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Ok fellas, got a question for all of you. I notice most everyone is in agreement about not going after the "young" hotties, due to the imaturity,propensity to scam etc., The question is, what about the older women, 30+ who are single and childless, and who are definately "hotties" in their own right.  Would'nt the odds be better  that the relationship/marriage would be more able to stand the "test of time", than choosing someone much younger? And I am not overlooking the "plain Jane's" , but I feel that if I travel that far,first and foremost I have to be beyond a shadow of a doubt physically attracted, then I go for the "mindset",to see where she is at upstairs, and last but not least, if the "chemistry" is right, then we have a winner. Does anyone agree with me on this?

... in response to The Older "Eye Candy", posted by FanMan on Oct 13, 2005

The odds are much greater that you will have a healthy relationship with her, because she has basically been put through the ringer buy those local Hombres.

The women are more serious about finding a good guy and more hesitant about giving in so easily to the locals. For that reason alone they are single with no children.

Good Luck! I say go for it!

Mike
www.yourlatinwife.com
mike@yourlatinwife.com

... in response to Re: The Older "Eye Candy", posted by Gringo Loco on Oct 14, 2005

LOL......

When is your webpage going to have any girls_

Sounds like a scam to me.

... in response to Re: The Older "Eye Candy", posted by Gringo Loco on Oct 14, 2005

FanMan

(The question is, what about the older women, 30+ who are single and childless, and who are definately "hotties" in their own right.)

Gringo Loco

(The odds are much greater that you will have a healthy relationship with her, because she has basically been put through the ringer buy those local Hombres. The women are more serious about finding a good guy and more hesitant about giving in so easily to the locals. For that reason alone they are single with no children.)

Calipro

(She hasn't made love in so long saving herself for you that she will make love to you for hours on end.)

What's wrong with this picture? hehehe !!!

THE WOMAN DOESN'T EXIST !!! And if she does, she will be next to impossible to find.

Go to www.picturetrail.com
type in member name calipro2004
the password is the four letter name of the NBA team in phoenix Arizona. No caps.

Now these women really do exist and if they make love to you it is because they want to and not because they are desperate to find a husband.

... in response to HHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO!!!, posted by Calipro on Oct 14, 2005

Calipro,

Why haven't you submitted your agency web site?  I noticed you have the PL logo installed.  Seems a waste to do that and never submit it here.

... in response to HHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO!!!, posted by Calipro on Oct 14, 2005

update your pics!  Thanks, TNC

... in response to HHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO!!!, posted by Calipro on Oct 14, 2005

GUD LAWD!!! Hey CaliPro, where you the lucky man on the other end of that camera?

... in response to Re: HHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO!!!, posted by FanMan on Oct 14, 2005

Done other.

... in response to HHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO!!!, posted by Calipro on Oct 14, 2005

I see your point. Yeah! Sure!

... in response to HHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO!!!, posted by Calipro on Oct 14, 2005

all these girls are models, and i doubt an average guy would be able to keep them as a wife for very long, but if your after just sex, well, make the trip and spend the money, but your not going to have much to show for it at the end, except maybe a smile on your face and an empty wallet.

... in response to Re: HHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO!!!, posted by mudd on Oct 14, 2005

If you can't get the girl in bed with trying to buy her then you are out of your league.

None of these women are prostitutes.

So if you can{t get them in bed you will probably have frown on your face but your wallet will be full.

... in response to Re: HHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO!!!, posted by mudd on Oct 14, 2005

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I guess if they don't have the confidence to keep them no they won't. If they suffer from complexes and a low self esteem then there is no doubt they will lose them.

Is that all it is to you? a trip to get laid? If so why wouldn't you just do that here in the states?

For the open minded, there are sincere women in South America, you just have to weed through them to find the right one.

Beautiful or not. If you show the confidence and sense of control and security of your life, then they will be very dedicated to you.

If you remind them constantly of how you feel about them then you will be rewarded ten fold with their love and dedication!!!

