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Title: On Hiatus Post by: Traveller on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM I'm leaving Colombia for awhile. Going to go home and watch some NFL and BBQ Tri-Tip and catch a few High School Football games. Catch up with the family and friends, that kind of stuff. Vacation from Colombia.
I'm not writing on the board in that time. Things have just degenerated into, basically, nothing. People spouting political stuff about nothing. If you have to ask where I stand on a lot of this stuff, you ain't read the board over the last 6 years, but I don't need to write about it AGAIN. You guys know. Brazilphile, I could pester him about my view, but everyone already knows what that is and there isn't any point in beating to death a dog that has already been buried. It would just sprial down from there and nothing gets accomplished except that you have these incredibly long threads that go nowhere except to have an argument through posts. Much better to have an argument face to face. Just leave it at "I'm right and your wrong" and call it a day, huh. All this detracts from the issue of meeting women in Colombia or simply info about Colombia. The Whole TLC argument. Big freaking deal guys! You guys made your point, move on. I've never used TLC, I've never attended an event, I've never hung out in the lobby during an event, I've never paid them a dime for anything. I have seen the photo of Adriana Arboleda being portrayed as being in their "stable" and I agree with Heat on that subject about posting photos of people that there is no way are in that service or will ever show up for a TLC event, but the point has been painfully made. Over and over and over and over again. Maybe Bruce deserves this 'raking over the coals" but I don't know the guy, maybe he doesn't. There is a point where it is no longer information but it becomes simply bashing. (Ok, Felinessa deserved it and I got on the bandwagon, but she was asking for it.) Hell, at this point I'm want to see what a TLC event is like to see if it the rip off some people say it is. Yes, I agree, it is a bit steep for what you get but I have been around awhile on the Cali scene, but if you got the money to throw around, whatever. Give the varying perspectives on this view and let the people who read the board make up their own minds, because if you don't after awhile people just tune it out as an argument that they really don't care about. I posted some stuff about something you could actually do besides hang out at Chipichape all day complete with photos and everything and I didn't get one post about anymore info about it. Somthing that was tremendously fun no matter where you are, but for a really cheap price. But, apparently no one cares about the fun side of Cali any longer. It's all about the arguments nowadays. I had a bunch of stuff laid out for this board about beautiful fincas you could rent ridicously cheap, adventure tour stuff including kayaking, some events coming up, concerts, going away parties, birthday parties, etc. Stuff you could take a date to. Like the Flamenco dancing show tonight, or my Birthday/"C-YA!" party blow out, or Martyn's Bar retiring the old location MEGA BLOW OUT PARTY. I also have info on a new way to meet Calenas and meet them in a great neutral location where you could get something to eat and relax and have that first date, and look at books of new girls to the "Agency" scene, but no one seems to care. So, go ahead and argue all you like but understand that I don't want to read about it ALL the time and I'm sure 95% of the members don't either. There's a point where you just have to let this crap go. Once it starts looking like nothing is going to get resolved, let it go. If you notice, a lot of guys stop posting when all this starts getting out of hand. Their posts will get swallowed up by these flame wars and the useful information or insightful questions get lost. I know, I know, I'm whining about it, but I do like to write. I do like to give first hand info on actually living in Cali. I like to answer questions. I try and put some effort in my posts and, yes, when no one responds, I think what's the point? Everyone is entitled to their rants and opinions, but I'm tired of it. I'll post when I get back to Colombia. Later Gators, K Title: Re: On Hiatus Post by: zack on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to On Hiatus, posted by Traveller on Jul 8, 2005
I ditto your comments. I was going to do a similar post about the TLC argument but I'm glad you beat me to it because you summarized it better than I would have. I couldn't agree more. Have fun on your trip. Zack Title: Re: On Hiatus Post by: Pete E on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to On Hiatus, posted by Traveller on Jul 8, 2005
I agree the flavor of the board has been a little negative for awhile.Hopefully we can get back to helping guys and keep the negative stuff short. YOU WILL BE BACK TO CALI!So enjoy your vacation in the states.What I am doing now.I will do a seperate post. Pete Title: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: cabocancun on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to On Hiatus, posted by Traveller on Jul 8, 2005
