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Author Topic: Control measures and us?  (Read 3735 times)
Cali vet
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« on: September 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

In todays El Tiempo (9/15) there are several articles about President Uribe's Decree 2002 which include a bunch of "control measures". These new measures apply to half the country and include Valle, where Cali is located. One of them is about foreigners:

"Control a extranjeros

Las nuevas normas establecen que todo ciudadano extranjero que permanezca en Colombia deberá presentarse ante los gobernadores respectivos a explicar el motivo de su presencia y solicitar un permiso de esa unidad para permanecer en la región.
Sobre su tránsito y permanencia en las zonas de Rehabilitación y Consolidación, los extranjeros deberán informar cuál es el motivo de su movilización por el lugar. La autoridad militar de la zona tendrá ocho días para definir si autoriza o no su presencia.
Si no se presentan a la guarnición militar o no logran explicar satisfactoriamente la razón de su visita, podrán ser expulsados del país.
Las normas cobijarán a corresponsales de prensa extranjera, trabajadores de multinacionales, representantes de ONG, investigadores, científicos y turistas."

I wonder how this will shake out for us. It sounds really cumbersome and maybe they don't plan to apply it to Cali, just the rest of Valle. One security agent who works at the airport told me an average of a hundred Americans pass through daily and that doesn't include all the other foreigners. In a nutshell it says every foreigner who stays in Colombia has to present himself to the Governor, explain his motive for being there and ask for permission. The local military authority will have eight days to decide yes or no. If you don't present yourself to the military authority or don't give them a satisfactory explanation for your presence you can be expelled. Applies to international workers, UN representatives, investigators, scientists and last but not least TOURISTS.  

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Celt
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Control measures and us?, posted by Cali vet on Sep 15, 2002

It is likely that, faced with a life and death struggle for
control of their country, the Colombian military cannot afford political correctness, and will actually engage in
racial/national profiling. I expect that single Irish men
may be in for some tough questioning, while American marriage-adventurers may face lighter treatment.
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Pete E
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Control measures and us?, posted by Celt on Sep 16, 2002

I hope they don't get as stupid as the US,frisking grandma instead of concentrating on terrorists,who are 100 % middle eastern.It just amazing the things law enforcement types can come up with that do nothing to solve the real problem and just complicate life.

Pete

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Cali vet
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Control measures and us?, posted by Pete E on Sep 16, 2002

Problem that Celt may be refering to is that in Colombia the terrorists are not middle eastern, some are Irish like the  three in prison right now in Bogota and I suspect if you pass through any Colombian customs with an Irish passport you're going to get gone over with a fine tooth comb.
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Celt
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Control measures and us?, posted by Cali vet on Sep 16, 2002

Exactly, Cali_Vet: the Colombian government cannot afford but to use common sense.
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Celt
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Control measures and us?, posted by Pete E on Sep 16, 2002

Give your thanks to the Civil Service Protections, and the
inertia that comes from knowing that superior effort will not earn you a dollar more, and that taking a risk may actually cost you a few.
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