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As a foreward to this series of posts, I must ask Patrick and Hoda to promptly delete any derogatory posts that are directed at me and my posts due to differences in political views.  My fiancee's experiences here with me do not have anything to do with politics.  We all know to whom I am referring.  In the past week or 2 I have noticed a marked decline in the posts by those particular individuals.  I hope they remain in lurk mode for this series.

The first 3-4 days together were spent sightseeing South Florida (SF).  This was her first time to the US, though she has been to England.  We went to the 2 major supermarket chains here; Publix and Winn-Dixie.  She was surprised by the high prices of food here but also marvelled at the huge variety of food products available here.  SF is a very cosmopolitan area and the selections at grocery store reflect the LA, SA, and Caribbean cultures that are represented here.  Publix even has guarana and Brahma, popular Brazilian soft drink and beer, respectively.

My fiancee was also pleasantly surprised by the housing here.  Many neighborhoods in SF are composed of single family homes with yards and without security bars on the windows and doors, though there are also many with such security measures.  She found this very mnice since in Brazil, people are preferring to live in high rise apartment buildings with security fences and gates and 24-hour guards.

Her biggest reaction, by far, in the first few days, was to my home.  She has very clear  and strong ideas about how "HER" home should be run.  "MY" home didn't measure up.  After sizing up my place her first day here, she set about fixing it up on her second day.  Hoda warned us about the Latina "clean gene".  I think he was being very PC.  What I experienced was and entire "clean CHROMOSOME", not just one gene!!!  

When she was unpacking her things, she put her shoes in the cabinet underneath the bathroom sink.  I told her not to use it because it was dirty.  She said that she knew, that the whole bathroom was dirty.  She meant that there were dust and stains visible.  I meant that  under the bathroom sink was where insects liked to congregate so I have an exterminator spray pesticide every 2-3 months and I vacuum dead insects from there every 2-3 weeks.  The next day she CLEANED the entire bathroom including the cabinet under the bathroom sink where a witches' brew of poisonous chemicals, dead ants, dead spiders, and Palmetto bug parts has stewed in the SF heat for years!  I have capitalied the word "clean" to emphasize the thorough job she did. She spent 3 hours cleaning a space that can't be more than 20 square feet.  I think only the ceiling didn't experience her zeal.

The next day she cleaned my kitchen.  All the counters, the sink, the stove were cleaned spotless, cleared and organized to her satisfaction.  She even cleaned the entire refrigerator!  When I wasn't looking, she organized my bedroom.  She cleared up space on my dresser, organized my pens, money, radio, and other odds and ends, and put several things into my walk-in closet.  When I went to dress the next day, I got a serious shock.  I almost said out loud "Holy Moley! What the hell happened here?!?!?!?"  I have all the same color underwear, identical same color light socks, and identical same color dark socks.  I detest pairing up socks like I did as a child.  After laundry, I throw all my socks and underwear into the same drawer without any type of sorting, matching, or organizing.  That day, I opened my sock and underwear drawer to find EVERYTHING neatly folded. sorted, paired off, and organized!  Later she declared that my clothes were too unstylish and too unvaried.  She let it be known that after marriage I would have to upgrade my wardrobe.

So!  That is what I am in for after the big day!   The lesson to you guys is that you need to be prepared for a MAJOR change in how you live your home life.  There was none of the "her space / his space"  negociations that North Americans are used to.  To her, our home reflects the family and she wants that reflection to be VERY impressive.

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005

a total SLOB...
My wife of 5 years is the worst house-keeper I ever met in a lady.She is "worse" than me...
Everyone always tells me my home was "immaculate" when I was single and what happened???
Sheee...Maybe I made a terrible mistake...

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005

Thanks for taking the time to post your experiences... For me one of the qualities that I do admire in most of these ladies is that they tend to be more "about the family" as opposed to "her space / his space" point of view.   I know for me it does not matter what side of the dresser my socks are on...  I hope all goes well for you.

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005

“I must ask Patrick and Hoda to promptly delete any derogatory posts that are directed at me and my posts due to differences in political views.”

May I suggest that if you don’t want any “derogatory” replies because of your political views, then why don’t you simply keep your political views to yourself?

DUH! You aren’t too bright, are you? :-)

... in response to Huh?, posted by Ray on Aug 17, 2005

That's why I say he's being played for a sucker.

Maybe his Arab buddies can hook him up with a girl.

... in response to Huh?, posted by Ray on Aug 17, 2005

NT

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005

When my Calena fiance arrived she spent the first week day and night cleaning
and re-organizing my house. Even the window screens were removed and
cleaned. I have a cathedral 16 ft tall ceiling. She fabricated an extension tool to
clean the ceiling. The first day she moved 3-7ft tall wall units from the master
bedroom to another bedroom by herself! She weighs 94lbs. All my stuff is now
organized in different places. I no longer bother looking for anything I just ask
her and she gets it for me. Once I was repairing my car and a bolt fell deep
down inside the engine compartment. Within minutes she found it, fabricated a
tool out of a coat hanger and fished it out.

