Why is it?

[soltero]

That when anyone posts anything contrary to Latinas being the salt of the earth, traditional, and faithful potential wives, they get slaughtered? More times than not, anyone who posts anything personal here that does not support pie in the sky with a Latina, they are made to feel inferior and not up to the challenge of obtaining and keeping a Latina wife? Negative experiences are just as important as positive ones in helping the true seeker in finding what they are looking for, but anyone trying to give that side of it gets run out on a rail. Whether the guy was for real or just a troll, we may never know, because if I was him, I wouldn't post anything else about it after the reception he received and it isn't just him...look thru the archives...Man, it makes me think that you guys are delusional and anything that doesn't support what you are dreaming of having one day is verboten. Tell me it isn't so...

[Locii]

... in response to Why is it?, posted by soltero on Nov 8, 2004

I don't know Rj and feel bad that he has had a bad experience, but the idea that he comes and posts half-info to a bunch of strangers...well what exactly did he expect?  A pat on the back for being taken for a ride?  There is no way to verify anything that he said, other than with more information; if he wanted to provide that, he would have.  So somebody, somewhere, got conned by a Colombian.  I do not consider this a newsflash.  They excel at this (Colombian's in general, not the females).  I kindof like them because of it, but then I'm an self-confessed idiot.

I am trying to be lighthearted...I am not being hateful when I suggest "the Con job" is a Colombian national pasttime, its something I have experienced firsthand numerous times, having dated 3 Colombian ex-pats.  In fact, I was out during Fantasy Fest with one of them, and we met a couple of Jr. macho mafioso types in a gay bar (La Te Da in Key West) after the parade.  They were scamming and coming on to the Colombians I was with, and it was amusing to watch these guys come on so strong with their BS.  They got nowhere with my company, but the highlight of my night was when they were (drunk I suppose) and cluelessly dirty dancing with a transvestite dancer.  I left after that, but the optimist in me likes to think they got lucky.

Ciao

[Hoda]

... in response to Why is it?, posted by soltero on Nov 8, 2004

[This message has been edited by Hoda]

let's take your own words for example....

Negative experiences are just as important as positive ones in helping the true seeker in finding what they are looking for, but anyone trying to give that side of it gets run out on a rail
- Naaah...I've seen enough good & bad get hammered here! You'll probably find more "bad" than "good" posted. Once you, me or anyone places a post on a forum...it's open season. RJ, isn't being treated any differently. He made a "public" accusation & was initially only going to give details privately.....Not kool! Soltero, if anything, the guys with the "good" stories disappear from the board, more than the guys with the "bad". I wish, more guys married to latina's would stay around. The Asian board has cornered the market on "couples" posting. We could use that here!

Whether the guy was for real or just a troll, we may never know..
- That's what questioning is about! Man, you should have seen things around here in the ahem....Good ol days (lol). RJ, came out blasting on this lady, without offering any background about himself. Nothing about how the relationship started, how many trips he made, nothing about himself. Only about this lady. After he was pressed to post some details...this 8K scam has reduced somewhat in value, after you factor in the cost of his trip(s).

RJ needs to be a bit more forthcoming about the chain of events that lead up to his first post. I don't think that this is too much to ask for! I feel bad for RJ...No one should have to suffer in this quest. But he's not the first & he won't be the last. The archives are littered with stories of busted hearts & pockets. Did RJ look through them? The archives, are also a treasure trove of success stories of first-timers & guys who have bounced back from initial failures. In this quest...you can be your own best friend or your own worst enemy!

Keep ya head up, RJ.....

[soltero]

... in response to No free rides bro..., posted by Hoda on Nov 9, 2004

Hoda, I agree with you. RJ sent me an email giving me some background on himself and his exepriences in Cali. I can't go into it because he sent it to me privately, but I repeatedly asked him to come back and post again with more detail. This is the internet, and I have been around long enough to know that anyone can put anything here and it doesn't necessarily make it the gospel. It just struck me strange as how the guy was pitbulled out of the gate. Anyone who has been here for a while knows the rules of engagement on PL. The guys here give as good as they get, and that's all good, but this was the guy's first post. I lurked for a long time before I posted the first time and when I posted that first time, even though it wasn't something so serious, I was a little skeptical as to my reception as well (and still am everytime I post...lol) but it is all good, because I know what to expect. I hope he comes back and posts again, because from what he told me, if it is true, he has a lot to offer here.

[Hoda]

... in response to Re: No free rides bro..., posted by soltero on Nov 9, 2004

[This message has been edited by Hoda]

"RJ sent me an email giving me some background on himself and his exepriences in Cali. I can't go into it because he sent it to me privately, but I repeatedly asked him to come back and post again with more detail."

