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I guess the newest revenue source for ACG is to charge a fee of $10 to be a member if you want to read the profiles. Before you could in addition to seeing additional pictures of the girls but not anymore. I guess if you are real interested and serious about going then $10 isnt a big deal but it does turn one off as compared to calivip who doesnt charge for that and from a marketing perspective, it makes calivip more likely to get my business. Perhaps ACG is going for the lookie lou's and make some extra dinero. I actually like Jamie's site and would probably prefer baq based on the bad press I seem to read here all the time about cali except its impossible for me to get there from socal without flying all night and sitting in an airport half a day, lucky for you east coasters.....I still havent figured out where to go next, except back to spanish classes to get better at that before my next trip..... :)

... in response to ACG new member fees, posted by locoabogado on Aug 15, 2005

ACG and the new format made it hard for me to know enough about the gals to use their services in my upcoming Sept. trip.  10 dollars is a drop in the bucket but it rubbed me the wrong way so now I am spending double to stay at Cali-Vip where I can at least see and know a bit about the girls in advance (Even if they are shills!)
Actually I probably would have stayed at Cali vip anyway just to see what they are about and see if I am looking at a bunch of shills or the real thing.  
Fathertime

... in response to Re: ACG new member fees, posted by fathertime on Aug 15, 2005

If you are going to stay at an agency you might as well cut your balls off and take a full page ad in "El Pais" to tell everybody in Cali who you are going out with and what you are doing. hehehe!!!

... in response to rank amateurs, posted by Calipro on Aug 15, 2005

Man I must be slow.  I wish I understood what you are telling me.  I will be at Vip in 2 weeks and am prepared to make an ass out of myself if that helps!
Fathertime

... in response to Re: rank amateurs, posted by fathertime on Aug 15, 2005

Well let me spell it out.

One major draw back to staying at most agencies is that they don't let you take women to your room. I hear Mike runs things a little different and women can go to your room if they want. But I have to tell you that staying over night at an agency is probably the last place a girl would want to stay.

Every thing you say and do will be common knowledge. The secretaries are friends with the women in the agencies. That is how they get them to show up for appointments with guys that they have never seen.

If the secretaries ask you what you think of some girl be vague because it will get back to her. If you are dating more than one girl they will know.

I suggest that you stay at the Raddison Hotel. It's five minutes from CaliVip. Get out and see every agency and really see what Cali has to offer.

... in response to Re: Re: rank amateurs, posted by Calipro on Aug 15, 2005

Calipro, Thanks for spelling it out for me.  Lots of good info. for me although ACG did not seem to care about the sleepover thing.  The girls left on there own at a late hour.  Sleeping over does not matter too much really since I will have just met them but I am a guy so I rarely ever turn it down.  I must have known intuitively not to give details to the secretary so I will not worry much about that.   All in all I think an agency is still a pretty good choice for me at this point.  After this, (My second trip) I will consider the hotel route.   I am confident that I will meet someone I want to investigate further.  
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Fathertime

... in response to Re: ACG new member fees, posted by fathertime on Aug 15, 2005

on another forum.  the feature lasted just one week as the selection of at least marginally attractive women was exhausted.  (the one week duration included reruns)

he is now posting "Babes of the Aleutian Islands with Seals" that has been running nearly two weeks now.  

... in response to someone was posting "Calivip Girl o..., posted by Malandro on Aug 15, 2005

It went over the top when guys who were pissed at the guy started picking the women apart,one being an ex of a friend of mine.He didn't appreciate it.

Pete

... in response to Re: someone was posting "Calivip Gi..., posted by Pete E on Aug 16, 2005

I do not advocate what he was doing.

... in response to someone was posting "Calivip Girl o..., posted by Malandro on Aug 15, 2005

I visited that site not long ago, I think because it was mentioned here. After a bit of browsing I found myself thinking, "Is it just me, or are these women not exactly knockouts?" Still, posting their pictures for ridicule is over the top in meanness. Anyone who posts pictures like that, or adds peanut-gallery comments, ought to post his own picture for critique as well; chances are, if they are such studs themselves they would find all the 10s they so obviously deserve right here in the U.S.

... in response to Re: someone was posting "Calivip Gi..., posted by Bueller on Aug 16, 2005

they were posted by a seemingly overzealous fan of those particular women from that site.  one could even suspect that the poster has some particular financial interest in the site but that would be mere speculation.

what do you got against Aleutian  Islands' women anyway?

the problem being, as you noted, the women are not exactly stellar beauties and comments by other posters were accurate observations.  

... in response to the pictures were not posted for ridicul..., posted by Malandro on Aug 16, 2005

"seemingly overzealous fan”? ROFL! You mean shameless agency shill, right?

I don’t know why anyone would want to do business with lying spammers. They plant shills on the forum, harvest e-mail addresses from the private member’s area for their spam list, and then don’t even have the guts to admit it and apologize to the forum.

SCREW SPAMMERS!!!

... in response to CaliVIP Sucks!, posted by Ray on Aug 16, 2005

n/t

... in response to someone was posting "Calivip Girl o..., posted by Malandro on Aug 15, 2005

that could be true, but at least they dont have as many gold diggers as ACG.

... in response to someone was posting "Calivip Girl o..., posted by Malandro on Aug 15, 2005

Mal:

Where are they posting "Babes of the Aleutian Islands with Seals" ???

