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and belong to a yacht club. I can look out my windows and see 100 miles in any direction. I have a degree in Psych., BFD, but chose another career, I'm a garbageman and proud of it. I come from a long line of bluebloods, but my fiance is poor even by filipino standards. We'll have our wedding reception at the yacht club and in two years, head out on a four year around the world sail, yeah, Europe, Greece, the South Pacific, Indonesia, Australia, etc., etc., cool, huh?. In the meantime, I make 50g a year as a G-man(sorry no degree)...Celebrate diversity, don't slam it. Follow your dreams, but be careful, they just might come true....

... in response to Hey Westerngrrl, I live in a trailer..., posted by FL on Jan 23, 2001

I'm in the automotive industry so am close to the industry news. Remember the GM strike the year before last? Well the Flint MI, Delphi stamping plant workers went on strike for more money. The average income was $92,000 per year (about CDN$ 142,000) and the average workday 4 1/2 hours. Awww, the poor guys have to slave so hard for such low pay. Anyway this is roughly 4 times the average hourly pay of the engineers designing the parts - for tossing sheets of steel into a punch press?

... in response to Hey Westerngrrl, I live in a trailer..., posted by FL on Jan 23, 2001

Hey G-man,

I come from a line of blue bloods too. I love to dumpster dive. Maybe we're related. Do you hold your beer bottle with your pinkie finger out like me? :o) When drinking from a can, I use a "Steinway." It is a handle that clips on to my beer can. I have them in gold and silver so that I can match the appropriate can colour.

Speaking of "Steinways," a lady gave me a Yamaha Piano recently. I was searching for "treasure" on bulk trash pickup day. I usually pick up old furniture and my sister-in-law refinishes (shabby sheik). She made thousands of dollars last year selling recycled junk furniture to rich people. You know, people with college degrees. In fact, she has a Master's degree and left her career as a teacher. She now works less hours and makes more money as a "junk" furniture dealer.

By the way, it is a good thing WG was born in Canada. She might have been abandoned (or worse yet) in her ancestral homeland of China. To me, rescuing these girls from death and abandonment is a far nobler cause than worrying about "old, fat, wrinkled" White and Black guys marrying younger Asian women and treating them like queens. I have several friends that have adopted daughters from China. I wonder how many other baby Chinese girls disappear and are never found? Why are all of the Fem-Nazis after the descent guys and leave the perverts like William Jefferson Clinton alone? They turn a blind eye to the world sex slave trade and attack guys who are just trying to find true love. Oh I know, I know! Bill, and those sex slave traders are rich businessmen and professionals with college degrees. The kind that WG wants to marry. Maybe she should explain her "real" interest in us. She is probably just bored. I hope she stays! We haven't had this much fun in a while. :o)) It sure beats talking about toilet paper.

Dave H.

... in response to Hey Westerngrrl, I live in a trailer..., posted by FL on Jan 23, 2001

N/T

... in response to Hey Westerngrrl, I live in a trailer..., posted by FL on Jan 23, 2001

the schools and the friends trash you for life?  I don't think so.

... in response to And have the 'Rents....., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

Real friends don't trash, schools don't give a rats a@^% about you and "Rents(?), remember, I don't have a degree, but there's hope for you, you lowered yourself to respond to a garbageman, we won't tell your "friends"

... in response to Re: And have the 'Rents....., posted by FL on Jan 23, 2001

'Rents=Parents.  This is an anonymous messageboard.  You don't even know my real name

... in response to Re: Re: And have the 'Rents....., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

there are ways to find out! Wanna see?  HEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!!! Might be fun to publish it here, along with Daddy's name. Larry.

... in response to Re: Re: And have the 'Rents....., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

And don't want to know your name, shades of paranoia?? ...But thanks for showing my fiance what a self-centered, self righteous, shallow, AW is, now she understands. You came here questioning the age differences, got answers that you rejected, now you claim to be doing "a study"...what BS you got for tomorrow? Don't tell your friends or "rents" your here, what would they think???..... just an old, bald, fat guy engaged to a filipina that is more real woman/person than you'll ever be, even with your precious degree....