Regards, Mike

www.yourlatinwife.com

... in response to Re: Re: HHHEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO..., posted by Gringo Loco on Oct 14, 2005

Some guys are such losers with women that they think that the only way to get them in bed is to throw money at them.

... in response to The Older "Eye Candy", posted by FanMan on Oct 13, 2005

If you go for a young hottie and get one you are a winner. There is no way on earth a woman twenty or more years your junior can scam you unless you are a complete fool.

And I have to tell that most wouldn't even bother to try and fool you. They are having to much fun dancing and dating to worry about going out with someone that they don{t really care about. Besides if they are childless and a real hottie they have a good shot at meeting a decent colombiano to marry. So why would they even bother going out with you? Well you are going to have to have something going on or they won't. You have to have some kind of good looks and a personality or forget it.

Well if you can{t get yourself a young hottie by all means go for the older models. If they are over thirty they have fewer options than a younger hottie by far. They probably will give you quite a bit of slack in the looks and personality department.

But be warned. Older women can be trechurous. They are more despertate that any young hottie ever dreamed of being. The clock is running and they know it. They have almost all be screwed over a number of times in their lives and can justify almost anything to get ahead. Worst of all they are capable of telling good lies coupled with long range planning. They are the kiss of death for the dumb gringo that can't even tell if an 18 year old is lying to him or if she really likes him or not.

I say go for the young hotties first. If you can't get one than you have no other alternative than to deal with the older women. Only choose them as a last resort and don{t pick one that is to good looking. Remember you couldn't get a young hottie in the first place and you probably won't be able to hang on to older looker once she gets to the states. No sense in you going all the way to Colombia to get a nice women just to be dumped again once you get back to the states. hehehe!

On the bright side most older women should be grateful that you married them. After all they sure don{t get much attention by the colombianos.

But remember gratitude is one of the least enduring of human emotions. It can also lead to guilt and eventually to hate.

Be carefull with the oldies but goodies. Get yourself a hottie if you can.

... in response to You got it backwards....., posted by Calipro on Oct 14, 2005

n/t

... in response to You got it backwards....., posted by Calipro on Oct 14, 2005

It wasn't the kind of attention that she wanted. You are right about one thing - very few Colombianos can afford to get serious with a woman who has kids no matter how attractive she is.

... in response to You got it backwards....., posted by Calipro on Oct 14, 2005

Point well taken, Thanks

... in response to The Older "Eye Candy", posted by FanMan on Oct 13, 2005

If you are looking for a Latina who is 30+, attractive, and CHILDLESS, you may have a long wait. Most Latinas above the age of 25 have a child or two. But I agree with you- It would be more wise to choose an older, more mature lady if you are looking for a long term relationship. The chances of the relationship standing the test of time would be better in my opinion.

... in response to Re: The Older "Eye Candy", posted by zack on Oct 14, 2005

It depends on where you are looking. I have met several(as in 10 or more) in the past several months that are between 30-39, all really attractive , all with good jobs. Most drive there own car and live in there own apartment.Many have Visas to the US. But they are not in Cali, they are in Bogota, Caracas, Lima and Sao Palo. If you concentrate on just a city like cali, the the odds are not too good to find an older lady without children, but if you broaden your search to more cosmopolitan cities , then you have a better chance. I have to disagree somewhat with calipro in that older women are more desperate. I have not found this to be the case. They are more into there profession, this is true, but the same theme seems to be there with the older women as with a lot of the 23-28 ladies--THEY DO NOT WANT A LATIN MAN FOR THERE HUSBAND !. Me personaly, i will not look for a woman under the age of 26. I might go Rumber with a young one, but to have a decent relationship, the young ones do not have the qualities i am looking for. Anybody can get a young hottie if you got some bucks, it is meeting and keeping the better educated ladies that you will find as a big challenge. I also do not see the older ones as much of a scam artist as the younger ones. Maybe they did when they were younger, but with age comes maturity. Not all are saints, some are prone to scams, but so are many AW.