The Colombians are clean freaks and also very resourseful.

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005


When my wife first arrived, she told me that my cleaning was a nice start....dayyum (lol). The first fews days of me coming home to her, had me saying "Where did you find that? I've been looking for that!" When she returns, get ready for the dreaded, designated "Clean the house time". The wardrobe part was something I already had covered. But that still didn't stop her from getting it in "order"....

Keep it coming Bro...

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005

my wife did the same thing!!

I came home last week and all my underwear drawers have been reorganized. I was no different then you....everything went in one drawer mixed up and I would find what I needed later...NOT ANYMORE!!

Solid color boxers now have one drawer...stripes another...brown dress socks..another drawer..black socks..another and everything perfectly and neatly folded.

Now that my wife has been here for a month..she has also reoganized and cleaned every drawer in the kitchen ,dining room and bedroom.

Before my wife arrived...I kept the house pretty clean...

My wife has cleaned it to a level beyond comprehension.

It is so organized and clean here now...I think it would even put a "Stephord Wives" house to shame......

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005


The first day my wife stayed at my house she cleaned it from head to toe so she could sleep there.  She keeps the house spotless clean.

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005

Mrs Gator is EXACTLY the same way.  The only roach I have seen died of starvation before he made it half way across the kitchen floor.

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005

Man, please don't come back and say we are just a Green Card to Brazilian woman.  There must be a few more there similar to the woman you are tolking about.

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005

Man that's sounds like a great woman ! Congrads!

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005

I hope they remain in lurk mode for this series.""

Well as long as you keep your pie hole shut about how much you hate America then you just might get your wish.

Otherwise you will get spanked like before.

... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005

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... in response to Visit Report, Part 1, posted by Brazilophile on Aug 16, 2005

It has been my experience that most Latin women do not have this clean gene you refer to excluding their regard for their own personal cleanliness. I have been to many Latin women homes from high end to low end and have associated with many Latin women. South American urban areas as a hold are dirty and dilapidated. This is what their eyes see on a daily basis and their homes and yards are not much different then their deteriorating environment. Most Latin women have no hesitancy about throwing trash on to the streets I see this all the time. And for those that have maids to clean this does not mean they would be inclined to clean up themselves. Most maids are rarely properly taught how to do their job because even their employers don’t know much beyond the basic. Few seem to understand the reasons why things should be done a particular way. The maids follow basic instructions but they rarely understand the why of what they do. I could not believe some of the filthy homes I have been to that had live in maids.
Consider yourself fortunate to have found someone who appreciates cleanliness and organization it is not the norm.
Engage the Exotic – Colombian Women
http://International-Introductions.com

... in response to Cleanliness, posted by Jamie on Aug 16, 2005

You sound more and more like you hate what you do and where you live.

You are completely wrong about your evaluation of Latin women.

Why not go back to flipping burgers in the U.S?

Oh that's right...you hate Mexicans too.

... in response to Re: Cleanliness, posted by Heat on Aug 17, 2005

I understand how you feel Heat, you have been away for awhile and have bottled up a lot of vile you need to spew. You’re a weak man with no control.

I did a search on the word "hate" and you have more post than anyone else using this word. You are number one Heat, take a look at the archives. You have accused and attacked many if not most of the active posters on this board. It is part of your predictable cycle of insult distribution. The archives are full of your insults. Below are just a few of the quotes from Heat to guys who for the most just stated their opinion. Understand many of his worst stuff has been deleted. In fact Heat was once deleted why would a guy with the below contributions be allowed to return?

"So you don't even have a women huh loser"

"Jealous and envy are the only friends you have. So sad and too bad for you loser."

"Dream on internet loser"

"So sad you are a internet loser. I have the real deal in Cali. You're just a loser."

Calling people a loser is a Heat’s favorite. If you look up just about any derogatory term in the archives you will see Heat’s name will lead the list.

"I hate jesus and you drove me to it."

No comment necessary.

"O a fat boy like you.... you have failed in life."

"...fat lying scum"

Heat loves insulting people by the way they look or not look.

"Just be happy with your short haired fat bitch"

Plus their women.

"I hate jesus"

We heard you Heat.

"...is just a dick who was looking to fight"

"You have no life."

"I suggest that you really are mental..."

To Hoda: "Dude you have many people here who can't stand your self rightious preaching. Get it?
Got stupid?"

Great response from Hoda: "You've already cornered the market on STUPID!!! You're just part of the crew here, that is only going down south for Ho-Strolling. Because, me & others have turned on the lights on you & your fellow cockroaches (Ho-Strollers) you're forced to scramble for the cracks & crevices...lol!"