... in response to Re: Re: Re: And have the 'Rents....., posted by FL on Jan 23, 2001

So you want to keep your wife at home to all your housework?  WOW.  What a life.  Oh yeah...the next thing you want to to is to take away our right to vote, huh?  Maybe we all should stay home, not go to school.  WOW.  What a world that would be!

... in response to Real, huh?, posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

Although I haven't taken courses in women's studies, I believe you are on quite a different wavelength than Susan B. Anthony or Elizabeth Cady Stanton.  They crusaded for womens' rights, and they helped shape America into being a better place to live.  But the stuff you slam us guys about, first of all, I'm sure they could not conceive such issues.  Second of all, if they were alive today, I think they'd find the issues we're slammed about to be ridiculous.

On the same token, think of the framers of the Constitution and the separation of Church and State.  Nowadays, school vouchers are controversial, because it infers government money being diverted to schools in religious settings, among other things.  "God" can't be mentioned in public without stirring up commotion.  Morals stem from religious upbringing, therefore the logic sometimes infers that the government should be impervious to some acts (like adultery) that causes harm to others, because after all, it boils down to religious convictions, and that's as far as it goes.  The social consequences:  The breakdown of the family unit, and ultimately the breakdown of society.

- Kevin

... in response to Real, huh?, posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

I think you should grow a male organ f___ yourself

... in response to Real, huh?, posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

Where did you even remotely get the idea I want to keep my fiance, soon to be wife home???? How did you read that into what I wrote??? She has a job when she's ready for it and it won't be slamming latte's for toothpaste money, gotta keep up the reputation, you know! Again, after two years I'll force her on a 56' sailboat and force her to see the world...Gotta go, the Simpsons are on......

... in response to Re: Real, huh?, posted by FL on Jan 23, 2001

Some of the posters here seem to be angry at the fact that I want to have a management level career making a high five-low six figure starting salary.

... in response to Well..., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

I'm angry about the fact that even though the last couple of days this board has discussed almost every subject known to mankind the world over EXCEPT meeting and marrying Asian women and NOT ONCE has anyone covered technical tips on how to improve the 1/4 mile time on my TransAm!!!   :)

 Seriously, if you get that kind of money right out of school, you will either be dreaming - soon to wake to extreme disappointment - or living in an area with such unbelievable inflation that rent or house payments will quickly shrink your paycheck to more "normal" proportions.   I am an Engineer and after 16 years I still haven't reached the 6 figure mark.  I just hope to get there before I retire!

                                    SteveG

... in response to I'm not Angry about your salary........., posted by SteveG on Jan 24, 2001

Swap that hydraulic lifter cam for one with solids and more duration but not more lift - they used to call them 3/4 race cams back in my days. It'll still idle decently but will chop a second or two off your time.

- Jeff S. (fellow train driver)

... in response to OK Steve - here you go.., posted by Jeff S. on Jan 24, 2001

n/t

... in response to I'm not Angry about your salary........., posted by SteveG on Jan 24, 2001

first of all, which is lower than US $$, and secondly, a recent survey found that the starting salary of an MBA grad from my school earned an average of $70000+.  It really wouldn't be too long before I earned $90,000

... in response to Well..., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

Starting salary? thats a laugh, low 6 figure starting
salary, right out of college.......even engineers
and nuclear physicists dont get that...............
keep dreamin honey

... in response to Dream On, posted by outwest on Jan 24, 2001

Right after my Master's degree, which would likely include an MBA

... in response to Not right out of my undergrad, posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 24, 2001

Hey maybe daddy will make up the rest! lol

... in response to Re: Not right out of my undergrad, posted by humabdos on Jan 24, 2001

After getting her Master's Degree, she will have to work at McDonalds to get her work experience. ROFL. I wonder how many Ronald McDonald dollars it takes to equal 6 figures. Maybe they will pay her in burgers and fries. Maybe she is getting a "MBM" (Master's in Big Mac):o))

By the way, I am considered a millionaire in the Philippines. My annual income is well over P1,000,000. I sure hope the exchange rate stays around 50-1.

