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Author Topic: situation in Colombia  (Read 5360 times)
newby Jim
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« on: September 29, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

I'm a tad worried by the newsreports I've seen lately.. seems Colombia is headed downhill fast, especially economically. For those who've been there lately, do any of you see the situation as having deteriorated measureably, and if so, are the gals there a little more desperate to bail the sinking ship ?
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briloop
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to situation in Colombia, posted by newby Jim on Sep 29, 2001

Sunday September 30 12:09 PM ET

Ex-Colombia Official Found Dead

By JARED KOTLER, Associated Press Writer

BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) - The body of a popular former minister who was allegedly kidnapped by leftist guerrillas a week ago was found near a northern town, family members said Sunday, in a death that could jeopardize Colombia's fragile peace process.

Consuelo Araujo, President Andres Pastrana's former culture minister and wife of the nation's inspector-general, was shot to death and her body found near Valledupar, said family members, who asked not to be identified for security reasons.

President Andres Pastrana called the family to let them know the 62-year-old Araujo was dead, they said.

Araujo was a friend of Nobel literature laureate Gabriel Garcia Marquez and organized Colombia's main music festival, which is held in Valledupar.

Her killing threatened peace talks that Pastrana initiated nearly three years ago with the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, the strongest of Colombia's rebel armies.

The talks have produced few results and the rebels have been accused of abuses, including kidnappings, extortion, murder and drug trafficking, generating strong pressure for Pastrana to abandon the negotiations.

Authorities and witnesses said the FARC kidnapped Araujo and 10 other people at a roadblock on a rural road outside Valledupar, about 420 miles north of Bogota, on Sept. 24. Most of the others were freed.

Security forces had been trying to find her in the mountainous region near the Caribbean coast.

She was the wife of Edgardo Maya, Colombia's inspector-general, a watchdog agency in charge of investigating government officials.

On Saturday, FARC fighters blocked a peaceful caravan from entering a rebel-held demilitarized zone, forcing presidential candidate Horacio Serpa to call off a demonstration aimed at demanding rebel peace concessions. Serpa had planned to make a speech in the zone.

Pastrana called the rebel blockade of the convoy a blow to the peace process and said he had instructed his peace envoy to seek an immediate meeting with the FARC.

``With its attitude, the FARC is putting in doubt its word and its desire for peace,'' said Pastrana, before the announcement of the discovery of Araujo's body.

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Wasp
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Ex-Colombia Official Found Dead, posted by briloop on Sep 30, 2001

This woman's murder "threatened" peace talks with FARC?

Why is the government of Colombia still "talking" with these murderous criminals?

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Cali vet
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Ex-Colombia Official Found Dead, posted by briloop on Sep 30, 2001

That is very strange indeed. They didn't even give the family time to pay a randsom. Maybe she tried to escape (unlikely) or maybe there are other issues not out on the table. Everybody knows the FARC don't want peace so long as they have the upper hand and are well financed by drug taxes and kidnappings. What they want is power.
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Clevelander
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Ex-Colombia Official Found Dead, posted by Cali vet on Sep 30, 2001

hey Calivet, it looks like November in Cali is a go.  look forward to having a beer or two with you.  gonna make reservations at AllColombianGirls

Anyone else for November??

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Cali vet
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Cali bound november, posted by Clevelander on Oct 1, 2001

Well done. You're on!
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NW Jim
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Ex-Colombia Official Found Dead, posted by Cali vet on Sep 30, 2001

Cali Vet:

Here's what one news storys says, quoting other hostages that were released:

"They said Araujo was shot dead by the rebels after she fell down, exhausted from the trek, and refused to walk any further."

Apparently the army was hot on their trail. This ought to just about finish off Pastrana's "Peace in our time" plan.

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El Diablo
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to situation in Colombia, posted by newby Jim on Sep 29, 2001

The situation in Colombia has been bad for decades and in my opinion it will continue to be bad for some time.  At different times things may get worse and at other times perhaps better but in general it's been consistently a country in turmoil.  

Your question comes up on the board every few months as people read about problems with the FARC and the economy.  I do believe things are worse in Colombia since I've been traveling there however from the perspective of a guy looking for a wife, the situation has changed little.  

I don't particularly like the word desperate as it gives a conotation I think is perhaps misleading.  Having said that however, it is clear at least to me that the primary factor women choose men from foreign countries over their own men is the desire for increased oppurtunities for herself and future children.    This isn't a bad thing necessarily and it may have more merit than the reasons most of us men travel there for.

El Diablo

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NW Jim
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: situation in Colombia, posted by El Diablo on Sep 29, 2001

El Diablo,

Think I've found your "soul" mate:

http://www.tlcworldwide.com/tlc_site/g_su01b.htm

#AE515

LOL

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El Diablo
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Senor Diablo: Your "soul" ..., posted by NW Jim on Sep 30, 2001

Damm...she's hot.  I guess my soul searching days are over, thanks man.....lol

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