KB

... in response to Re: The Older "Eye Candy", posted by zack on Oct 14, 2005

It depends on where you are looking. I have met several(as in 10 or more) in the past several months that are between 30-39, all really attractive , all with good jobs. Most drive there own car and live in there own apartment.Many have Visas to the US. But they are not in Cali, they are in Bogota, Caracas, Lima and Sao Palo. If you concentrate on just a city like cali, the the odds are not too good to find an older lady without children, but if you broaden your search to more cosmopolitan cities , then you have a better chance. I have to disagree somewhat with calipro in that older women are more desperate. I have not found this to be the case. They are more into there profession, this is true, but the same theme seems to be there with the older women as with a lot of the 23-28 ladies--THEY DO NOT WANT A LATIN MAN FOR THERE HUSBAND !. Me personaly, i will not look for a woman under the age of 26. I might go Rumber with a young one, but to have a decent relationship, the young ones do not have the qualities i am looking for. Anybody can get a young hottie if you got some bucks, it is meeting and keeping the better educated ladies that you will find as a big challenge. I also do not see the older ones as much of a scam artist as the younger ones. Maybe they did when they were younger, but with age comes maturity. Not all are saints, some are prone to scams, but so are many AW.

KB

... in response to The Older "Eye Candy", posted by FanMan on Oct 13, 2005

I don't really understand what the question is here. I mean, unless you are in your 30's then why wouldn't us men in our 40's 50's date/marry a woman in her 30's if she's "got it"? you can bet they are more mature "upstairs" my friend. Having a young, extra-hot, extra firm bride can get boring if she has nada decir, believe me.

... in response to The Older "Eye Candy", posted by FanMan on Oct 13, 2005

My wife at 42: http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=utopiacowboy

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005

Thanks for all the nice comments. I wasn't fishing for them but they're great to hear anyway. Just hope you keep some of the older ladies in mind! One thing about my wife, she is always smiling and happy and yes, she is very trustworthy. What you see is what you get.

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005

I just hope "mi esposa" looks this good 11 years from now.  Congratulations!

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005

Your wife is very beautiful.  Thanks for sharing.  Its good to put a face with this wonderful woman that you are always raving about :-)  Your relationship is an inspiration to many, including me.

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005

Your wife  is beautiful, I will keep my options open in regards to age, no doubt about that. Thanks

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005


Dayyum good...congrats & the best to you & yours!

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005


VERY nice looking esposa for being 42. Good job, amigo.

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005

So that is the Utopia Cowgirl...

Nice job! She is a good looking girl. I would go for a girl mid 30's with no problems at all. One of my draw backs is that I am not where I want to be in life right now. I would think a girl in her mid 30's would want a little more and I am still working on it. I am set emotionally and ready to settle, it's the housing situation that I am talking about. (Right now I am in an apartment, for the next couple of years) It's a nice complex with pool, jaquzzi's tennis courts, tennis lessons included, etc..., but I would think that a girl 30+ would want something more stable like a house. Maybe it is just my experience here?

Another thing is that I look young. Yeah all you guys say it, but I really do. I am guessed at 27 most of the time. It runs in my family. My Mom and Dad are in their 60's without gray hair. My grandpa didn't get any gray until his late 70's. I have many relatives that live to be 100+.  I go for girls 26-29. My logic is that they may be able to settle for an apartment for 2-3 years much easier, but again that is only from my experience here. Another concern that I have is that if I go for an older girl I would like to know that she is standing the test of time too, so that is why I am in the late 20's range. It's not all about the physical to me, but it plays a partial role. I know where my league is and I think it is important to stay there. The girls I talk to there are the ones that are physically in my league here, except with the personality, and values that I can't find here. I think it is important to stay in one's range here.
For example, if you date 4's here and stay in 4's there, then it is automatically a step up when compared to a 4 here. The grass will continually look greener for the undecided.