Guys,I would appreciate your opinions: When is it time to give up the search? My stats: I figure I will give it six more months and two more trips. What do you guys think? Title: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: Looking4Wife on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to When is it time to give up the search?, posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
If "fear" and "second guessing" are your problems, then its not about giving up the search, its about overcoming these obstacles before CONTINUING the search. The self-imposed obstacles you have stated... would stop you from having a successful relationship with the PERFECT woman in your OWN CITY, let alone Latin America. It sounds like you need to change your limiting thoughts BEFORE you change your venue. You are conversational in Spanish. Many guys here, including me, WISH they were conversational in Spanish. I'm workin' on it... I agree with what you said below, that 2 weeks is not long enough for a trip (especially in your case). I went on my initial trip for 30 days, which gave me a chance to spend some serious time getting to know a handful of girls that I sorted out from the "pack". Now I can go BACK for 1 or 2 weeks at a time, to get to know specific girls even better. Title: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: Fuzzyone on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to When is it time to give up the search?, posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
Listen to what you said you spent 1 year with your ex-girl. So really you have only been searching for about 6 months, thats not long at all. If you really thing about it you saved more money then alot of us who brought our girl up here and ended up going thru hell. One thing you need to stop doing is second guessing everything. If you cannot do that then stay in the U.S. and let those A.W. drive you nuts. I met a woman in Barranquilla who I think is the most beautiful woman in the Title: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: Jake on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: When is it time to give up the searc..., posted by Fuzzyone on Jul 8, 2005
so very true ...if you give up you have lost and you will be alone or dealing with AW . I did that once when this lady from peru and I ended . I met what I thought was a nice AW and after 3 years it was the same old story . So back south I went ..... It is never easy , but you have to keep going . I started to look at then like vacations just to see some of my buddies that I have met . I can only imagine the number of ladies in Colombia that live in the country where we can't travel . I did meet one lady from a small town visiting Cali , I introduced my freind to her and they have been married now for 5 years . Title: Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: Fuzzyone on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: When is it time to give up the s..., posted by Jake on Jul 8, 2005
Kinda funny if you think about it. I was married to a girl from Peru. When I finally had enough and showed her the door I thought that was it I was about to give up when I started just messing with my computor. I started reading alot of guys stories here especially from the guys who failed the first time and went to try again. I think what helped me alot of looking at the pics some of the marriage agencies posted of some real old men picking up on the young Colombians. I figured hey if this old dude can do it why can't I try again. I started with a bazil dating site.. I wrote a couple of woman but I noticed that with most guys here they really did not pan out for them. I noticed alot of first timers were starting to strike out in Cali, not that it was a bad place but I think the woman there started to get real smart. So I tried Amigos.com and met a woman from Barranquilla. The town might Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: OkieMan on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give up t..., posted by Fuzzyone on Jul 9, 2005
Fuzzyone, So, how is it going with the girl in BAQ? How long have you known her? How old is she, etc? Does she have kids? OkieMan Title: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: OkieMan on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to When is it time to give up the search?, posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
Cabocancun, I think I have already asked you this, but you can tell me if I did or not. When you talk about second guessing, what exactly are you referring to? To you mean that you are not sure how the latina(s) feel about you, or you are not sure how you feel about them? Secondly, overall, why do you think you have not met Ms. Right yet? I would like to hear your opinion, because of certain things that have happened to me. We all must find our own path, but it sure helps to compare notes. Thanks. OkieMan Title: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: Jake on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to When is it time to give up the search?, posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
