A new Medellin agency?..

[NW Jim]

Over on 2G's, this new agency in Medellin was mentioned, so thought I would post it here as a follow up to BOB101's post of several weeks ago. The site carries the Planet-Love logo.

http://www.truelovemarriageagency.com/index.htm

Anybody know anything about this agency?

[Michael B]

... in response to A new Medellin agency?.., posted by NW Jim on Jul 28, 2002

OK, Maybe I got up on the wrong side this morning, maybe I just haven't posted a "rant" in a long while, or maybe there realy ARE just too many things "not quite right" about this agency that offers 16yo's. Who knows?

Has the Planet-Love logo? Heck, this site has practicaly every logo in existance.

Patrick's rules say he won't accept an agency that lists ladies younger than 18. This guy brags about having 16yo's. Hmmm, wonder if Patrick knows this?

$75 for ONE email address? Not exactly inexpensive, is it?

His text says "Fewer-but-longer trips are more time- and cost-effective than more-but-shorter trips." TRUE---yet the tour section offers ONLY a bunch of TWO DAY trips. I don't know about you guys, but I just don't think that I'm tough enough to "Meet hundreds of lovely latinas in a single weekend!"....He doesn't specificaly mention a big "social" where hundres of them MIGHT show up, and does mention "1-on-1 introductions", so one has to infer that the method is: You pick some ladies out of the profiles, the staff calls them, some of them are busy with work or family, (hey, you're only there for two days, a girl needs SOME notice), some of them no-show, some of them want YOUR profile first and when they hear it say "no, thanks"...so how many can you really MEET in two days? 10? 20? 40? 75? Seems you would be doing good to actualy MEET 10 or them, 15 at the most. And even with only 10 in two days, you would just get them all confused....this one's face, that one's body, something nice that another one said, Maria seems nice, but she has two kids...no, wait, one kid, what's her name is the one with two kids.....see what I mean?

---cost-effective? ....for $377, not including airfare, hotel extra, and in the fine print he even makes you pick up the cab fare for 'meeting' you at the airport. Let's see, now, say $600 for air (400 to 800, depending on what US city you start from), $90 for 2 nights in the hotel he recomends, let's say $20 for cab to and from airport---OK, 377 plus 600 plus 90 plus 20 equals $1087. For TWO days? That's not cost effective, is it?. Oh, wait, he advises you to stay longer (of course), just that staying longer is NOT included in the $377, tour price, staying longer will cost you an additional $224 for a membership (but hey, according to his arithmatic, you SAVE $125 doing it this way).

He says he's a licensed professional counselor. So? Do you really NEED a licensed professional counsoler to sell you an address? Maye he throws in a couple of counseling sessions if you buy the full membership?

"The TrueLove Marriage Agency is the only professional Latin Introduction Service, bringing together marriage-minded American and European men (gringos) and Colombian women (Colombianas)."   ----What? The others aren't professional? They do it for FREE? Yeah, that's it, the others just do it as a hobby.

A Hotmail email address? Com'on! BTW, thought you said your name is "Brent", so how come in your email it is "Jeffery"?

And look, how convient, the ladies are sorted by bust size....(Don't beleive me? scroll over the pictures and notice the aaa's he has prefixed to the names of the more "amply endowed" and/or very young ladies to affect the sort order.)

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Yes, he has some pretty ladies (but then, don't ALL of the sites?) and some common sense advice about don't get married in two days and don't wander around the rural areas or stagger around in the bad part of town at 3:00 AM, and don't tempt the street theives by flashing cash and jewerly, but we all know that anyway (at least I certainly hope we all do).

He also has a heavy dose of the old "American women are no good, uncaring, greedy, etc." and "Colombian men abuse their women, abandon their children and stay drunk all the time" retoric.

Give him your $377, take his tour, give us a trip report and maybe you can prove that I was just being paranoid.

Well, you guys do what you like. For myself, I'd be just a little bit leary of doing business with Mr. Brent/Jeffery.

[Nico]

... in response to Featuring 16 year olds, no less, posted by Michael B on Jul 29, 2002

1st let me say that I generally agree that having the sixteen year olds on the website probably gives critics of our use of these agencies more ammunition. 2nd of all I think most of us would agree that it would be extremely difficult to make a relationship with a girl of that age work in the good old US. American society with its conceptions, values and influences would work strongly against this union.
So is this a bad thing? (Mature men marrying teenage girls) Well it wasn’t until the last maybe 70 years or so that these unions weren’t so uncommon here in the US. I’ll bet that there are men on this site that were born of such a union. Any of you educated, established, decent men in your 30’s and maybe in even 40’s would have been considered a prize catch for a women of that age way back when.
Not anymore. The emphasis for these young ladies now is away from family and motherhood and toward education and career (or maybe partying and sex). Go to any of the nation’s high schools and ask these young ladies what they’d like to do upon graduation. How many of them in these modern times are going to say “Oh I want to be a wife and mother” vs. “Oh I’m going to college to become a such and such?” Or I’m going to work” The college and work females would overwhelmingly outnumber any who want to prioritize family and kids.
Is that good? Well, the good news is we have this highly educated female workforce, and therefore make good use of our female resources. (In the work sense) Maybe it even contributes to this great economy.
I do feel there is a price however:
1)   Divorce with all of its negative effects on our kids and families, is out of control (I could elaborate but in an effort to keep this as short as possible I won’t)
2)    The teenage girl that is discouraged so fervently from marrying an older man (never mind that he is mature, intelligent, established, decent ect) or any good man for that matter, is instead encouraged to go college and move into a dorm with all this great freedom where she can and very often does,drink herself half blind every other night and sleep with various partners.