Pete and ChrisF have nice looking girls too. I would think that any guy mid 40's + would hop on this type of girl like they have, but I guess if you are in this because you never got a decent looking girl in your life here in the States, then you may be persuaded to go for a young one. Let's face it, there are a lot of dorks in this game. Before anyone starts flaming me, I know that some people just click regardless of age. I know it happens, but we also have some of you pastey, milk toast dudes out there (maybe not here, but I have seen this type) and that is what I am refering to. Without a doubt, someone will take these dude's girls when they get here if they go out of their league.

Well, I orginally started this post just to say that it was cool to see UC's wife and pay him a compliment and now I am typing away. My point is: Balance the big head with the little one.

On that note, I will jet...

V-Dude

... in response to Re: Utopia Cowgirl, posted by valleydude on Oct 13, 2005

I concur about the housing thing primarily. I missed a chance to buy a house at an opportune time at a steal, about 6 years ago, but being a single guy, I thought it made no sense to do it at the time.(dumb move) Now with California's housing costs, it is cheaper to just rent in some places. I too wonder do Latinas value homeownership as being more stable, moreso than one's profession. I will never do anything more than rent for my remaining time in California, even when I finish school, and am making the serious dough. I just don't see the economics working out in my favor. However should I come across a good deal and I am in the position to take advantage, then I will. But for my future wife, it will either be a condo,townhome,or a reasonable single family home, rental of course.

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005

Good for you bubba! No way I would have even come close to guessing her age, congrats. -TNC

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005

I noticed something in the photos of your wife that is a  rarely mentioned feature in women--maybe one that's  extremely underappreciated.  

She has a very pleasant, trustworthy face.  I'd wager that she has a mature, mild-mannered and agreeable personality to match.    

... in response to Re: Check it out., posted by doombug on Oct 13, 2005

Totally!

When I read Doomy's posts I know he will either rip on you or agree with you, but all in all he will say what he thinks and
I totally agree with him on this one.

I always take this into consideration and this is the first time I have seen it else where.

Nice post! That was good to see!

V-Dude

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005

she looks much younger, exactly what i was referring to when i said there are many hot older mature women, good for you UC
JK

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005

UTC,

You are a lucky man my fellow Canuck/ Transplanted into a Texan / Paisa woman loving  man.

How about her sister with the sexy legs ?

Canadaman

... in response to Check it out., posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005

She looks like a happy woman. I assume you are worthy of such and content yourself.

... in response to The Older "Eye Candy", posted by FanMan on Oct 13, 2005

[This message has been edited by jediknight]

i've seen many women in their 30's and 40's that are very hot and sexy so don't worry about missing out on anything by not going for the younger ones. going for a mature woman involves getting to know her more than a younger one, she will have more exerience with life, probably be more independent and have had time to know what she wants in a man. as is always mentioned here, there are many possibilites, you can meet a desperate older woman who is afraid of being alone, getting left behind or someone that is comfortable with who she is and would love to have a man but will not die if he doesn't appear. there could be many reasons why a woman is single and childless, perhaps she was in a long term relationship that didn't work out or she doesn't put up with the macho womanizing bs that is so rampant in colombian men, maybe she won't settle for anything less than her ideal or becuase of work just hasn't had the opportunity to meet someone who wants to have a serious relationship.

my fiancee has many single girlfriends in their late 20's to early 30's, one is in a relationship but he doesn't want to get married yet, one had a boyfriend for 3 years and he cheated on her, another has a boyfriend that is so imature that SHE is the one that doesn't want to get married to him, but the weird thing is that she is afraid to let go and find someone else, another is very religious and is looking for someone who will share her beliefs, so there are many reasons why there are older single women, i think that you would do better to go for these, especially if you are older. i would not go for someone more than 15 years my junior....my fiancee is 10 years younger than me.
JK

... in response to Re: The Older "Eye Candy", posted by jediknight on Oct 13, 2005

Colombia has an extraordinary number of widows. I went to a wedding once with my wife and three other women in the car. There were three widows including my wife, a former widow.

... in response to Let's not forget, posted by utopiacowboy on Oct 13, 2005

[This message has been edited by DavidMN]

My gosh! Accidents, violence, disease? Statistically, I think your car ride is what they call an "outlier," but I agree with your point that widows might be overlooked as great marriage material.