I have been in your shoes ........... I found out the odds are against you by thinking you are going to run into your future wife in a tour , week long trip ect ...... I also have no regrets about all my trips , some business so it as all been a adventure . i have over 40 trips to SA , but this includes business also ........ so I regrouped a few years ago , and went a completely different route .......... all that money and still nothing ........ I started writing letters , found it was a lot cheaper , found ladies more serious , and met a much better select group of ladies . When I found 3-5 ladies that I liked I headed south ..... I really thought about the marketing aspect differently and didn't market myself like a car ..... when I first started my response rate was not very good .... maybe 10-20 percent ... after a few months and a little research i got it to 50-60 percent ... I even have helped 2 other guys and after only a few months they were so excited to start seeing all these letters in the mail ....... SO many guys are just to lazy .... one big hint ... form letters copyed over and over with out putting the girls name on the page does not work ...... Title: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: OkieMan on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: When is it time to give up the searc..., posted by Jake on Jul 8, 2005
Jake, Are you referring snail mail? I would have thought that emails were better? They sure are faster. At any rate, I would be interested in hearing more about your ideas. I am not ready to contact any ladies right now. My heart is just not into now. But, somewhere in the near future, I will try again. OkieMan Title: Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: Jake on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: When is it time to give up the s..., posted by OkieMan on Jul 8, 2005
The first couple letters should be snail mail , it is much more personnal , and you should write the letter in there language . no more secrets ... Title: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: cabocancun on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: When is it time to give up the searc..., posted by Jake on Jul 8, 2005
Jake, I agree, I definately am going to start approaching non- agency ladies. BUENA SUERTE CON TU NOVIA Title: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: Looking4Wife on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to When is it time to give up the search?, posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
Since I don't know you personally, I can only give a general response that would fit anyone asking the question... personally, I find I am more successful when I can FOCUS, and I want to focus my efforts to be as efficient as possible in my search... 1. Are you crystal clear on what you want from a woman? Such as a written list of the attributes that are... 1A. Must Haves (for me: devout Christian, flat stomach) 2. Are you "packaging your product" (i.e. yourself) to attract the kind of woman that you want? i.e. I want a woman with a flat stomach, so I go to the gym three times a week (in attempt :-) to get my stomach flatter 3. Since there are so many beautiful women in EACH of the cities you mentioned, why not just focus on one city? 3A. If you speak fluent spanish, and have the time to meet women in public, the women are waiting... 3B. If you use agencies, you could use multiple agencies in the same city... 4. If agency assistance/customer service is important to you why not focus on one agency? I largely chose my city based on the agency I wanted to work with. As I have said before, if the agency had been in New York, California, Dominican Republic, or Medellin, I likely would have gone to one of those cities rather than BAQ. Just some considerations that I have made on my search. Single life is simply unacceptable to me, and I fully believe that being focused will help me find my soulmate as efficiently as possible... Buena Suerte! Title: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: cabocancun on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: When is it time to give up the searc..., posted by Looking4Wife on Jul 8, 2005
Must haves: Compatible,beautiful,25 year old triguena with no kids who likes to dance. I am flexible with the other stuff. I have stepped my game up as much as possible: I would say I have noticed at least two weaknesses in my approach: 2.My two week visits are not long enough. Title: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: Cali James on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: When is it time to give up the s..., posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
I think an agency is probably your best bet especially when you're on a limited time budget. Meeting outside the agency is great if you've had the time to develop a network of friends in the city you travel to but if you haven't done this, then I think it's a total crap shoot. For example, you follow the hot babe at the mall, talk to her, invite her out a few times and then you discover she has absolutely no interest in leaving her country. There went your two week vacation. With the agency, the presumption is that the woman has at least considered this. Your mall babe most likely has not. Also, think back to your dating habits in the States. Typically guys date a lot of women before they find the woman they want to marry. Why should it be any different in Colombia. Guys shouldn't feel internal pressure to marry after a couple of weeks. I personally think it's a good idea to date a lot of women and eliminating women quickly if they are not totally in to you or show signs that they may lack charactor for example. Never waste time with maybe's, move on and meet new women. When the right woman comes along you'll know it, don't second guess yourself on maybe's, wait for the real thing. Also, it's easy to over-analyze the situation, we engineers like to do that, go to Colombia and have fun first and foremost, the rest will follow if it's meant to. Good luck... Title: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: CelticUrge on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to When is it time to give up the search?, posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
