Title: Shoe Bomber and Judge Post by: maggiemtnman on July 19, 2005, 04:00:00 AM Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe
and tried to light it? Did you know his trial is over? Everyone should hear what the judge had to say. Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to say. His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the record, Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below: January 30, 2003, United States vs. Reid. Judge Young: On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United StatesAttorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive with the other. Let me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is all too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here in this court, we deal with individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals. As human beings, we reach out for justice. You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether it is the officers of government who do it or your attorney who does it, or if you think you are a soldier. You are not----- you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not meet with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice. So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But you are not that big. You're no warrior. I've know warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and where the TV crews were, and he said: "You're no big deal." You are no big deal. What your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was it that led you here to this courtroom today? I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing. And I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire record, it comes as close to understanding as I know. It seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose. Here, in this society, the very wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is administered fairly, individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other judges. We Americans are all about freedom. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will bare any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going to long remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all acrossAmerica, the American people will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in fact being done. The very President of the United States through his officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice. See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of theUnited States of America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag stands for freedom. And it always will. Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.
God blessAmerica. Title: Light Sentence? Post by: Ray on July 19, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Shoe Bomber and Judge, posted by maggiemtnman on Jul 19, 2005
That happened about 2-1/2 years ago and is a true story. I think his sentence should have included stuffing his shoe bomb up his ass and lighting it. Then he could serve the rest of his sentence buttless. I guess he could use his toilet hand to pick his nose or something... :-) Title: Re: Light Sentence? Post by: CelticUrge on July 19, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Light Sentence?, posted by Ray on Jul 19, 2005
I disagree. Don't shove the shoe up his butt and light the bomb. Leave it virgin for his new cellmate and boyfriend to enjoy. Perhaps the cellmate will even share this new virgin with his friends. Title: Go Bubba! LOL n/t Post by: Ray on July 19, 2005, 04:00:00 AM Title: Re: Shoe Bomber and Judge Post by: OkieMan on July 19, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Shoe Bomber and Judge, posted by maggiemtnman on Jul 19, 2005
I agree, we need more judges like that-- to some degree. If you asked me, they should have put a small bomb in one or both of Reid's shoes, put him in an empty open field, and detonate the thing! Then he could rest in pieces, with Alluh! What a pig! BTW, his real name surely couldn't be Richard Reid. It is probably Mohammed, or Abdul something or other. OkieMan Title: Re: Re: Shoe Bomber and Judge Post by: Jake on July 19, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Shoe Bomber and Judge, posted by OkieMan on Jul 19, 2005
It was Richard Reid , I beleive he was converted Muslim . I think his mother lives in France Title: Re: Re: Re: Shoe Bomber and Judge Post by: OkieMan on July 19, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Shoe Bomber and Judge, posted by Jake on Jul 19, 2005
Well, whatever his real name is, he certainly looks like some Mid-East type. Either way, they still ought to execute the creep! OkieMan Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shoe Bomber and Judge Post by: Brazilophile on July 20, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Shoe Bomber and Judge, posted by OkieMan on Jul 19, 2005
Richard Reid is half Black / half White. His father is from Trinidad, West Indies. Reid was born in Trinidad and the family emigrated to the UK when he was a child. |