-Soltera, see what I mean? In his first post, he "publically" blows the woman up, then seeks support via "private" contacts.....that ain't working! He could just as easily posted some of the events, that he felt lead to his alledged scamming by this woman. RJ can't be embarassed....he already has let the cat out the bag! Post publically, let others point out what he possibly did right and/or wrong....and then get back on the saddle. We have guys here, who have suffered just as much emotionally & a whole lot more financially. No need to mention names or circumstances...but these guys opened up to the board, for all see & judge for themselves!

I ain't concerned about RJ's spelling and/or grammar! RJ just needs to post more, than what he already has!

[Landover]

... in response to No free rides bro..., posted by Hoda on Nov 9, 2004

Good evening, my name is Jim Learher of PBS McNeil Lehrer Report. Tonight in our televised presidential debate I will be the moderator my name is Jim Learher of PBS McNeil Lehrer Report and I would first just like to say to both presidential candidates, "There are no free rides bro".

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to Why is it?, posted by soltero on Nov 8, 2004

Richard wrote me off-line and said my message made him feel worse.  I apologize.  He also took a shot at me because I have failed at this.

It bothers me that some men try to buy love.  Besides being a failed idea it gives women the idea that if a man doesn't throw money at her he doesn't love her, which is also false.

As far as trying to defend an idea that Latinas are perfect, I don't believe that at all.  Some are very bad.  That's not why I replied below.

Steve

[soltero]

... in response to Re: Why is it?, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 8, 2004

I think you were just taking a jab at the guy out of sport. Having been an "old pro" at this and having your own ups and downs and survived them, you probably take all this stuff with a grain of salt, but I got the feeling that the guy was hurting and that he was sincere. Call me a sucker and it won't be the first time or the last, but it didn't even seem like he was given the benefit of the doubt. I have been taken before, and will probably be taken again. It's just money. I always make more. Not saying that I don't try to guard against it, and not saying that it doesn't affect me, but bygones. I don't want to get to the point that I am Howard Hughes living in a dark hotel room afraid of human contact. You, I could understand. It follows what I have gotten used to on occasion as "WWDSD?". It just seemed like the guy was mauled to me. He sent me an email too, and I asked him to post the full story if he has any skin left after leaving the lion's den he entered the first time. OOUUUCCHHHH!!!! Some of us "newbies" want to hear all sides...

[Calipro]

... in response to Re: Re: Why is it?, posted by soltero on Nov 8, 2004

You'll never hear the womans' side.

[soltero]

... in response to You'll never hear all sides....., posted by Calipro on Nov 8, 2004

but I would like to. I especially would like to here her side. What ever happened to the Latinas who used to post here?

[kented]

... in response to Re: You'll never hear all sides....., posted by soltero on Nov 8, 2004

There is absolutely nothing hard to believe in his story.  He thought he had a novia, sent her a lot of money and it turns out she wasn't his novia after all.

Let's face it.  It is really hard to resist a beautiful young woman being madly in lvoe with you.  There are certain basics of these relationships.

(1)  Take your time.

(2)  Meet her family

(3)  She her on multiple trips

(4)  Asking for sex or money too soon in a realtionship can be a red flag.

(5)  If things appear to not add up there is only one explantion.  SHE IS A LYING WEASEL!!!  Zip up your trousers and don't let the door hit you as you leave.  

There are lots a great women and lots of oportunists throughout Latin America.  We need to keep our eyes open and learn from our mistakes and the mistakes of others.

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to Re: Re: Why is it?, posted by soltero on Nov 8, 2004

Soltero

You wrote:

"I think you were just taking a jab at the guy out of sport."

You're wrong.  I explained why I posted what I posted.  If you don't believe me, I'll get over it.

Steve

[soltero]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Why is it?, posted by DallasSteve2 on Nov 8, 2004

I said "I think..." , just want to make it clear that I wasn't trying to speak for you as to the why. I am just used to your posts having a humorous or satirical slant, so I "thought" this was another of those. That's all.

[Patrick]

... in response to Why is it?, posted by soltero on Nov 8, 2004

Without details to judge by, this "scam" may be nothing more than a woman who decided to break off an engagement.  He first said it was an $8,000 scam.  Then we find out that it's the cost of multiple trips, clothes, school for her, living expenses, and a ring.  Who's idea was it to offer her living expenses?  Did she request that he support her, or did he offer?

I've seen so many claims of scam where none existed that I've grown at least as skeptical of scam claims as I am of the claims many agencies make about Latin women.  At this point I'd say this is just as likely a story of a jilted man than of a scam.

[Scott]

... in response to Re: Why is it?, posted by Patrick on Nov 8, 2004

Where are you reading all this?  Or has it been edited out already?