My conclusion is that this union is only bad because American society says its bad. There are pluses and minuses. That same union would often work if one lives in some nations other than the US. As for myself I’m not so gung ho on meeting and marrying a teenager (I’m 35), but it is quite unnerving when American women say 10yrs younger than you think you’re ancient. It wasn’t that way for my grandfather. No wonder I’m going abroad in search of a wife.

[Hamlet]

... in response to About the sixteen year olds, posted by Nico on Jul 30, 2002

Nico,

What astute observations of the American condition you have posted.  Nineteenth century French philosopher and observer of American culture Alexis de Tocqueville would be proud of you.

Hamlet

[NW Jim]

... in response to Featuring 16 year olds, no less, posted by Michael B on Jul 29, 2002

Michael,
You don't have to apologize for your rant. I posted this link as Medellin is like Bucaramanga, we're always getting questions about agencies and the lack of same in these cities.

My sense is that your intuition may be on the mark, at the very least this appears to be someone who isn't real familiar with how most agencies in Colombia operate.

I did send him an e-mail pointing out that posting 16 and 17 year olds is problematic, as the MOB business doesn't need any more black eyes; the enemies of choice already have too much ammo. Course I also know of an agency in Honduras that brags that one of it's clients married a 16 year old.

Like you'll I'll be waiting for a trip report.

[Michael B]

... in response to Re: You have a point, posted by NW Jim on Jul 29, 2002

Well, looks like Gregory gave us a (favorable, even) trip report, see above. But I still can't handle an agency that deals in 16yo's.

[Patrick]

... in response to Re: Re: You have a point, posted by Michael B on Jul 30, 2002

Thanks for pointing that out.  They're now off the list.

[AlexG32]

... in response to Neither can I, posted by Patrick on Jul 30, 2002

There is an agency on the Russian board who advertise girls even younger than 16!  The girls are as young as 14!  Here is the link!

http://www.apollon.net/servicea/month/index.html

[Patrick]

... in response to Hey Patrick!, posted by AlexG32 on Jul 30, 2002

I can never keep up with all these agencies and it's guys like you and Michael B who can help keep the lists clean.

[AlexG32]

... in response to Thanks!, posted by Patrick on Jul 30, 2002

No problem Patrick, it would be nearly impossible for one person to police each and every agency website you have listed.  I will keep my eye out for other sites who don't adhere to the over 18 policy.

[Darkstar]

... in response to Re: Thanks!, posted by AlexG32 on Jul 30, 2002

It's 18 or older, not over 18. Just to clarify.

Tim.

[Nico]

... in response to A new Medellin agency?.., posted by NW Jim on Jul 28, 2002

I don't know but this agency has some attractive girls. The owner is an American. Under the question and answers section some of his comments are pretty funny(and true)

[pablo]

... in response to Re: A new Medellin agency?.., posted by Nico on Jul 29, 2002

I asked two nationals in Bogota where they thought the best looking women came from in Colombia and they both agreed that Medellion was the place.  After looking at the photos at this agency though I would say there were a few nice looking ladies but no more than other cities.

BTW, is it my eyesight, but what happened to the one former model named Adrianna on the top row?  Scroll down and see the current photos.

[Gregory]

... in response to Re: Re: A new Medellin agency?.., posted by pablo on Jul 30, 2002

I would agree the most beautiful women are from Medellin. As I mentioned when I was in Medellin to Jeffery/Brent the agency owner that the city was full of beautiful women but the ladies that joined the agency were a lot less attractive than you would see around the city.

[pablo]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: A new Medellin agency?.., posted by Gregory on Jul 30, 2002

I noticed the same thing in Bogota about more attractive women not belonging to an agency.  I have some theories as to why the more attractive ladies aren't at the agencies.  Could it be they know they are good looking and don't feel the need to join the likes of an agency?  Maybe it's the perceived social stigma associated with being a member if an agency?  The moral of the story, if you do join an agency, don't be shy to approach a lady that has caught your interest on the street, mall, etc. as it might pay off.  One guy I know printed up photo cards with contact information to give out to both agency and non-agency women.  He was meeting all sorts of ladies because he was bold yet unabrasive.

As for Medellion, with only one agency (?) there must be lots of ladies available that haven't been spoken for yet.  How many Norteamericanoes did you see there Gregory?  Did any contacts look promising?  Would you return to Medellion?