One Girl on Three Sites!! ??

[Pete E]

... in response to Re: Detail, details, details, posted by El Diablo on Dec 14, 2001

HD,
I don´t want anyone to confuse Mauricio´s Ruby with Rubby Rios who managed Latin Love.She was first class,a good manager and cared about the couples she hooked up.I hear she is in Miami starting some sort iof agency.

Pete

[pack]

... in response to Re: Not the Rubby who used to manage lat..., posted by Pete E on Dec 15, 2001

i heard that about two years ago that she was in miami starting up a agency...what ...shes still there and still starting up an agency? sloooooow?

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: Not the Rubby who used to manage lat..., posted by Pete E on Dec 15, 2001


Thanks Pete, you are right they are different people entirely and I appreciate you clarifying this point. I can see how a person could become confused after reading my post.

To be honest,  I'm uncomfortable with the idea of identifying any of these girls by name.  Upon reflection, I kind of wish I hadn't jumped in and added to this thread.  I've heard NOTHING to date that would convince me that this particular girl is a scammer and it doesn't  seem relevant whether or not some of us guys like her or not.  Who knows one guy might dislike her and another guy might think she's great.   I'm sure there are Calenas who don't particularly care for me and I would feel pretty bad if my name were being thrown around some forum as her's is here.

Say hello to Rocio and Sabastian for me.

El Diablo

P.S.  If you're bored sitting around the house, think about checking the Cali real estate market out.  I got the Sunday El Pais my last trip and we called a lot of adds looking at apartments to buy in the North.  It was a lot of fun and kept me active during some of those times when there isn't much to do.

[H2-Oh]

... in response to Re: Detail, details, details, posted by El Diablo on Dec 14, 2001

El D is right about Mauricio and Ruby. I was hounded by Ruby to have a sita with her sister. I talked to her sister for about 10 minutes so she, Ruby, would leave me alone. She's a very pushy chica and I would not give her the time of day. Another thing, Ruby, Mauricio, Adrianna and some other friends went out dancing last year. The ifrst and only dance I had with Ruby, she told me that the chica I was with was a whore and that I should have a date with her sister. Needless to say I was offended and didn't talk to her anymore.

My 2 cents,

H2-Oh

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: Re: Details and I know them, posted by H2-Oh on Dec 15, 2001

I hear what you're saying H2-OH and I've seen the same kind of classless behavior myself.  Remember my birthday party I had this past April.  Your ex was there among others. I also invited Mauricio, Norm and the all gringos at Mis Gringuitos.  Mauricio brought Ruby and at some point around 11PM she threw an absolute tantrum and started kicking him and yelling obscenities.  He wisely escorted her downstairs and out on the street but she continued with her little performance for quite some time.  Anyway, maybe she was mixing the rum with the aquardiente or something.  In any event, it added a little drama to my 40th birthday party. lol

El Diablo

[pack]

... in response to Re: Re: Details and I know them, posted by H2-Oh on Dec 15, 2001

sounds like this lady is bad news...thanks for the info...guys going to cali beware...remember these names.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Details and I know them, posted by pack on Dec 15, 2001


For me anyway, there's a huge difference between being a pushy chica with absolutely NO class and being an out an out scammer.  I'm certain of the former but unconvinced of the latter.

El Diablo

[pack]

... in response to Re: Details and I know them, posted by El Diablo on Dec 15, 2001

i dont know but she seems to be trouble either way you look at it.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: Re: Details and I know them, posted by pack on Dec 15, 2001

That we can agree on...(-:

[pack]

... in response to Re: Detail, details, details, posted by El Diablo on Dec 14, 2001

iv never run into the two sisters ...however their reputation is well known by frequent travelers to cali.

[Patrick]

... in response to Re: Detail, details, details, posted by El Diablo on Dec 14, 2001

So, does the "mucho dinero" that Digital says this lady has taken men for consist of nights out on the town and tanks of gas?   Sounds like quite a scammer!  Newbies reading only what Digital originally posted are probably thinking of guys who were conned out of thousands of dollars.  The paranoia in this runs deep.

No doubt there are scammers, but it seems that most times we get to the bottom of a story, it turns out there wasn't much to it and as you say, we only get one side of the story.  I know there are scammers out there, but I think it's usually over-stated by guys who are a bit paranoid.

[digital1942]

... in response to Re: Re: Detail, details, details, posted by Patrick on Dec 14, 2001

When I said "mucho dinero" I meant as in thousands of dollars.  This Lady is not publishing her picture everywhere she can find in order to get gas money and drinks.  I myself was only taken for the latter.  However, an extremely reliable source told me about the former.  Although I can speak for myself, I am not at liberty to reveal somebody elses name.  In any case, its not necessary because if a man is looking for a wife he clearly is wasting his time with this Lady.  I also think it was of value to specifically point out the picture of this one Lady instead of describing her modus operandi because she is so unusual it is not that much value to describe what she does.  She just has to be identified by her picture so men can avoid her.  I also must admit that I am somewhat troubled by how much of a benefit of a doubt a scammer is given on this board.  It seems like every benefit of a doubt is given to the scammer and the victim requires a mathematical proof.  If this is the natural order of things then maybe we should return the Marines and let Osama go.  In any case, you have allowed the information to get through and I thank you for that.

[pastilla100]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Detail, details, details, posted by digital1942 on Dec 17, 2001


You did the right thing digital.  When I served in the military we were expected to watch each others back.  You cared enough to warn us.  I don't think I would want any of these other guys in my unit.  Couldn't depend on them.

[El Diablo]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Detail, details, details, posted by digital1942 on Dec 17, 2001


Hey Digital,

Are you familiar with the idea of fair play or the notion that the burden of proof is with the accuser, not the accused??  You posted a women's picture, identified her by name yet you haven't really given us any facts.  You are passing on hearsay information that is at best vague.  No real details, no names, you yourself are posting from the position of anonymity and you won't reveal your friend's name because you indicate you are not at "liberty" to do so.  Do you see the irony of this statement!!  If you're not at liberty to name the guy, who I presume is your buddy, why are you at liberty to name the girl (including photo)?  This my friend is called a double standard or having your cake and eating it too.

I personally know who this girl is and I gave a few detailed first-hand stories (not hearsay) of my encounters and what I think of her.  H2-OH did the same.   For me, this isn't about whether or not she scammed your buddy. For me this about fair play and burden of proof.  I think if a guy steps up to the plate and identifies a women as a scammer and shows her photo for all to see, he himself outta come out from behind anonymity and first identify himself and second give a COMPLETE history of what happened and the relationship he has to all the parties involved.

I know a particular woman who scammed a friend of mine in Cali.  The story was pretty ugly and it's clear to most people that this was a scam.  I've never given out her name in a public forum, not because I think she's innocent but because my friend would prefer to keep his anonymity for obvious reasons.  This gal who took my friend is bad news but even the worst of the worst deserve to be treated fairly.

El Diablo

[digital1942]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Detail, details, details, posted by El Diablo on Dec 17, 2001

I understand and respect your position, but the concepts of "burden of proof" and "hearsay" have been devised to be narrowly applied in a court of law in specific situations.  We live our daily lives and make important decisions every day based on hunches and non-provable intuitions.  I'll accept all information wherever it comes from and may decide to reject someone without knowing for certain just to protect myself.  I understand that "details" were missing in my report, but I gave what I could.  I worry about some men going to Colombia full of vague notions of Yankee "fairplay".   It's just a different point of view.