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BahiaBoy
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« on: April 21, 2004, 12:00:00 AM »

[This message has been edited by BahiaBoy]

I have been following this board for sometime now so I thought I'd make a contribution. BTW, I am not married to a Colombian.

I am 1st generation born in the USA to immigrants. I have been married 25 years to the same woman (7th generation WASP American). I have yet to see my 45th birthday (do the math...got married REALLY young).

It has been my experience that when people marry outside of their culture whan they are not many generations removed, have a very tough time of it. Remember this when you decide you are bringing back a "nice" girl to the US. Take into account also that she is leaving her family, friends, culture and familiar surroundings behind. If she was coming back here into a Colombian sub-culture, and you were maybe 1st or second generation Colombian, you may have a chance. If you are bringing her back here and expect her to just slide into YOUR world, a 100% American world, you may have a surprise coming.

Works the other way around too. Ask my wife how it feels sitting around a table, time after time, year after year, listening to a very difficult (not Spanish) language, catching every 10th word; listening to weird music; eating funky foods; changing religion (her choice); etc, etc. Not easy. I am surprised she didn't dump me all these years.

If you're pushing 50, and your novia is mid-twenties, try to think with the head on your shoulders, not the one in your pants. When you were 24, would you have even wanted to kiss (let alone have sex with) a 50 year old? I doubt it. And don't believe that "Latina women like older men" crap. They like it because you are secure but will most likely have a young lover or two along the way. Hey, who can blame her? Remember The Latina's Rules for the Perfect Man:
1. It is important that a man helps you around the house and has a job.
2. It is important that a man makes you laugh.
3. It is important to find a man you can count on and doesn't lie to you.
4. It is important that a man loves you and spoils you.
5. It is most important that these four men don't know each other.
Seriously guys, youth is youth.....

For you second timers thinking you will find the sweet demur woman of your dreams (vs the gnarly b*tch you married the first time), I offer you this. Marriage is really, really hard under the best of circumstances. You need to really examine yourself and figure out what went wrong. Just because a girl is from a foreign country and sweet, it doesn't mean she will be a doormat for very long. Learn from your mistakes and MAYBE you have a chance.

For those of you who are "attached" and thinking that you'll find something better or easier....think again. Listen to my uncle. Here was his advice to me 25 years ago:

"There are 100 rules to marriage nephew. Rule #1 is NEVER, EVER break up your house. Rule #2 is get as much p*ssy as you possibly can in life. Rule #3 is see rule #1. Rule #4 is see rule #2, etc, etc."
Sound advice when you consider the alternatives.

OK, one more thing and I'll get off this podium that I have somehow worked my way onto. My mom was gonna marry a US soldier after the war. She was poor, he was nice, the family pushed her hard to do it (all they had was rubble for a home after the Nazis were done). I have to give her credit. He came back to get her and she sent him back with a broken heart. She didn't have the heart to do it. She married some geeky neighbor who is still my dad. Would it have worked out with the GI? My mom is 75 and still has a gleam in her eye when we talk about it. "Nah, it would have been fun for a few years...exciting. But in the end, I would have been unhappy. He was a nice boy, and he loved me, but I would have really broke his heart then, wouldn't I have".

Just my 2 cents.
PS Wonder if there's women like my mom still around Smiley?

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kented
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2004, 12:00:00 AM »

... in response to Some advice marrying foreigners, posted by BahiaBoy on Apr 21, 2004

I may be a minority but I really found your thoughts helpful and there is lots of truth in them.

Marriage is hard work and that's why most of us have at least one failed marriage.  Compromises are never easy and unless love and communication are really strong and compromises go both ways, it won't work.

Anyone who doesn't understand the challenges of living in a foreign culture, obviously has never done it.  Seven months in Costa Rica (the last four with my wife) taught me how really difficult it can be.  Many times my wife reminded me that I was not livng in the US and things were different in Costa Rica.  I speak Spanish fluently, had visited Costa Rica ten times and was in control of my own finances.  

My wife is coming here without family (except her daughters), without English and completely dependant on me to narrigate the culture as well as take care of her.  I really love her but I'll need to remind myself everyday how really difficult some things will be for her.  

People who discount your caveats about the challenges that such a relationship involve are not being honest with themselves.  The successful marriages require lots of empathy from the gringo.

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colgre
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2004, 12:00:00 AM »

... in response to Some advice marrying foreigners, posted by BahiaBoy on Apr 21, 2004

just go away!
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Troy
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2004, 12:00:00 AM »

... in response to Some advice marrying foreigners, posted by BahiaBoy on Apr 21, 2004

I don't necessarily agree with your post.  Some of it I do, but there are no broad rules that can be applied to every person.  Your 100 rules was stupid.  Your Latina rules for the perfect man was unusually pessimistic.  also, i don't agree with your assessment that marriage is really really hard.  A bad marriage is really really hard.  a good marriage has its ups and downs, but life in general has its ups and downs, so what's the difference.

sorry, but your advice does nothing for me.  

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lswote
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2004, 12:00:00 AM »

... in response to Some advice marrying foreigners, posted by BahiaBoy on Apr 21, 2004

This is all speculation on your part.  You have no first hand experience about your claims.  As a 50 year old 7th or 8th generation wasp who was married to an American woman for 13 years, I am not finding any of the problems you spoke of with my 34 year old Colombian wife.
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Patrick
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2004, 12:00:00 AM »

... in response to Some advice marrying foreigners, posted by BahiaBoy on Apr 21, 2004

"If she was coming back here into a Colombian sub-culture, and you were maybe 1st or second generation Colombian, you may have a chance."

I'll let my wife know that we don't stand a chance, probably not until after we celebrate our 7th anniversary in June though.

I do agree that's it difficult, probably more so for the men who are going South just because they can get a younger, hotter piece of ass there than here (which seems to be a fairly high percentage).  For men who learn a decent amount of the language and enjoy the culture, I think things are much easier.  You don't have to be an Nth generation immigrant for that.  It also helps to not chase women way out of your league.

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