"...wait to she sees how cheap you canuks are!"

Doesn’t seem to like Canadians either.

"Heat has more money than God"

Modesty from Heat.

Guess who leads the pack using the word "racist" That's right Heat is number one again.

"Is he is a racist and is full of hate and because we have disagreed with him and his views. Now has an agenda. Really sad that a dude has to hate people who disagree with him"

"he is a racist and is full of hate"

"The answer is he is a racist."

"Admit it! At least admit your a racist."

"...how did you become such a racist bigot?"

"And perhaps people will learn to save the racism charges for the people who truly are racist. Or risk losing the impact of the charge."

Wow how ironic that you said this.

"So stop making judgments about people you don't know."

Another Wow, coming from a guy who does nothing but.

It is interesting how many people have you pegged Heat:

"You'll see that Heat has had a specific pattern of not being able to let past threads go, and will wait for his moment to jump on someone that made a point that he didn't agree with that he wasn't able to address with reason."

"...Heat, and the rest have set a new standard for "Haters"."

"Heat.... I personally have a hard time taking anyone serious who calls a regular poster here a loser for no other reason than telling us he's engaged. You call someone a loser right off the bat and you can expect a response in kind but I would say that xxxx has shown his "class" by not responding at all."

"Heat has some serious issues, one of them is an "evil & empty" heart.... No wonder he has to buy love by the hour!"

"Heat.... I am a bigot because I do not agree with your views?"

"After hearing heat say that black is white and night is day, I felt that someone needed to write a dissenting opinion. Let's get down to brass tacks: Inasmuch as I disagree with his accusations and find his ad hominem attacks offensive, I am happy to meet his speech with more speech and, if necessary, continue this discussion until the truth shines."

Of course this guy found out you can’t have a reasoned discussion with Heat.

"...heat's most progressive idea is to have more impact on Earth's biological, geological, and chemical systems during our lifetime and our children's than all preceding human generations had together. If that sounds progressive to you, you must be facing the wrong way. What he does in private is none of my business. But when heat tries to make mountains out of molehills, I object.... In the end, I trust heat about as far as I can throw him."

Heat you have a sordid history of who you really are.

... in response to For Heat & those interested in knowi..., posted by Jamie on Aug 17, 2005

lol...

Well I have been away.  Away with my new Colombiana in Key West enjoying her and having a ball.  And I've been insulted by.......Oh my God an AGENCY OWNER!

What status and prestige you have.  How does a balding man in his late forties with no future and no money spend his pesos?  Researching me on the Internet!  Wow and I thought you had your "reward".  

Well I guess you better keep searching for more of my posts.  Because life in BQ is a slum fest and you can't speak two words of Spanish so it's fight night at PL.

Ho hum...well LOSER (That's 320 times for the record) I've got to go have fun with my girl.

... in response to Heat  3:16, posted by Heat on Aug 17, 2005

How about Heat 666?

... in response to Re: Heat  3:16, posted by Ken2 on Aug 19, 2005


LOL!

... in response to Heat  3:16, posted by Heat on Aug 17, 2005

"lol..."

Only you can laugh when the laugh is on you.

"And I've been insulted by.......Oh my God an AGENCY OWNER!"

Very interesting that you feel insulted by reading your on insults.

"I thought you had your "reward"."

Memorized my website have you.

"...so it's fight night at PL."

That’s a joke I’ve yet to see you put a good fight up with anyone. More like another massacre of Heat.

"Ho hum...well LOSER (That's 320 times for the record)"

If you include your posting as the "Raptor" its much more. I guess once a snake always a snake.

"I've got to go have fun with my girl."

Well, I had my fun with you hate clown.

... in response to The Serpent Speaks, posted by Jamie on Aug 17, 2005

Well...Again I have the nice kids, hot Colombiana, new car, million dollar home, vacations  ect....

You have the shitty apartment and BQ and you get to try everyday to rip off the gringos here.

Tell me again who's winning?

... in response to Agency owners whining......, posted by Heat on Aug 18, 2005

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... in response to Its always "well… again" with ..., posted by Jamie on Aug 18, 2005

You and your buddy need to up the meds.

... in response to Cleanliness, posted by Jamie on Aug 16, 2005

When the Cubanos came to Miami in mass almost 30 years ago they moved into the worst neighborhoods as thats all they could afford.  Within years these neighborhoods took on a new image.  They cleaned things up, placed nice white picket fences arouund their homes and quite simply beautified the worst areas of Miami.  Thats been our experience in S. Florida.  They also proved to be hard workers and good employees

... in response to Re: Cleanliness, posted by BogotaJim on Aug 16, 2005

Because they appreciate the US, for all its faults, its way better than Castro ruined Cuba