MEDELLIN

[papi]

I have never been to Medellin - closest i got was Pareda. Anybody here can give me an update on things there?? What about www.colombiansweethearts.com? i recall reading some good reports on them earlier. how are there accomodations?

[zack]

... in response to MEDELLIN, posted by papi on Aug 13, 2004

How did things go with Ms Medellin?

[papi]

... in response to Re: MEDELLIN, posted by zack on Aug 14, 2004

Ms Medellin is not all that up to speed on email and i have not heard back from her since i arrived in the States the other day. Cheek kiss has been writing me since i blew her off. i may return to Panama and give it another chance with her. However, i would need to take a small plane from the city to fly near the border area where she lives but the place sounds very pretty and inexpensive so it might be a locale also worth checking out. From Panama, i could shoot down to Colombia

[Seeker]

... in response to MEDELLIN, posted by papi on Aug 13, 2004

Please look for my CSH report in the archives, I was there in Jan. '04. If you have any further questions, let me know.

[papi]

... in response to Re: MEDELLIN, posted by Seeker on Aug 13, 2004

i just read it..sounds like you were very pleased with the agency. Do you feel the accomodations were comparable to a decent hotel? I've seen some B&B's in Cali that were not all that great. Does it have fresh clean linens, towels? everything in good working order, toilets, showers? what is your opinion on the place? the photos on the site look attractive - any more feedback on the woman?? i'm 45 and prefer young, thin woman - ideal is about 25 mas o menos but would go younger.

[Seeker]

... in response to Re: Re: MEDELLIN, posted by papi on Aug 14, 2004

Papi,

I do feel that my room at CSH was comparable to a decent hotel and felt that I was getting great value for my $75.00 per night. My room was very clean, my bed was comfortable and had clean linens. Everything in the bathroom was clean, modern, in great shape and in working order.

During my entire stay at CSH, Steve (owner of CSH) was there and ran a tight ship. I know Steve is not always there since he is a pilot and travels back and forth from the U.S. to Medellin. Also, a wonderful woman named Dolly was in charge of cleaning and cooking during my stay. If she is still there, you will be spoiled by her fresh and authentic Colombian meals. Remember, that breakfast & lunch are included in the price; as well as refreshments for you and your dates, even beer if you'd like. Sometimes, I would go out on a lunch date and Dolly would save my lunch for dinner. Once I had an evening date and we were talking out by the pool, Dolly brought us a couple of glasses of wine and lit a candle. When have you heard of this at another agency? I'd suggest you inquire if Dolly is still there, she made a world of difference.

I did stay at the Dann Carlton as well. I recall it being around $50 U.S. and is superb. Maybe once you spend a week at CSH you might want to consider the Dann. Medellin seemed less expensive than Cali.

Distances in Medellin can be great, but there is a metro station about a 10 minute walk from the agency. There is also a large Carrefour (shopping center) within a five minute walk. I found the location ideal.

The women...as you can see on the CSH website, they tend to be on average older than the women in the Cali agencies. Although I have mixed feelings about writing women first, you may want to buy the addresses of 10 women you like and see what kind of response you get. In general, the women seemed more professional, sophisticated, grounded and conservative than the women in Cali. Almost all of my appointments showed up and were on time. On any random trip on the metro, you'll see plenty of women that would be very competitive at Chipi-Chape.

I would highly recommend CSH and Medellin. You'll see the land of the Paisas and experience first-hand why the Paisas have a reputation of being beautiful, friendly and hard-working. Not convinced? Go to Cali and make Medellin a side-trip for a few days and then you'll know.

[papi]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: MEDELLIN, posted by Seeker on Aug 14, 2004

Thanks Seek. i've been to Cali so know what you are talking about. Medellin sounds good. i'm in a debate with myself because i recently was in Panama and met a couple of woman of interest - one actually from Medellin and living in Panama. However, i'm not sure either are the ones so hence my interest in CSH. i've got to think about this some more.  they seem to have many beautiful woman on the site - did you end up making a love connections? if no, why? do you feel the woman are interested in gringos or much more reserved, happy with Medellin and not looking to go to the US

[Seeker]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: MEDELLIN, posted by papi on Aug 14, 2004

Unfortunately, I didn't make a love connection, but I did meet some outstanding women. The ones that were interested in me were not worth pursuing, in my mind. I was very interested in two women that weren't interested in me. I spent a lot of time with one woman, but she wanted me to stop seeing other women. I decided this jealous trait was a red flag, but maybe I was wrong. Anyways, I ran out of time. I remember thinking I was going to stay in Medellin 3 days and ended up staying around 11 and had to change my plane ticket to return home from Medellin.  