... in response to Re: Let's not forget, posted by DavidMN on Oct 13, 2005

That it was an "outlier" but it is not at all unusual to encounter a Colombiana who is fairly young to be a widow.

... in response to The Older "Eye Candy", posted by FanMan on Oct 13, 2005

I have found that women over thirty that aren't married have some issues, mainly mental. Only exeptions are women that were in very long term relationships that got dumped in there thirties. But by thirty a women has been abused mentally by so much in life, that there bags are REAL heavy...

... in response to Re: The Older "Eye Candy", posted by corv on Oct 13, 2005

Huh???

In my experience, Latinas over 30 are less likely to have/bring any issues/baggage into a relationship than most women. I know quite a few, through my wife, who remained single just because they were unwilling to settle for the typical Latin male behavior. Maybe you were referring to AW?

... in response to Re: Re: The Older "Eye Candy", posted by Red Clay on Oct 13, 2005

There are no differences that I have found in the women themselves other than they are from a more masculine dominated  society and willing to be more traditional due to their culture. They have baggage. The older they are living with their parents, the more set in their ways and not accustomed to change. You have to be very lucky or wise to find a good woman anywhere. Latinas due to their economics are more accepting, and because of their beauty, more desirable, but to say they are less likely to have baggage when the only way they can avoid getting used by the Colombian men is to stay at home under Mom and Dad or have a long term relationship that if they are even talking to you, the guy died or ended up leaving them, is naive. Yes there are "good ones" that have been to college and have never left home at 30, have a curfew at 30, and don't know anything else, but is that what you want? How well are you getting to know these women to say they have less baggage? Their lives are usually pretty intense just  by being where they are.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: The Older "Eye Candy&qu..., posted by soltero on Oct 13, 2005


..."you have to be very lucky or wise to find a good woman anywhere..."

Already have, guess I'm just lucky and wise :)

"Yes there are "good ones" that have been to college and have never left home at 30, have a curfew at 30, and don't know anything else, but is that what you want? How well are you getting to know these women to say they have less baggage? Their lives are usually pretty intense just by being where they are."

She has been to college, never left home before 30, no curfew, (she laughed at that one) learned fluent english, visited the US before we ever met, so she "knew" a thing or two prior to our relationship. After 4 years of having  one of the best marriages on PL, we're getting to know each other pretty well.

In fairness, I did date a few that had some baggage, (Latinas that were living in the US). Thankfully they are a distant memory and I didn't waste much time on them. Honestly though, I have not detected any AW-type baggage among my wife, her close friends, my inlaws who are female, etc.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: The Older "Eye Cand..., posted by Red Clay on Oct 14, 2005

Congratulations, you have found a jewel. Usually, the ones that go to college do so with tremendous family support and never leave home until they marry. That is one of the best case scenarios. But there are many others. For every woman who fits the profile of your wife, there are twenty others that don't. I am sure that she can agree to that, or admit that the number is probably higher. To say these women do not have baggage paints a picture that leads to misunderstanding, and misunderstanding can lead to failure. If you are basing your opinion of Latinas off of your wife, her friends, and in-laws, they are probably all very similar to her as they are all a part of her circle. There are many others that aren't. Just my two cents.

... in response to Re: Re: The Older "Eye Candy", posted by Red Clay on Oct 13, 2005

I should have made it clear I was talking about AW. I don't have any experiences with over thirty latinas....

... in response to Re: Re: The Older "Eye Candy", posted by Red Clay on Oct 13, 2005

this is true, in colombia the days when women had to marry by 21 no matter what are slowly disappearing, women are not settling for less anymore, especially in the cities, they are more independent now more than ever.
JK

... in response to Re: The Older "Eye Candy", posted by corv on Oct 13, 2005


"...(their) bags are REAL heavy... "

All they have to do is get rid of the garbage. How? By reprogramming the mind. Impossible? Difficult, but not impossible.