Cabo: I know virtually nothing about you as a person. You have been to the three beach cities and not found what you are looking for. For me, Bogota is my number one choice, for a variety of reasons. If you can go for several weeks at a time it greatly improves your chances of success. There are just many, many more people in Bogota, about 9M as I recall and about 7 universities, 2 large agencies that noone here slams and many things to do and see. If I were in your shoes, I would not give up but would consider a change of venue. After reading this board for a while I will return to Bogota and not go to Cali or Medellin. Although, if I were already in Bogota, I may take a few days to visit the other cities just to learn and determine if my initial choice was best for me. Take an exercise to assist your search. Sit down with a pad and pen and start writing down every woman you have shown an interest in, her name, what happened, why it ended or never started, what worked, what did not work. Abbreviate, keep it simple. Usually when you make any attempt to quantify anyones relationships a pattern emerges. Find it, analyze it and fix it. When I did this about 10 years ago it became obvious to me that I really did not want a long term relationship. That has since completely turned around and I now even avoid short term sure things, or almost always!!!!! Are you afraid to "pull the trigger" or have you just not met a woman that floats your boat? Buena suerte. Title: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: cabocancun on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: When is it time to give up the searc..., posted by CelticUrge on Jul 8, 2005
Good advice. I am going to meet with a marriage and family counselor in California on Monday for "a check up from the neck up". The counselor happens to be a Latina,so I interested in hearing her opinion on my current mental state. Title: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: Cali James on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to When is it time to give up the search?, posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
I'm not sure there is an exact time table for this. I had made about 8 trips to Cali over 3 years sometimes staying months at a time before I met the person who would later become my wife. I had dated lots of women, had had 3 prior novias and there were a couple of times I felt discouraged also but I kept going back. I kept going back because Colombia is a great place to visit regardless of whether I found a wife. Anyway, I wouldn't give up! Title: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: papi on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to When is it time to give up the search?, posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
I understand your frustration and I am very close myself to calling it quits. My first novia from Cali lasted 2 years and lived with me in the US but I did not want to marry her. My many travels south since then have not been productive. I came close a few times and probably let a couple good ones slip through the cracks but live an learn. I am considering another try or two – maybe BQ again. I am also looking at maybe trying the East – Ukraine. Never been there and I do find the look very attractive. Maybe consider another country or city you have not been too in Colombia. I have a website in Panama -if any of those girls float your boat maybe I can help you out on the house. shoot me an email if interested. my url is www.tropic-romance.com Title: Ukraine & time to give up the search? Post by: CelticUrge on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: When is it time to give up the searc..., posted by papi on Jul 8, 2005
One of my neighbors is from that part of the world and has family there. He is 50'ish, decent looking, loosing some hair, highly educated and intelligent, etc. Went back several years ago found woman who adores him, good looking, brought her back, married and living happily ever after. She is probably 40. Teenage daughter is stunning. Anyway, he told me that yes there are many scams and you can easily get caught in Russia, baltic states, and Ukraine is one of the worst for scams. In his opinion, Romania is the hot spot for many reasons, most of which I don't recall but will ask again if you guys are interested. The country has the basic infrastructure that many people are educated, few men looking for connection in the country, and the area is headed downhill in the long run. For me, I have no desire to even consider it. I have invested in Colombia, feel comfortable and confident in my decision and will continue my present course. Title: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: fathertime on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: When is it time to give up the searc..., posted by papi on Jul 8, 2005