Dave "Sugar Daddy" H.

... in response to Mc Dollars, posted by Dave H on Jan 24, 2001

I learned at school that the average Mcdonalds has earned enough income  to have paid it's bills and Salaries for the Day by 10 o clock in the morning.  everything else for the day is profit.  I don't know if it is true because it sounds too good to be.

Windmill Boy

... in response to Mc Dollars, posted by Dave H on Jan 24, 2001

But why work for them when you can spill McDonald's hot coffee on your lap.  Now that's the path to a six-figure income. (just being facetious) Trouble is, I like cheap fast food, and if this sort of thing keeps happening, fast food prices will keep getting higher and higher.

- Kevin

... in response to Mc Dollars, posted by Dave H on Jan 24, 2001

n/t

... in response to I'll take a 1/4 Pounder and a super size..., posted by SteveG on Jan 24, 2001

N/T

... in response to You want an apple pie? (n/t), posted by Dave H on Jan 24, 2001

...…MacSpaghetti with banana ketchup?

Bleahhhh!

Ray

... in response to Could I please have..., posted by Ray on Jan 24, 2001

Ray and all,

I had spaghetti all over Butuan, from Greenich (think that is how it's spelled) and Jollybees to homemade. It all had cut up hotdogs in it. Is this typical for the Philippines or is it a Butuanonian thing? Since they serve it that way at Jollybees, I just assumed that it was. I didn't get to try the MacSpaghetti.

Also, I noticed that most people I spoke with pronounced pizza as "peacha." Is this typical for the PI or just the  Bisayan coming out?

Dave H.

... in response to You want hotdogs with that?, posted by Dave H on Jan 24, 2001

I think those come from Irish Setters?

Ray

... in response to You want hotdogs with that?, posted by Dave H on Jan 24, 2001

Japanese call it "pea-cha" too.

... in response to You want hotdogs with that?, posted by Dave H on Jan 24, 2001

Dave,
  Yep, "Peacha" has replaced "Pizza" all over the Philippines as far as I have seen.   I have heard rumors that in some remote parts of the Philippines, "CHOC-o-Late Peacha" is even popular!  :)  (Call me strange, but I could sit happily for an hour and just listen to Filipinas pronounce the word "chocolate"!)  Same with the hotdogs in Spaghetti too.   Since Melly has been here though we have invented our own unique version of spaghetti that is probably just as strange though so I can't laugh at the hotdog thing.  I even kind of like the hotdogs that way.  We make spaghetti with piles of cut up vegetables cooked with the meat - approx. 2 parts vegetables to 1 part meat.  
  I never tried any of the Philippine unique items on the menu when we went to McDonalds in Manila, preferring to get the familiar BigMac during the rare chances to taste American food during that month long trip!   Somehow it just doesn't seem decent to eat anything with rice in it at McDonalds!   :)
                                SteveG

... in response to Re: You want hotdogs with that?, posted by SteveG on Jan 25, 2001

Steve G

I'd Like to hear a filipina pronounce Chocolate also  I'm sure it is interesting. My former French Chefs Give it a nice spin also.  Today it took me 2 minutes to figure out that what my Austrian chef was Saying was Baklava  ha ha ha.

While Chocolate Mole' Chicken is a traditional Mexican dish. Chocolate pizza sounds funky.  Although Little Ceasers did chocolate ravioli  and we have done chocolate sushi as a dessert before.

Windmill Boy

... in response to Re: You want hotdogs with that?, posted by SteveG on Jan 25, 2001

Hi Steve,

Thanks! I thought maybe I was dreaming again. :o) I know what you mean about the word chocolate. I would buy a ton of CHOC-o-Late just to hear my fiancee pronounce it. Soooo sexy! Sexual CHOC-o-Late (Mark Henry weight lifter -TV wrestler). Filipinos are into TV wrestling. Many called me "Stone Cold." I wanted my fiancee to call me Sexual White CHOC-o-Late. She laughed and whimpered a cute little "nooooo." I tried to get her to call me "the other white meat" also. Pork being #1 in the Philippines. Again no luck. ;O) I settled on trying to find ways to trick her into saying "CHOC-o-Late." :o))

Pork Does A Body Good.

