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Author Topic: Tourist Visa For Your novia  (Read 5012 times)
outwest77
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« on: June 12, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

US tourist visa means
30-day stay
Posted: 1:45 AM (Manila Time) | Apr. 15, 2002
By Crispin R. Aranda
Inquirer News Service

Visit limits

Using the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks as an excuse for limiting visits, the INS said the "attacks . . . demonstrated that (the one-year maximum stay in the US for tourists) is susceptible to abuse by aliens who seek to plan and execute acts of terrorism."

Since virtually all legitimate tourists and business visitors are able to accomplish the purposes of their visit in less than six months, the INS reduced the maximum allowable stay for tourists from the current one-year period to only six months. Now it is 30 days.


If a tourist visa holder needs to extend his or her authorized stay in the United States, such an extension would be granted only "in cases that resulted from unexpected events - which are out of the alien's control - compelling humanitarian reasons, such as for emergency or continuing medical treatment . . ."

The INS rule states that when requesting an extension, the tourist visa holder must provide documentary evidence "showing ties to the country of residence and possession of sufficient financial means to remain in the country for the requested period of time."

Proof of financial means would include current bank records and lease or real property ownership documents in the tourist's country of residence or nationality.

The INS move followed embarrassing revelations the agency had approved the visa applications of two of the hijackers who rammed planes into the World Trade Center. The two principal hijackers entered the United States with valid tourist visas, which they later converted to student status (F-1).

Flight school

The gaffe elicited a public rebuke from President George W. Bush and US legislators who renewed calls to overhaul, if not abolish, the immigration service.

The two Sept. 11 hijackers - Mohamed Atta of Egypt and Marwan al-Shehhi of the United Arab Emirates - came to the United States on visitor visas.

They enrolled in a Florida flight school in July 2000, more than one year before the INS approved their student visas. Under the new INS rule, such enrolments would be prohibited.

The Immigrant Visa Center, an immigrant advocacy firm in Quezon City, expects more exclusions or airport-to-airport proceedings against legitimate visa holders simply because they might not be able to answer questions according to the INS officer's liking.

In effect, US non-immigrant visa holders face stricter scrutiny when applying for a visa and when using the visa to gain admission into the United States.

Before the INS rule, tourist visa holders had little to worry about since they had already hurdled the questioning of a consular officer in their country of origin.

The fundamental rule of US immigration law - under Section 214(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act - the bible of US immigration laws – states that all non-immigrants are considered to be "intending immigrants" unless they could prove otherwise.

Now, they have to prove harder, or face the prospect of being deported even before they were admitted.

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Crispin R. Aranda is a US-based immigrant specialist. He has offices in San Francisco, California, and is the first and only Filipino with broadcast and print updates on US immigration and visa matters. He hosted the program, "Amerika, Atbp.," on IBC-13. He also has a regular column on immigration in The Philippine News, the national newspaper of Filipinos in the United States. His firm, US Immigrant Service Network, has been serving Filipino and immigrant communities in the United States since 1986.

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mck
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Tourist Visa For Your novia, posted by outwest77 on Jun 12, 2002

If you bring your novia up on a tourist visa, always say she is staying for 5 weeks that way she gets more then 30 days. That is what she said to immigration. They gave her a little bit more of a hassle but it was worth it to get 6 months.
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outwest77
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hmm
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Tourist Visa For Your novia, posted by mck on Jun 13, 2002

i thought it was 30 days max unless u have a family emergency etc according to the ins rules, seems a bit
murky to me
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mck
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to hmm, posted by outwest77 on Jun 13, 2002

She got questioned by INS for about a half hour in a little room and I was almost afraid she was going to get deported, but luckily she pulled threw. Yes, the majority of the time they give 30 days but if you are for example a tourist who owns property in florida and spends winters there, they generally will give you 6 months. She told INS that she was a good friend of my family and she was going camping for 2 weeks and living with my family for 3 weeks and never mentioned a novio. INS got very suspicious but she pulled threw. We missed are connecting flight , but were able to get another later flight to Chicago. This is to be expected if you fly into Houston. Houston is the worst airport to bring you novia into.
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Pete E
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: hmm, posted by mck on Jun 13, 2002

I don't think you get your tourist visa at a little room in the airport.You better have it before you get to the airport.You need to get it at the US embassy in the country you are leaving.
As far as the 30 days,that is new and people who got visa's in the past got them for 6 months.Maybe she had a older visa and they were trying to limit it to 30 days as is the new policy.Good thing you got 6 months,30 days won't give you time to figure out this chick.

Pete

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Jebster
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: hmm, posted by Pete E on Jun 13, 2002

The most atypical latina I know of. Might as well look on the campus at Berkeley, there are many just like her !!! I still don't think this is real, sorry.
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Pete E
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Pete, I think I've Figured Her Out Alrea..., posted by Jebster on Jun 15, 2002

I posted when MCK first startred telling us about her it sounded like she was from Berkeley.Now whats the likelyhood of this out of Mexico?Not likely but maybe possible.
This is either the stangest chick Mexico has to offer or MCK is Doing alot of creative writing.
Hmm,could it be part of the story is true but he just embelishes with a huge imagination?And if it were true would anybody really want to give us all these details about a girl he is supposedly serious with?True or not MCK seems to have a big desire to draw attention to himself.
If she is immaginary at least his A-- is not at risk.
At least fantasy is safe.

Pete

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Red Clay
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: hmm, posted by Pete E on Jun 13, 2002

You don't get your tourist visa at the airport, but you DO find out how long you can stay when the INS officer at the airport stamps your visa or gives you the I94 card. It's actually up to their discretion at the moment. I think that's what MCK and his lady were negotiating.
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Jebster
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: hmm, posted by Red Clay on Jun 13, 2002

Is that possible ? Negotiating with the INS Huh The INS is rigid, inflexible, strict, etc.etc. I can't see them negotiating anything.
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mck
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to That's a good one, negotiating with the ..., posted by Jebster on Jun 15, 2002

we were not negotiating, they asked her if she had a boyfriend. She said no and continued to question her for a half hour.
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Pete E
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: hmm, posted by Red Clay on Jun 13, 2002

nt
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mck
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2002, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: hmm, posted by Red Clay on Jun 13, 2002

Yes, that is exactly what we were doing.
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