Howdy Papi, If you have a curiosity for the Ukraine than I would suggest you take a look or you may always feel like you missed out on something. I have taken one trip to Colombia and than one trip to Ukraine. Now I feel like I have seen both sides and my informed preferance is now...drumroll.. Colombia hands down!! There is beauty in both places but there are less scammers by far in Colombia. You may need to see that for yourself. The irresistable beauty of the Ukrainians is mostly just on the websites. Going to the socials you will see a lot less of the beautiful people and many of the ones you do see will attempt a low level scam on you to separate you from a few of your hard earned dollars. Overall it was a great experience on both sides of the world and although I broke hearts in both places it seems that was how it had to be. Fathertime Title: Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: papi on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: When is it time to give up the s..., posted by fathertime on Jul 8, 2005
great post - and good advice. So the beauties are mostly just in the pics. And the others are generally scammers. i knew scamming is a big problem over there. i am taking another shot at BAQ - leave next week. I have some interest with someone in Panama but have not spent much time with her and she has a kid Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: fathertime on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give up t..., posted by papi on Jul 8, 2005
PAPI The socials had some very good looking girls present especially compared the typical U.S. scene for a mid 30's fella but the real stunners are generally unattainable. Many, many guys were scammed on my trip to Ukraine. These were guys who had a lot going for them either in the looks or business success department but they were scammed and did not even realize it until the plane ride back to the states. Depending on your criteria, you may find yourself satisfied with what you see. I found what I would consider an excellent girl but that was very, very rare and I chose not to follow through. Girls tried to run scams with me as well but my guard was up and they were generally thwarted. I look forward to a trip to Cali in the fall. Now that I have seen Ukraine my mind will be at ease in Colombia knowing that this is as good as it gets! Fathertime Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: papi on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give ..., posted by fathertime on Jul 9, 2005
what are the typical scams? were any guys successful finding someone? who did you go with - agency? what are the % of scammers? As I mentioned, I am off to BAQ this week but am curious with over there Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: fathertime on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: When is it time to g..., posted by papi on Jul 9, 2005
Papi I won't be able to remember all the scams although if you look through the East European archives I spoke of them all back in april. The one scam that stands out most is the interpreter scam in which the very attractive girl unexpectly brings here "Interpreter" because she suddenly can't speak good enough english despite the fact that she is advertised as being reasonably conversational. Of course the interpreter is not free so at 10 dollars an hour for a 3 hour date the "Attracive girl" and interpreter just made 30 bones which I imagine is split after the poor clueless sucker is dispatched. I went with the group Anastasia. The tour itself was well organized and the staff was polite. The email system they have is complete BS and many guys spent 1000's of dollars corresponding with what they thought were "interested babes" but in reality were either fat Ukrainian men or more likely the intrepreters employed by Anastasia. Once the tour members started comparing notes with each other many were pissed but it was really too late to do much about all this. Despite all this there were matches made on the tour. Not the October-Febuary matches they will make you think can occur. Several men popped the question on the tour and gave rings to there babes. The babes that were proposed to were not the goddesses you see on the site but in my opinion several notches beneath that in terms of physcial appearance. Still attractive but not beauty queen material by any strech. Just know all this before you spend your 5k grand which is about what it will take door to door. Have fun at Baq and know that Colombia is where it is at! See ya Fathertime Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: papi on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: When is it time ..., posted by fathertime on Jul 9, 2005
good advice. sounds like a place full of pitfalls. Off to BQ in a few days - hope to meet a lot of new hotties Title: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: cabocancun on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: When is it time to give up the searc..., posted by papi on Jul 8, 2005
