male military careers and the disproportionate response to the Tailhook "scandal" have everything to do with feminist perception of masculine attitudes and nothing to do with concrete acts of sexual abuse, harassment or discrimination.
    Do you remember the female Marine who complained of sexual harassment because she experienced the 3-mile morning run as "demeaning to women"? If a male had made such a complaint, it would have been regarded as frivolous, and he would have been asked if he had chosen the right service. The female's complaint, however, was taken seriously. The top brass stopped the exercise while the charge was investigated.
    This recent news event underlines Mr. Schwartz's point that feminists have defined masculine performance and attitudes, such as a protective role toward women and children, as sexist and antiwoman and have lumped expressions of masculinity together with actual acts of harassment and abuse.
    Consider the case of Col. James Hallums who was removed in 1997 as chairman of the Department of Behavioral Sciences at West Point. Col. Hallums, a "soldier of the old school," was brought to West Point because of concerns over the school's deteriorating military and disciplinary standards.
    Col. Hallums' unabashed manliness, however, was out of step with a feminized military. Female faculty members charged him with sexual harassment and "creating an intimidating environment." One of his offenses was that, returning from exercise, he walked through the department in a sleeveless shirt and exercise shorts. His confidence in, and display of, his masculinity was considered by female faculty members to be an offensive act.
    Consider, also, the case of Adm. Stanley Arthur, vice chief of naval operations, veteran of 500 combat missions in Vietnam, winner of 11 Distinguished Flying Crosses, and commanding officer of U.S. Air Forces in the Gulf war who was in line for appointment by President Clinton as commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific.
    When a female lieutenant washed out of helicopter school, she blamed it on sexual harassment and enlisted Sen. David Durenberger, Minnesota Republican, in her cause. The Navy refused to capitulate but agreed to have Adm. Arthur review the record.
    Unlike Mr. Durenberger, Adm. Arthur was unaware of, or unwilling to pander to, the new sexual politics. When documented performance inadequacies prevented Adm. Arthur from overturning the Navy's decision to wash out the lieutenant, he became caught up in the "scandal."
    Feminists saw his decision as proof Adm. Arthur was guilty of keeping women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and out of combat. Mr. Durenberger put a hold on his appointment, and the Navy sacrificed its hero on the altar of political correctness.
    All Adm. Arthur did was his duty, but feminists had defined military duty as a masculine agenda. Thus, Adm. Arthur was guilty of "sexism."
    What makes it possible for extreme irrationality to run roughshod over fact, not only in academic zoos but also in society's most disciplined institution, the military? Mr. Schwartz answers that the subjective and the emotive have been elevated over the objective and reason. What counts is not what men do but what women feel.
    Women have been taught to feel victimized by men to such an extent that all expressions of masculinity are offensive to feminists. Men who have caught on to this dynamic minimize their vulnerability to charges and destruction of career by becoming effete and showing they are "in touch with their feelings" and "share your pain."
    Now that masculinity is criminalized, men who are not allied with, and protected by, feminists cannot succeed. Any doubts about this can be expelled by examining how one woman, Lt. Paula Coughlin, was able to destroy so many male naval careers with Tailhook.
    It is ironic that American males, demonized and second-class citizens in their own society, are at work liberating Afghan women from Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. Perhaps the American male should reconquer his home front before he shows his prowess abroad.


Paul Craig Roberts is a nationaly syndicated columnist.



Title: Written by a woman
Post by: Jeff S on October 21, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to American Politics and Masculinity, posted by Vox on Oct 19, 2001

http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/latin/messages/22310.html


Title: Written by a woman
Post by: Jeff S on October 21, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to American Politics and Masculinity, posted by Vox on Oct 19, 2001

http://www.planet-love.com/wwwboard/latin/messages/22310.html


Title: I really liked that
Post by: BubbaGump on October 21, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Written by a woman, posted by Jeff S on Oct 21, 2001

I don't read Peggy Noonan that often but she has written some of the most memorable articles that I have read in the last year.  


Title: Re: American Politics and Masculinity
Post by: Quasimoto on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to American Politics and Masculinity, posted by Vox on Oct 19, 2001

Personally I liked it, and I agree. I was a drill sargeant in the Army in the late Vietnam period. They stated doing tests for women for addmission into combat units. It was a joke. I could go into what happened in the tear gas hut, or on the simulated live fire field, or in the simulated shoulder carry of a wounded soldier, but I will spare you the details, except to say that most trainers were left in stunned silence at the idea when mixed with what they saw.