When I think of Paisas, I think of gypsies. I think they are willing to go to anywhere in the world where they will be able to make progress. There is no question in my mind that Paisas are proud of their heritage and city. They are more Paisas than they are Colombians. If they could, I think they would prefer to be their own country. I also got the feeling, Paisas can be your best and most loyal friend, but have the potential for being your worst enemy.  

When you go to the shopping mall at El Tesoro,for example,  your taxi will be sniffed by dogs, the trunk will be opened and checked. Mirrors will be used to check underneath the car. I met three people who had family members kidnapped and paid substantial ransoms. In one case, the father was killed after all of his bank accounts were emptied and a once wealthy family was left in ruins. Everything seems so calm and peaceful in Medellin, but real danger lurks around every corner. Paisas are aware of their reality, and I think they would be very willing and grateful to move to another place offering peace and greater opportunities.

Based on my experiences, I think there are plenty of Paisas in their early 20's who would be interested in guys our age. Age didn't seem very important to the women I met. The population of Medellin is very diverse. You'll see many blondes with colored eyes. Also, you'll run into guys wearing pony tails, earings, shorts and sandals... I think a gringo would blend in easier in Medellin, than in other Colombian cities.

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MEDELLIN, posted by Seeker on Aug 14, 2004

I have always attracted a lot of notice in Medellin. Of course I am blond, blue-eyed, 6' 2" gringo so it's pretty hard for me to blend in. This isn't all bad - the women are always especially interested and friendly.  Interesting that you mention danger - my wife claims that the place is very tranquil. On the other hand, her father was murdered by Pablo Escobar in 1985, 4 people in her Strata 4 building were kidnapped (and later released), and one time after I left her and she took a bus to work in Itaqui, the bus was hijacked by 3 armed gunmen and all the passengers robbed. So I guess "muy tranquilo" means different things to different people. She is my best and most loyal friend and would go anywhere for me..

[papi]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MEDELLIN, posted by Seeker on Aug 14, 2004

that has happened to me before whereas many woman in Colombia have interest in me but the 1 or 2 i really liked didn't feel the same way about me. It happened to me twice down there, once from a hottie in Bogota and another time in BAQ. Sometimes it is very hard to find a woman that rocks your world and the feeling is mutual. Also, sometimes difficult to find the balance intimately. Some are ready to hop in the sack on the first or second date whereas others want to hold hands and kiss cheeks for 6 months. i guess no one said it is easy. I currently have 2 woman now writing me from Panama that i recently met down there and one is a Paisa. Not sure how i feel about either but kind of want to explore things further with them. But i'm also intrigued by CSH so i'm trying to put my game plan together. Maybe i might take a long trip to Panama and if things dont work out fly to Medellen from Panama. need to give this some more thought.

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: MEDELLIN, posted by papi on Aug 14, 2004

They are happy with Medellin and for the most part, do not tend to be visa-seekers. The only reason my wife is in the United States is to be with me - she had no interest in going to the United States before this.

[Chris F]

... in response to MEDELLIN, posted by papi on Aug 13, 2004

You may want to ask that question to Utopia Cowboy...his wife is from Medellin and he may have mether through an agency

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Re: MEDELLIN, posted by Chris F on Aug 13, 2004

I met my wife on amigos.com. She would not have been caught dead going through an agency. The paisas tend to be more conservative and are less likely to go through an agency.

[pablo]

... in response to I met her on amigos, posted by utopiacowboy on Aug 14, 2004


Cowboy!

With that said, and knowing that many Latinas would not consider joining an agency, what practical ways would you suggest meeting these elusive gems?

Pablo

[utopiacowboy]

... in response to Re: I met her on amigos, posted by pablo on Aug 14, 2004

This is a good question, Pablo. One that I have been asked and that I have asked my wife. How do you meet women who are not on the internet dating sites, are not registered with an agency, and don't go to bars? This is by far the vast majority of eligible women especially in a place like Medellin. Probably the only way is through mutual friends or chance meetings in public places - I always found the paisas to be especially interested in gringoes - if I had not been with my wife, I could have struck up conversations with innumerable women while I was there. I think the key is to go there and circulate as widely as you can giving yourself opportunities to meet women - learning Spanish, joining clubs, going to church, anything that gives you a chance to get out and meet people.