Thanks for the offer Papi. I am going to sink or swim with Barranquilla. I do not have the energy to look elsewhere. There are easily 10,000 women in Barranquilla that meet my basic criteria ( beautiful 25 year old triguena with no kids who likes to dance). When I am in Colombia,I always feel that success is just around the corner. Sometimes,this search is just a matter of inches. Inorder, for this thing to work for me,I need to feel the way that Utopiacowboy feels about his wife. I have seen many women in Colombia that have knocked me out with their beauty. On three seperate occasions,I have received the Colombian woman stare down which means "come over here and give it your best shot" from a Colombian woman who I thought was a knock out. One lady worked at the Decameron,one lady worked at a hotel in Barranquilla and the other lady was in the airport in Cartagena on her way to Europe. On each occasion,I hesitated for various reasons and the opportunity was lost. Sometimes,this process feels like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Anyone else have that feeling sometimes? Title: Re: Re: Re: When is it time to give up the search? Post by: CelticUrge on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: When is it time to give up the s..., posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
When you encounter one like you describe "pull the trigger" and give her your best shot. Don't hesitate. They won't drag you through the flames for approaching like an AW would do to you. Go for it. Title: I don't know... Post by: Frank O on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: When is it time to give up the s..., posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
[This message has been edited by Frank O] but many men go out looking for a spark to set things off. I go out there with a flamethrower. Unfortunately last time it got out of control & I got 3rd degree burns. But life goes on. What's the alternative marry an American who doesn't share the same values & simply wants to date & "see if things work out"? I don't know but I'm NOT afraid of trying OR of failure. I'm getting started on Latin America but probably won't get going really till the end of the year or early next year. Still a little hurt. I'll be traveling to Bogota but not expectint anything more of a vacation really. Tried Ukraine but like I said I got burned. Beautiful girls but hate to say beyond the looks the Latina's take em EASY! Just keep trying & don't feel bad man. Attitude I would say is 90% of it man.If your looking for a needle in the haystack take out the flamethrower & BURN the haystack, then proceed to SWEEP OUT THE ASHES, you'll find the needle right there. Title: Time for a group hug... Post by: Looking4Wife on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to On Hiatus, posted by Traveller on Jul 8, 2005
Well said (for the most part) Traveller and Fuzzyone (below) about moving on from all the in-fighting and lets talk more positively about finding and keeping happy Latina wives... As an "experienced newbie", (2 trips totalling 5 weeks in BAQ between April and May, met 37 women, dated 10, seriously dated 2, currently in contact with 4), I am interested in learning as much as I can about... finding a Latina wife. As a pursuer and student of Latina love, I am interested in learning about the good, the bad, and the ugly. But watching grown men bicker like children day, after day, after day, gets old... especially when most of the parties involved have so much practical, helpful information to offer... In the words of that great social engineer, Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?" We won't always agree with each other, but incessant name calling... I mean seriously... Can we all just take a moment of silence for a "virtual group hug" and sing the Barney song or something? (you know the words... "I love you, you love me, we're a happy family..." :-) Then maybe we can get back to talking about finding and keeping the women of our Latina dreams... :-) Title: Re: On Hiatus Post by: thundernco on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to On Hiatus, posted by Traveller on Jul 8, 2005
Give me a ring, I think we'll be around. -TNC Title: selfish Post by: Malandro on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to On Hiatus, posted by Traveller on Jul 8, 2005
how can you just think about your own wants and interests when there is an American girl missing in Aruba? Title: Re: Post by: caslug on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to On Hiatus, posted by Traveller on Jul 8, 2005
Hey Traveller.. I like knowing the day-to-day stuff about cali that you post. I was looking for any update you have on the paragliding, did you go? how was it, i assuming if you went it's safe because you're alive to post today. LOL! I admit, i wasn't ready PL in detail because it's all about bashing Bruce for TLC or Bashing AMBRAZIL for being "un-american". Which i find funny, because if there's ONE basic right that americans cherish is our right to bitch, complain, and disagree WITH ANYTHING. HECK It's OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO COMPLAIN about ANY PRESIDENT or POLITICIAN. DOESNT ALL MILITARY RECRUITS have to swear to DEFEND/UPHOLD the CONSTIUTION of the UNITED STATES? SO To call someone "UNamerican" when they TAKE advantage of that right, is.. "UNamerican". LOL! Title: Re: Re: Post by: doombug on July 09, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: , posted by caslug on Jul 8, 2005
