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Author Topic: Emerging danger zones for travel  (Read 5505 times)
BubbaGump
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« on: June 11, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »

Like you guys didn't already know going to Columbia was dangerous.  I included Nepal since it came up a few weeks ago.

Nepal. Political groups eager for a parliamentary democracy are vying with a Maoist insurgency, making tourist treks there now a risky proposition.

"There's a lot of activity in Nepal's eastern half, which is a favorite trekking area for tourists," said Ira Russ, iJet's regional manager for the Middle East and North Africa.

"You have strikes in Kathmandu that shut down the capital for three or four days on end. Random attacks on tourist locations. Shoot-outs with rebels," Russ said.

"The tourists who go to Nepal to see the beautiful mountains and assume there's no problem: You might be better off waiting a couple of years before you go trekking."

Ecuador. Like some of its neighbors, the drug trade is making Ecuador potentially dangerous ground. "The U.S. is really pushing cocoa eradication projects. The cocoa growers are getting very upset. You're seeing demonstrations and violence is getting worse," LeBlanc said. "It's very similar to what's been going on in Venezuela and Columbia."

Bolivia. Anti-drug efforts and a tenuous political situation make this country a risky tourist destination. "You're seeing larger and larger demonstrations that have the ability to turn violent very quickly," LeBlanc said.

"It's been very oppressed from a worker standpoint and they're very poor. When you mix a poor culture with one that feels things aren't getting better, things can turn violent very quickly. That's what you see in La Paz," he said.

Brazil, Guatemala and Nicaragua. In all three countries, travelers are increasingly targets for crimes, said Sarah Slenker, senior security analyst at iJet.

"Many countries have a high level of crime (but) it's not a direct threat to travelers. In these countries, it's a direct threat," Slenker said. One trend is the "express kidnapping," where criminals kidnap tourists for about 36 hours and during that time force them to empty their bank accounts.

"Most people get released unharmed, but it's extremely prevalent particularly in cities like Rio and Sao Paulo," Slenker said, as well as in Guatemala, Nicaragua and some African countries. Avoid outdoor ATMs, dress modestly, and limit jewelry, she said.

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Locii
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Emerging danger zones for travel, posted by BubbaGump on Jun 11, 2004

Is all of this material from iJet?

If so, this is from their website:
"iJET publishes Destination Intelligence Reports for more than 160 countries on Amazon.com. Reports provide travelers with a single destination briefing which is updated each week with the latest intelligence and alerts from iJET's Global Operation Center."

So they sell the notion that you are at risk.  In your post they do not give a statistical breakdown of how many tourists (as a percentage, say) are targeted and in what way.  Thats because the number is "silly low" and would not merit information worth paying for.

I certainly hope they give statistical "tourist incident rate" if you are paying for the service.

Ciao

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kented
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Emerging danger zones for travel, posted by BubbaGump on Jun 11, 2004

Tourists are frequent crime victims in the US also.  Drivers get shot here for pissing off other motorists which is a crime that doesn't happen anywhere besides the US.  School masacres are a US phenomenon.  

I personally never worried about my safety in Colombia or Costa Rica (and US citizens have been attached and even murdered in CR too).

If you are the type who doesn't worry when you go to work each day, I wouldn't worry too much about many places.  I probably won't be going to Iraq anytime soon however.  

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BubbaGump
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to The only safe place is staying home, posted by kented on Jun 11, 2004

I felt pretty safe in Russia but their murder rate is about 4x the US rate.  I figure it's mostly mafia killing other mafia.  But the murder rate is more like 40x higher in Columbia and kidnappings are common.  That's a serious crime rate.
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kented
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: The only safe place is staying home, posted by BubbaGump on Jun 13, 2004

But this is Farc / paramilitay fighting over a larger piece of the drug trade.  It does not target US tourists.  

I felt as safe in Colombian cities as I do in Phoenix but I didn't rent a car and drive through the ountryside.

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DavidMN
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to The only safe place is staying home, posted by kented on Jun 11, 2004

Agree with the overall message but on the school massacre thing, sadly they are not a U.S.-only phenomenon. Germany had one right about this time two years ago and Scotland had one a few years before that. I think, but I'm not sure, that 15-20 were killed in each instance.
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kented
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2004, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: The only safe place is staying home, posted by DavidMN on Jun 11, 2004

School masacres and probaly road rage are not 100% in the USA but I'd bet we have well over 50% on the entire world in each category.  

One cannot predict disasters but if you spend your life worrying about the above plus earthquakes, volcanos etc, you WILL NEVER WANT TO LEAVE YOUR HOUSE.  You'll be completely safe but when you die of old age, you will have failed to live.

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