Fathers permission for child to leave Colombi

[pack]

... in response to Re: Re:  I wish I was $1000's less sure, posted by Cali vet on Jun 20, 2002

thats exactly what i plan on doing.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Fathers permission for child..., posted by pack on Jun 19, 2002

Pack,

Pete's right and even in the case where no father is listed on the birth certificate, some legal actions need to take place.  Here's some info. from the Colombian Embassy themselves if you have some doubt;

http://colombiaemb.org/Aut_leg.htm#EnMINORS

El Diablo

[pack]

... in response to Fathers permission for child to leave Co..., posted by El Diablo on Jun 19, 2002

this is not sounding good for my situation.

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Fathers permission for child to leav..., posted by pack on Jun 20, 2002

If the father is not on the birth certificate or is agreeable you are OK,otherwise you got a problem.
Some people forge the signature,but then you can never take the kid back in untill he gets a US passport.
If the father cannot be located I think you can go court permission,but this could take time.Some of these jerks are probably too dead to sign.
Becoming a US citizen is something highly sought after by Colombians,I would think a father who cared about his son would want this for the child,along with all the other benefits of the US,like education.This kid probably didn't have much of a future in Colombia,here the sky is the limit.He's very intelligent,wants to be a doctor.
And the father can see him once or twice a year,about as much as he did before.
But pride,stubborness and vindicativeness can become involved.Yes,some of those Macho a--hole Colombian stories are true.Can you believe  a father who never gave his child one cent of support using this law to jerk around the people who are the ones who are taking care of him?Day 10,one day before the expensive solution to get the kid out on the first trip back,the father wanted a legal agreement redrawn because of one misspelled word.Even his attorney said it was OK.He said "I have all the time in the world."This is while we were stuck in Colombia 11 extra days on top of a 23 day vacation and his kid was about to get kicked out of school for being absent.
He has all the time in the world to be a low life loser in Colombia.He is a walking definition of A--hole.

Pete

[pack]

... in response to Re: Re: Fathers permission for child to ..., posted by Pete E on Jun 20, 2002

your story is part of the reason why these colombian men have such a bad rep.
i can see i have alot of research to do. from what she has told me the father of this boy is not a good man...so there could be problems on the horizon.

[Cali vet]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Fathers permission for child..., posted by pack on Jun 20, 2002

Best thing would be for you to go back down when you can and question her closely with aid of a good interpreter and after gathering and colating all the info from other kid bringeruppers on this board.

[pack]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Fathers permission for c..., posted by Cali vet on Jun 20, 2002

good advice!

[zzzz]

... in response to Re: Fathers permission for child to leav..., posted by pack on Jun 20, 2002

In my situation, I have also had many problems with the permission of my son's exit....... every time that there is that I go to Colombia of vacations with my son I am forced if is necessary to request the father's permission, this way the one responds for the boy or nr.  
 
The worst in this situation is like Pete says, it is that if the father says that he doesn't give the permission, my son cannot leave the country...In these moment my husband and I are fighting for my son's complete custody.

[pack]

... in response to Re: Re: Fathers permission for child to ..., posted by zzzz on Jun 20, 2002

are you living in the USA? if this man is such a problem you may have to make a decision not to return to colombia.

[mck]

... in response to Re: Re: Fathers permission for child to ..., posted by zzzz on Jun 20, 2002

That is horrible, it is almost like they treat children as common slaves or property. I think the children should be given the choice to travel with whoever they want and should have the same rights as adults. If  twelve year old kids are allowed to drink alchohol in Colombia, they should certainly be given the right to decide when and who they want to travel with without the parents permission.

[Cali vet]

... in response to poor children, posted by mck on Jun 20, 2002

Slave kids is all they is, they need to make some changes there. Those kids oughta be allowed drink and vote in the elections.

[zzzz]

... in response to poor children, posted by mck on Jun 20, 2002

who said that a boy of 12 y.o can drink alcohol??........ that is a new law  in my country?

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: poor children, posted by zzzz on Jun 20, 2002

I'm not sure what they law is,but we sent a 10 year old for beer and he got it.I guess the kid could drink it if he liked.
In bars you would probably have to 13 or so,not a kid who is 4'8".
Actually this is a big problem with rebelious 13 or 14 year old girls who go to bars and meet older guys.The sister of a friend has been a mistress of a mafioso type guy since she was 14.

Pete