I just saw a post on MSN around Tuesday, by an Army public relations officer who said that women had to perform at the same standards as men. What PC crap. Even on A&E recently they had a special on women in combat marines. The women did not have to do the same obstacle course; they did not have to climb walls without aid, or circumvent other difficult obstacles. Instead they were given "team work" points. Some didn't finish the 24 hour trial, and broke down crying, but they were given bonus team work points I guess, because their tears brought the group together; only speculating. Anyway, if the guy didn't finish, he washed! If she didn't, she was given extra points for team work. Very few of the women finished the course in the 24 hours, but it didn't matter. They all graduated.

I might note that in the testing I saw, even though they did not have to do the difficult obstacles, but instead ran around them, when the time sheets were posted and they had the best times, it was not allowed to mention that they did not complete 1/3 of the course.

What I wanted was to get wounded, and see some 120 lb gal carrying me, a 185 lb guy on her shoulders through a hail of fire. I think I am dead!

Steve



Title: FIND ANOTHER PULPIT
Post by: tim360z on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to American Politics and Masculinity, posted by Vox on Oct 19, 2001

OR BECOME SOME SYNDICATED COLUMNIST SOMEWHERE ELSE


Title: Re: American Politics and Masculinity
Post by: cxsd on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to American Politics and Masculinity, posted by Vox on Oct 19, 2001

you look for wives oversea's because you are desperate loser's


Title: Your English is terrible
Post by: Reagan on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: American Politics and Masculinity, posted by cxsd on Oct 19, 2001

You obviously failed English in school. You have the English writing skills of a ten year old child. Your attitude also displays immaturity. It is real easy to hurl insults over the internet. Only cowards like you live in the shadows and hide from the light.



Title: Re: American Politics and Masculinity
Post by: cxsd on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to American Politics and Masculinity, posted by Vox on Oct 19, 2001

you look for wives oversea's because you are desperate loser's


Title: Re: Re: American Politics and Masculinity
Post by: Quasimoto on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to Re: American Politics and Masculinity, posted by cxsd on Oct 19, 2001

loser's mother's popsicle's car's

loser's is possessive my dear! If we have anything you don't, it's brain's, ball's, and happines's.

Steve



Title: American Politics and Immigration
Post by: Vox on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to American Politics and Masculinity, posted by Vox on Oct 19, 2001

If you really want to know why all these terroristic activity takes place I dare you to read this article in Worldnetdaily.com Friday 10/19/01, at news first page on top, and look at the pictures.
Boy we have a bright future, don't we? Are you ready for it?

COMING TO AMERICA
'Arab terrorists' crossing border
Middle Eastern illegals find easy entrance into U.S. from Mexico

By J. Zane Walley



Title: I see it but I don't believe it
Post by: cxsd on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to American Politics and Immigration, posted by Vox on Oct 19, 2001

This place is contaminated with losers! You failures must be kidding right? I just found this site on a fem website. Looks like the bulls are getting ready to launch a mass attack against you losers.  You rejects don't stand a chance.  So humour me a little, how much does one of these Russian "ladies" cost?


Title: I'll bite...
Post by: Bob S. on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I see it but I don't believe it, posted by cxsd on Oct 19, 2001

"So humour me a little, how much does one of these Russian 'ladies' cost?"

Cost of Vacation package trip to Moscow/ Kiev/ Manila/ Mexico City/ Rio/ Hong Kong/ Osaka...
$4000

Cost to fill out and submit fiancée or spousal visa kit and all supporting documents...
$300

Cost to bring her here, get her a small car, a quickie marriage, and file for Adjustment of Status...
$5000


The look of frothing hatred dripping from the flabby jowls of the feministas when they realize that still more superior competition has entered her once secluded hunting grounds...
Priceless



Title: Great post Bob! n/t
Post by: KenC on October 20, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I'll bite..., posted by Bob S. on Oct 19, 2001

n/t


Title: That was funny !
Post by: tfcrew on October 20, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I'll bite..., posted by Bob S. on Oct 19, 2001

Keep 'em coming.. and if you wish, please register with us.
Karl


Title: LOL!! Another Outstanding Post Bob! n/t
Post by: Dan on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I'll bite..., posted by Bob S. on Oct 19, 2001

n/t


Title: Re: Ah, my short haired round little feminist babe!
Post by: Quasimoto on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I see it but I don't believe it, posted by cxsd on Oct 19, 2001

I pay a higher price just thinking of you than I will ever pay over there. Ignorance is bliss isn't it?

Steve



Title: Crawl back in your hole little rat
Post by: Reagan on October 19, 2001, 04:00:00 AM
... in response to I see it but I don't believe it, posted by cxsd on Oct 19, 2001

You must be a loser if you are here by your own standard. I can tell you are not American and probably not a Westerner, so I guess you have an ax to grind. Get a life and stop blaming others for the failures in your life and your country.