I haven't seen that one.

... in response to Re: someone was posting "Calivip Gi..., posted by CelticUrge on Aug 15, 2005

The Squaws Along The Yukon Are Good Enough For Me! (Anybody besides me remember that song?)

... in response to Re: Re: someone was posting "Calivi..., posted by Michael B on Aug 17, 2005

No, I never heard that one. Post the lyrics.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: someone was posting "Ca..., posted by CelticUrge on Aug 18, 2005

According to the place where I found the lyrics, this song reached #2 in the country charts back in 1960. Since we're using it for 'learning' about foreign (and/or exotic) women, I'm going to hazard a guess that constitutes 'fair use' on the copyrights.

HANK THOMPSON

MOST OF ALL

(Capitol T-1360) 1960
Produced by Ken Nelson

SQUAWS ALONG THE YUKON
written by Cam Smith
© 1936 American Music

There's a salmon-colored girl who sets my heart awhirl
Who lives along the Yukon far away
Where the Northern Lights they shine she rubs her nose to mine
She cuddles close and I can hear her say

(chorus) Ooga ooga mooska which means that I love you
If you'll be my baby I'll ooga ooga mooska you
Then I take her hand in mine and set her on my knee
The squaws along the Yukon are good enough for me

She makes her underwear from hides of grizzly bear
And bathes in ice cold water every day
Her skin I love to touch but I just can't touch it much
Because her fur lined parka's in the way

repeat chorus

She has the Air Corps down the Sourdoughs hang around
Chechakos try to date her night and day
With a landing gear that's fine and a fuselage divine
And a smile that you can see a mile away

repeat chorus

Carry me back to old Alaska
The squaws along the Yukon are good enough for me

... in response to someone was posting "Calivip Girl o..., posted by Malandro on Aug 15, 2005

I am sure there was some humor there that I missed!  I think what you are saying is that Cali vip has ugly girls.  I must have poor taste in beauty than.  
Fathertime

... in response to Re: someone was posting "Calivip Gi..., posted by fathertime on Aug 15, 2005

One strategy that works with more regularity is "go ugly early". Take a good stiff drink, then go for it.

... in response to ACG new member fees, posted by locoabogado on Aug 15, 2005

Don't paint yourself into a corner.

You can go to ACG and see all of the photos for free including photos that aren't available on the website at any price.

The same goes for every other agency in Cali. Deciding what agency you are going to use before checking it out in person is foolish.

A ten minute taxi ride and an hour of your time checking each agency out in person is time well spent.

... in response to Re: ACG new member fees, posted by Calipro on Aug 15, 2005

But that means that you are not going to stay there correct? So is your preference to then stay at the intercontinental or some other hotel/apartment setting. This will be my first time in Cali so of course I dont know much about the city other than the attorney I know there. So if you dont stay there then what kind of deal do you arrange, pick the girls you want and pay per girl you pick that actually shows up? How do you negotiate said deal then, I dont want to get gringoed?

... in response to Re: Re: ACG new member fees, posted by locoabogado on Aug 15, 2005

Personally I wouldn't stay at any agency.

Hire your own private interpreter if you don't speak spanish and stay at a nice hotel.

ACG is the best for the least. At $450 for a yearly membership you can't go wrong. But if you want the best service I would negotiate a per cita rate. Not just at ACG but every agency in Cali.

I'm going down to Cali next week and I'll use the services of all the agencys in Cali.

AllColombianGirls
LatinEncounters
South of the Boarder
Latin American Models
Cali Vip
Latin Best
Latin Internet
Latin Love

I have bought yearly memberships at all the major agencies in Cali in the past and I have personally recieved good service from all of them.

But that doesn't mean you will. I have listen to Jake and others complain about getting virtually no service from some agencies after paying. One story was the only lady some guy met was a pregant woman. hehehe !!

I can go to any agency in Cali and meet the woman that I want to meet. I can even go on a TLC tour and get the phone numbers of the ten best looking women at the party in under two hours.

The only question is can you.

... in response to Re: Re: Re: ACG new member fees, posted by Calipro on Aug 15, 2005

What is a reasonable per cita rate? Are there spanish interpreters that are also paid as drivers as well? Kind of a combo gig or just use the taxi services? How do you find one before you get there or when you get there? I speak decent spanish but am going back to school to get much more solid before I go back down. Too bad they changed the TLC tour to thansgiving, if it was still over christmas, I'd take you up on that as a bet dude...show me that VIP's got game... :) This may sound really strange but I'll walk up to any latina down south but here in the states wtih AW's, I just dont cause I am not tall dark and handsome, nor rich and sophisticated and dont lie really well even though I am an attorney and spare me the jokes on that one please. I really had a good time in Panama, I just wish the girls were better looking. Thanks for the good info, this is what I was hoping to get out of this site...how good is your spanish??

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: ACG new member fees, posted by locoabogado on Aug 15, 2005

The cita rates vary from about 50,000 to 120,000 pesos depending on the agency.

LainEncounters will try hard to get you to pay the five hundred dollar fee for five days of service. Their per cita rate will be about $100. It is by far the most expensive agency and I would use them last unless there is only one or two girls you want to meet. Then it is actually cheaper to pay $100 to meet one girl than the normal $500.

E-mail me at: calipro2004@aol.com and I'll send you contact information of an interpreter driver I use sometimes.