Not to be cynical PERO...

[papi]

My conversation with Sr. Soltero below got me thinking of all the BS I’ve experienced and witnessed in LA:

-fellow gringos planning a trip to the beach with their new amigas and beforehand goes to the mall to buy each a bikini, which turns into a $500US shopping trip as they grab up all the clothes in the store

-Another gringo calls me to tell me that he got suspicious over a new novia he gave money to – later goes to the house with the police to discover she’s actually married to a Colombian

-The many requests I have received for "loans" - see gift in the Colombian dictionary or to pay for the babysitter, gas, new cell phone, etc

-The many times I heard the I could not make it to meet you story because "my best friend got a car accident and I was at the hospital with her all day...and I did not have minutes left on my phone"

-The man who spends months writing to a woman in an agency visits her putting all his eggs in one basket to later discover she’s a minor

now don’t get me wrong – I love these beauties as much as the next gringo but they at times can make you nuts.

[Calipro]

... in response to Not to be cynical PERO..., posted by papi on Oct 22, 2004

I honestly have a very hard time understanding how some guys can be such losers with women.

"-fellow gringos planning a trip to the beach with their new amigas and beforehand goes to the mall to buy each a bikini, which turns into a $500US shopping trip as they grab up all the clothes in the store"

If a guy didn't want to buy $500 worth of clothes for his girlfriend why would he do it? Is he afraid he won't get laid that night? Does he think that this is the only woman in the world that finds him attractive?? Is his self esteem so low that he feels that he has to always buy a woman something to maintain a relationship??

"-Another gringo calls me to tell me that he got suspicious over a new novia he gave money to – later goes to the house with the police to discover she’s actually married to a Colombian"

Well this guy really has problems. Why would you call any woman your girlfriend if you have never been to her house before? Why was the guy so upset? Did he really give her that much money or was this the first time that he ever slept with another man's wife? Or is he just more comfortable with other guys sleeping with his wife?? hehehe !!!

"-The many requests I have received for "loans" - see gift in the Colombian dictionary or to pay for the babysitter, gas, new cell phone, etc"

Well I could fill up a whole page answering this one so I'll try and keep it short. Most caleñas have never had a steady job in their lives so how do you think that they got 90% of what they have (clothes, jewelry, etc.)? I'll give you a clue, somebody gave it to them.

Now as far as asking for things there are two possible scenarios. If you really are her boyfriend and she really cares about you and she is asking you for things she really needs then when she asks you for something she is really asking to get banged all night long.

If you are not really her boyfriend as in not having sex on a nightly basis then she is using you and pretty much thinks you are a chump when she asks for things.

I know some guys don't have a clue wether or not a girl really likes them and this is why I invented rule #1.

"-The many times I heard the I could not make it to meet you story because "my best friend got a car accident and I was at the hospital with her all day...and I did not have minutes left on my phone""

Did it really have to get to this point before it dawned on you that she didn't really care for you???

This is why I often tell guys that they should date more than one hot babe at a time in Cali. Even if they are to dense to realize that one woman doesn't really care for them, they will often be able to see that at least one of the women they are dating likes them more than the others.

"-The man who spends months writing to a woman in an agency visits her putting all his eggs in one basket to later discover she’s a minor"

It could have been worst. He could of found out that she wasn't even a girl but some gay guy:-)) Writing is B.S. You should only write them to tell them when you are coming and where to meet.

"now don’t get me wrong – I love these beauties as much as the next gringo but they at times can make you nuts."

Now don't get me wrong. I love women and I love caleñas most of all. But, if I got victimized by them half as much as some of you guys I would end up hating them all.  

[kented]

... in response to Help me out here......., posted by Calipro on Oct 22, 2004

When you live there you must be major estupido to fall into any of these traps.  

Guys who fly in for two weeks are prone to being deceived because they aren't there long enough to understand what is really happening.

[papi]

... in response to Help me out here......., posted by Calipro on Oct 22, 2004

i remember and approve of your rule #1. i also agree with the statement below on the many social misfits visiting LA. on the hospital story and other no shows - the funny thing is that they sometimes really pursue you afterwards (when you back off) - go figure? on the guy with the minor - he also spent a week in the agency dating her and putting all his eggs in 1 basket, not just writing. on the victim comment - i do my best to keep my red light radar up but am still surprised from time to time by the rude behavior, etc.

[Chris F]

... in response to Help me out here......., posted by Calipro on Oct 22, 2004

The problem is some of the men who go to South America are total "social misfits" and in Cali for example an experienced Calena can see them from mile away and milk them for all their worth.

This type of gringo rarely has any clue he is being played like a banjo.

[Fuzzyone]

... in response to Not to be cynical PERO..., posted by papi on Oct 22, 2004

But think of the other side of that coin too Papi... How many girls or woman did you meet in S.A. that have stories to tell that make you really wonder about men from the U.S.A. I heard a story of the girl that went to visit her Novia in Mexico and the trip turned into hell. She managed to call family to say that everything was real bad and got cut off, don´t know the ending to the story but I bet it was not good. How many men write these girls promising that they love them before they ever met them them. Or here is a good one... telling the girls they will come to visit them in two months and when the time comes the guys mother died or father is very ill. I have heard them all down here and even got the chance to read some of those very loving e-mails.

I think that any gringo that lets him self get ripped off by buying everything for the girl to the tune of 500 dollars got what he deserved. After the Peruvian girl I opened my eyes alittle and promised I would never let myself get put in the same boat again....

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Not to be cynical PERO..., posted by Fuzzyone on Oct 22, 2004

True,there can be problem guys.But as far as blatant dishonesty and using the girls probably have us 10 to one.This is not all girls.One agency owner tells me if the relationship is right for both people it will work.True,but there are alot of girls who will just take what they can from a guy they don't care about.Might or might not treat a guy they care about the same.
There are lots of sincere girls.Even most of these can be trained to take your money if its easy to do.You are right,the guy needs to watch.But you want to believe them,untill it becomes blatantly obvious  you are being lied to or used.
And excuse city.Lie in a heartbeat over about anything to avoid facing about anything.Not all girls but pretty common,even amoung what we might consider good girls.

Pete

[papi]

... in response to Re: Not to be cynical PERO..., posted by Fuzzyone on Oct 22, 2004

yes, i agree and two wrongs dont make a right. but i dont have to date the gringos who treat their novias badly. I only need to concern myself by not being on the receiving end of Latinas gone wrong

[Fuzzyone]

... in response to Re: Re: Not to be cynical PERO..., posted by papi on Oct 22, 2004

You are 100% right about that.... not beening on the recieving end...