A Change of Heart

[Celt]

... in response to US Government is the same, posted by Hamlet on Sep 27, 2002

Then I suppose jumping on inner-tubes and trusting their
luck on the high seas is their educated response to Castro's
unlimited opportunities to leave the country. Please tell that to the Cuban female volleyball team, whose members
were refused any chance to play professional volleyball in
Europe--after delivering medals to Castro.

[Nico]

... in response to Re: Retraction, posted by Pete E on Sep 26, 2002

yeah I guess so Pete

[Fuzzy]

... in response to A Change of Heart, posted by Aaron on Sep 26, 2002

You sound alittle depressed to me, I am just kidding you but I know the feeling. I went the agengy route but what I did was write alot of woman and slowly cut it down to several woman I would like to visit. Alot of the woman I wrote to were in Peru, things worked out pretty well for me. The woman I married is well educated a teacher in fact. Yes I did have to compete against several other males. Look at it from the woman's view what if the man is just stringing her along making promises that he does not intend to keep? I can use my wife as a example she had a man from C.A. writing her he wrote her for about 2 years many times he promised to come see her but something always got in the way... got hurt.. mother got sick... finally he was a writer went on vacation to hawaii for a writers convenction. Basically stringing her along too bad for him I met her. The other guy writing her? he had 8 kids already and did not appear to be slowing down wanted a large (gulp) family.
In the beginning you are going have to compete no matter what you do a woman is going to cover herself too it is just how you market yourself.

[Aaron]

... in response to Re: A Change of Heart, posted by Fuzzy on Sep 26, 2002

n/t.

[Nico]

... in response to Thanks Hamlet and Fuzzy....but....I'm do..., posted by Aaron on Sep 26, 2002

Latin women while quite beautiful are not (for lack of a better term)known for their high educations. Of course there are Latinas with educations and I certainly do not intend to offend anyone. But with their economic limitations you generally won't find them in the numbers that you would find in say one of the former communist nations such as the FSU with its robust educational system. I think Latinas are known  for being warm hearted, beautiful, family orientated ect.
If education is high on your list you should consider going down there. I just think you would run into larger numbers of those that would meet your criteria.

Also as far as meeting U.S. Latinas Good Luck! You'll need it. Once the foreign ones cross that border they know they have a choice and all of a sudden get picky. They also have a virtual ocean of young latin men to choose from that they would not have access to in their own country. Also gringos aren't the novelty here that they are in these foreign countries.
The U.S. citizen Latinas are indestinguishable from American women wiith regard to their all the characteristics we go other countries to avoid. The attractive ones are more often than not taken. And if they are single a very high proportion have kids. The single, attractive ones  without kids are hit on constantly by men of all walks. They know they are a valuable commodity.
Oh well at least you'll learn Spanish.

Nico

[Jebster]

... in response to A Change of Heart, posted by Aaron on Sep 26, 2002

If so, don't bother reading this post further.

If you haven't, you'll find Bogotá offers the best chance of meeting an attractive, educated and sincere woman. That is not to say that you can't find one in any other Colombian city. It only says that you will have many more good candidiates in Bogotá.

[Aaron]

... in response to Did You Try Bogotá , posted by Jebster on Sep 26, 2002

Jebster,

Thanks for your suggestion. Yes, I plan on travelling to Bogota this year, or maybe Costa Rica.

The social norms in Bogota are allot different than those in Cali, but there are still some simularities.

What I like about women from Bogota, I never been there but have some lady and male friends from there in the USA, is that they are more polished but sensual, and many are well educated.

I like it when women are polished and professional. Women like that inspire me to be the same way.

Aaron

[DallasSteve2]

... in response to A Change of Heart, posted by Aaron on Sep 26, 2002

Aaron

I'm not looking for an argument on this subject either.  You make some valid point about agencies.  But don't expect to make a controversial post on a public forum and not have people respond.  If you don't want to argue with them that's fine, but they have a right to post their opinion in response to your opinion.

Responses probably won't change your mind, and that's OK, too.  There may be better methods for you to meet a woman.  However, for many men agencies are a good choice and I think your 4 points need to receive comments.

1.) I'm looking for a well educated, intelligent, extremely sincere, sensible, and very attractive latina ... would probably not join an agency in the first place.

You've been to agencies and don't think that type of women are there.  I have been to agencies and I think that they are there.  Every man must decide for himself.  If they weren't they I think fewer men would be making return trips to agencies.

2.) Frankly, in Colombia and other countries, agencies are looked at with suspicion.

True.  If that bothers you then stay away from agencies.  Frankly I don't give a rats @ss what others think if I can find a good woman there (and I did).

3.)  A lot of times I experienced situations where I was unknowingly competing against many guys for the same girl.

Welcome to the real world.  Whether they are in agencies or not other men will always be competing for the woman.  Especially if they are the type you described in point 1.  Get used to it or give up.  It would be nice to find a world where other men don't compete for the woman I am interested in.  If you find it please post it here.  That would be useful information.

4.) I feel going to agencies, spending my income to meet 30 women in two weeks is a waste of money

Agencies help many men to save money looking for a wife, because without them they would need to spend more days travelling, which costs money, and away from work, which also costs money.

Having said that, agencies are not a perfect solution and you may have better luck looking for women in other methods.  When I was in Cali it seemed to me that the women in the malls were more attractive than the women in the agencies.  You may want to try approaching them on your own or with the help of a "guide" in Colombia.

Good luck.

Steve

[Aaron]

... in response to Agencies defended, posted by DallasSteve2 on Sep 26, 2002

DallasSteve,

You made some valid points based on your experience.

And yes, when I went to the malls and other places, I saw plenty of women who were more attractive than those in agencies. And seemed better kept in some respects.

This is where I'm going to focus my attention. As for a guide, well some guidance will help but I feel totally comfortable doing it indepently. Plus, the guides I will be using are true time-proven genuine friends from their countries. They know what I'm looking for, they know what kind of person who would suit me best, and they have offered to help me.

The last thing, and this is a thing that I will always believe because my parents told me so, and all my family and friends believe the same way....

If a gal is truly interested in a guy, she is going to show it, and competing with other men for her attention isn't going to be a factor. She isn't going to be a player if she's a decent person. Vice versa for a man.

Aaron

[Wayne1]

... in response to Re: Agencies defended, posted by Aaron on Sep 26, 2002

Good post,

I agree.

Let us know how it goes for you.

Wayne