wats the difference

[outwest77]

If Cebuanos speak cebuano, do manila speak maniluano,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[outwest77]

... in response to wats the difference, posted by outwest77 on Aug 13, 2001

for your posts informative as well and indepth on
a lame question that turned out to be quite provacative.

[Ray]

... in response to wats the difference, posted by outwest77 on Aug 13, 2001

:-)

[Dave H2O]

... in response to Actually, in Manila they speak mostly &q..., posted by Ray on Aug 13, 2001

Hi Ray,

I'll bet that's true. Most Hispanics speak "Spanglish" where I live. I can usually only understand the FOB's (Fresh Off the Boat) from South America.

Dave H.

[Dave H2O]

... in response to wats the difference, posted by outwest77 on Aug 13, 2001

Hi outwest,

Pilipino (Tagalog) is one of two official languages in the Philippines. English is the other. There are over 100 different dialects spoken in the Philippines. Some have been classified as separate languages. There was a great need for people to be able to communicate with each other in a common language. Since the capital of the Philippines is Manila, Tagalog was chosen in 1937. Tagalog is the native language of the area. There are actually more people who speak Bisayan as their native tongue. Due to protests by other language regions, the name Pilipino was adopted. Tagalog was declared the base language and a few words from other dialects were added. This was an attempt to make it more acceptable to other language speakers. It is still esentially Tagalog and usually called that. Tagalog and English are both taught in schools. However, non-native Tagalog speakers usually speak it with an accent. When they travel to Manila for work, education, or other purposes, many often prefer to speak English. It is an attempt to avoid standing out or being teased for being from the provinces.

Dave H.

[Dave H2O]

... in response to Different Region..., posted by Dave H2O on Aug 13, 2001

First let me quote Webster's definitions of dialect and language.

Dialect: a regional variety of language distinguished by features of vocabulary, grammar, and pronunciation from other regional varieties and constituting together with them a single language.

Language: the words, their pronunciation, and the methods of combining them used and understood by a community b (1) : audible, articulate, meaningful sound as produced by the action of the vocal organs (2) : a systematic means of communicating ideas or feelings by the use of conventionalized signs, sounds, gestures, or marks having understood meanings.

Tagalog and Bisaya are both classified as languages of the broad group of Meso-Philippine (middle)languages. They are both further broken down to be included in the Central Philippine language group. Tagalog has no other dialects since it is from one continuous region without geographic dividers. Bisayan on the other hand has many dialects, since it is native to a region of many islands which seperate the people that speak it. As a result of this isolation and lack of modern communication technology in the past, variations in the spoken language resulted in development of different dialects. These dialects include: Butuannon, Tausug, Surigaonon, Cebuano, Ati, Capiznon, Hiligaynon, Masbatenyo, Romblomanon, Bantoanon, Gubat, Waray-Waray, Aklanon, Malaynon, Kinaray-a,Cuyonon, Inonhan and Caluyanun.

This is just my take on the matter. Please feel free to comment.

Dave H.

[Pete]

... in response to wats the difference, posted by outwest77 on Aug 13, 2001

No, in Manila, they speak Tagalog, which is the national language and understood throughout the RP. Cebuano is just a regional version of Visayan. As my fiancee says joking around, "It's so unfair...we speak Cebuano and Tagalog but when in Manila, they can't speak our language so they force us to speak Tagalog!"