CHOC-o-Late, melts in your mind, not in your hand (hopefully). :o)

Dave "CHOC-o-Late Pork" H.

... in response to CHOC-o-Late!, posted by Dave H on Jan 25, 2001

Dave,

Ask her to pronounce "shrimps". Let me know if it comes out anything like "shyrms". It sounds so cute :-)

Ray

... in response to CHOC-o-Late!, posted by Dave H on Jan 25, 2001

n/t

... in response to What about "choc-o-EARLY" ?!, posted by kevin on Jan 25, 2001

abc

... in response to You want an apple pie? (n/t), posted by Dave H on Jan 24, 2001

abcdefg

... in response to Mc Dollars, posted by Dave H on Jan 24, 2001

NOT!

... in response to Dream On, posted by outwest on Jan 24, 2001

Actually, a software engineer can get 50-60K depending on the market and what school he/she came from.  I entered the market at 21K 13 years ago (a step up from $3.10/hr at the supermarket).

Jon

... in response to Well..., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

Is that in American or Canadian Dollars?  -- Ouch I couldn't resist.  Actually I grew up close to Ontario and I am working now for a Canadian Company.

Money won't bring you happiness.  While it may increase your comfort level, money also has the tendency to make your life more complicated and problematic.

By your standards, I am a poor but content pastry chef who would rather have brown on his hands (chocolate) than the brown on your nose it will take to earn your precious salary.  Just because you have all the degrees in the world doesn't mean that they are going to throw money at you.

Excelsior! - onwards and upwards (the New York State motto)

Windmill Boy

... in response to Re: Well..., posted by Windmill Boy on Jan 24, 2001

Hi W.B.,

I agree! I too was  always better at keeping the brown (chocolate)on my hands and in my mouth. Some people seem to like to have it smeared all over their noses. I guess someone has to do it. Better them than us. :*)

Dave H.

... in response to Well..., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

When you get your first job out of school, please come back here and post your starting salary.

Why do you assume that some here are angry or jealous of your "wants"? You seem to assume that most of the men on this forum are a bunch of uneducated low-income wannabees who are jealous of your impending degrees? ROTFLMAO!

That just shows how little you really know about us. You seem to be so wrapped up in yourself that I’m sure you don’t want to know, which is just fine with me. I raised three daughters who have all gone through that 21-year-old know-it-all phase that you are in now. Thank God they have all grown out of it!

But please stay around and continue to place your foot in your mouth. We haven’t had this much fun since our last troll died and went to hell :-)

Ray

... in response to Well..., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

I won't even tell you how much money
I make.That's one of the problems with american women.Money is too important.

... in response to Well..., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

I won't even tell you how much money
I make.That's one of the problems with american women.Money is too important.

... in response to Well..., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

I won't even tell you how much money
I make.That's one of the problems with american women.Money is too important.

... in response to Well..., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

Which post? Not one post, not one example of anger at your desire to make $$ has been posted by anyone, nada, zilch, zip. That still does not explain your interpretation of my desires to have a houseslave. Most posts have supported your desires and dreams. However most posts also suggest that you "live" life before you pass judgment on what life is and isn't. If life was so cut and dried, so set by expectations and realized desires, this posting board(many others too) would not exist and have no reason to...
   Everyone here has drawn from experience and "living" to offer you their opinions good or bad, serious or sarcastic. This is a "study", right?

... in response to Well..., posted by Westerngrrl on Jan 23, 2001

In Canadian or American Dollars --  Ouch I couldn't resist

Money won't bring you happiness.  While it may bring you an increased level of comfort  it also has the tendency to complicate your life and cause more problems also.

From a poor but content pastry chef who would rather have brown on his hands (chocolate) than a brown Nose doing what you have to do to earn your precious high salary.

Windmill Boy

... in response to Re: Well..., posted by Windmill Boy on Jan 24, 2001

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