"SO To call someone 'UNamerican' when they TAKE advantage of that right, is.. 'UNamerican'. LOL!" Not really. If I were an authority figure with arresting powers who threw such dissenters behind bars, then THAT would be "un-American." On the other hand, if such dissenters open an anti-American thread soon after an ally is attacked, and the common man suggests that he leave the country if things are so intolerable, this is an example of what you characterize as "bitching, complaining, disagreeing." "LOL!" Title: Re: On Hiatus Post by: WS244 on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to On Hiatus, posted by Traveller on Jul 8, 2005
There are so many posters who show little or no personal information on this board, others protraying someone they are not, and women playing off as men, bringing up politics is one way to try and draw out a response to see where some of these people are coming from. When some of these posters go to South America 20 times looking for a wife and can not find one, there are other issues as to why one keeps attempting to fit a round peg in a square hole. Title: Re: Re: On Hiatus Post by: cabocancun on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: On Hiatus, posted by WS244 on Jul 8, 2005
Guys,I would appreciate your opinions: When is it time to give up the search? My stats: I figure I will give it six more months and two more trips. What do you guys think? Title: Re: Re: Re: On Hiatus Post by: Jake on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: On Hiatus, posted by cabocancun on Jul 8, 2005
I have been in your shoes ........... I found out the odds are against you by thinking you are going to run into your future wife in a tour , week long trip ect ...... I also have no regrets about all my trips , some business so it as all been a adventure . i have over 40 trips to SA , but this includes business also ........ so I regrouped a few years ago , and went a completely different route .......... all that money and still nothing ........ I started writing letters , found it was a lot cheaper , found ladies more serious , and met a much better select group of ladies . When I found 3-5 ladies that I liked I headed south ..... I really thought about the marketing aspect differently and didn't market myself like a car ..... when I first started my response rate was not very good .... maybe 10-20 percent ... after a few months and a little research i got it to 50-60 percent ... I even have helped 2 other guys and after only a few months they were so excited to start seeing all these letters in the mail ....... SO many guys are just to lazy .... one big hint ... form letters copyed over and over with out putting the girls name on the page does not work ...... Title: Hear Hear! Post by: surfscum on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to On Hiatus, posted by Traveller on Jul 8, 2005
Traveller, I couldn't agree more with what you say. I used to point people to this site, but it has degenerated lately and I can't really recommend the site, just a couple of people like Ray or UtopiaCowboy. Guys, please let it go. In your striving to "win" your argument, you create (I'll be nice and say "the appearance") of a hostile environment. Who would want to join this board? We want more guys to post on here, can we agree on that? Title: A light at the end of the tunnel!!! Post by: Fuzzyone on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to On Hiatus, posted by Traveller on Jul 8, 2005
Wow good post... I have been reading post on other forums including immaration forums where the men don't want to come here because its became a waste of time. Why? if there is no information to help anyone why would they want to come here? Beating on TLC day in or day out beating on Jamie or any other agancy owner over and over again does not help. It comes to a point that all that gets posted here is this agency sucks that one sucks ect..... I think most of us have survied this long if the can't spend the time reading the old post to hell with them... they will ask the first Colombian to marry then within a week no matter what we do.... Title: Re: A light at the end of the tunnel!!! Post by: papi on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to A light at the end of the tunnel!!!, posted by Fuzzyone on Jul 8, 2005
But it would be great if someone could find that agency gem and tell us about it Title: Re: Re: A light at the end of the tunnel!!! Post by: Jake on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: A light at the end of the tunnel!!!, posted by papi on Jul 8, 2005
steveo .. that should be you mission ... maybe you were put on this planet just to create a perfect jem ..... with everything you have learned in past Years (decade) you could do it ........ by the way ..oh next time Title: Re: Re: Re: A light at the end of the tunnel!!! Post by: papi on July 08, 2005, 04:00:00 AM ... in response to Re: Re: A light at the end of the tunnel..., posted by Jake on Jul 8, 2005
Jakester, the price is right. The place is safe but i dont have enough hotties for the guys...and dont want to spend more money to try and get some on the come bet |