Any experiences with aspiring-latin-models?..

[joeythecloser]

The women on this site look absolutely astounding, I am planning a trip soon with my good friend and would like to know if any of the formum members have had any experiences either good or bad or otherwise indifferent with this particular agency.  Also note, as a guy on the look for the last 6 mos. I understand that you can meet a nice girl at a quote "bad" agency and vice-versa. with that said, does anyone have any experiences...

[Pete E]

... in response to Any experiences with aspiring-latin-mode..., posted by joeythecloser on Aug 27, 2001

Joey,
There are many reasons to stay away from this agency,high cost,hooker looking setup,bad reputation of the owner.
The bigest one might be that if you are looking for a good wife and not just looking to get laid these type of women are the ones to avoid,regardless of where you find them.Be carefull of the flashy ones.You might get lucky and find a good one but you are asking for trouble.
And,if just looking to get laid is what you want,why pay a middle man a huge mark up?

Pete

[NW Jim]

... in response to Any experiences with aspiring-latin-mode..., posted by joeythecloser on Aug 27, 2001

Joey,
Aspiring Latin Models is run by an older gentleman named Ed Beckwith, who has a mixed reputation on the latin boards.
He formerly ran LCI(Latin Connections)which allegedly went bankrupt in March 2001. Apparently leaving men who had bought lifetime memberships in the lurch. Within a very short period of time he opened the new agency.

Do some research, don't get sold on the first site with pretty faces. Several guys have recommended travelling to Cali,checking the agencies out and negotiating a daily rate, etc. Business down there is tough right now, several agencies in Cali have closed this year or reorganized, so put those negotiating skills to work.  

Good luck.

[pack]

... in response to Re: Be careful. Know who you're dealing ..., posted by NW Jim on Aug 28, 2001

thats not a bad idea at all ...going to cali and actually visiting the agencies then making your best deal. they are dealing right now in cali. it is a buyers market.

[pack]

... in response to Any experiences with aspiring-latin-mode..., posted by joeythecloser on Aug 27, 2001

i dont have any actual experience with aspiring latin models. however i can tell you this while i was in cali recently i did go visit their office. while there i met one of their girls and she was beautiful. i also looked through one of their books and the ladies were absolutely beautiful. it might be worth your while to at least pay them a visit.

[Viajero]

... in response to Any experiences with aspiring-latin-mode..., posted by joeythecloser on Aug 27, 2001

Joey, after reading your post I was curious, so I did a search and found the website. You're right, the girls are fabulous! But I found it interesting that there was one woman there that I'd seen on another website, and I am not talking about another marriage agency website. Let's just say that I had seen her pics on a website whose women are probably not exactly what we'd call "marriage minded".

Aspiring-Latin-Models' claim that the women are not models is untrue. This particular girl is in fact a model, and she looks pretty good without a bathing suit. I'm not saying that it's a scam, but the site's owners are either misleading potential clients or they are unaware of the types of girls they are attracting and thus passing off as quality wife material.

That being the case, I think I'd look elsewhere. Get some recommendations from the guys here who have successfully used other agency websites.

[pack]

... in response to I'd be careful if I were you!, posted by Viajero on Aug 27, 2001

yaaaaa but you know what ...you can go to any agency and find girls that are members of other questionable sites...these same type girls make the rounds.

[Viajero]

... in response to Re: I'd be careful if I were you!, posted by pack on Aug 27, 2001

Look, if a girl wants to be a model or pose nude or whatever, that's her business, and that certainly does not mean that she's not wife material. But those of us who read and post to this group frequently extoll the virtues of Latin women because they supposedly adhere to certain "traditional" values which we admire. Kinda hard for a potential Latina wife to be a member of that club if we've already seen her naked on the Internet.

But the point of my last post is this - Aspiring Latin Models claims that their women DO subscribe to those values, and further they state that the girls on their site are NOT models, but that they use that term because it evokes the idea of beauty. This is simply not the case. At least one (probably more) of these girls is a model. I've seen her naked already, which I'm sure her mother would not like to know when I meet the family for the first time.

This is either a case of misrepresentation to potential clients like Joey, or the owner(s) of that agency are too dimwitted to realize that the girls with whom they are associated have misrepresented themselves. Either way, is this the kind of agency you'd want to spend your hard-earned cash with when there are so many other agencies with good track records?

If they are in fact misrepresenting their member girls to potential clients, then it's a sure bet that the ones Joey would like to meet will all be out of town, visiting sick grandmothers, be recently engaged or just not at home each time they are called on his behalf. "But stay one more day, señor, and perhaps you'll have better luck tomorrow. May I add that extra day to your bill?"

I just don't buy it - this is a red flag. My policy is to strengthen all my advantages and weed out the liabilities. If they can't tell the truth before Joey goes to Cali, then this is a liability and should be avoided.

[pack]

... in response to Maybe so..., posted by Viajero on Aug 27, 2001

im sorry you've lost me , i dont get what you are saying. like i said before any agency can and does have some weeds in the bouquet of flowers, i know this because i have seen it and experienced it at several agencies. you cannot name even one agency that has all roses, every agency has some weeds. so i fail to understand your point are you saying only latin models has this problem? or what?

[Viajero]

... in response to Re: Maybe so..., posted by pack on Aug 27, 2001

It's really simple. Aspiring Latin Models is explicitly saying things on their site that are not true. There are no "weeds" on the site - these girls are gorgeous! But the claims they make are:

1. The girls subscribe to "traditional" values.

Probably many, even most of them do. However, some of them appear naked on porn sites. It's the responsibility of the site owners to do some investigating and drop these girls or quit making the claim that the girls subscribe to traditional values. It can't be both ways.

2. The girls are not models.

Well, some are. And dating and/or marrying a model is probably a good thing (I dated a model, and it was fun). But this is misleading to the client. There is no need to state that the girls are not models - who cares? But don't make a point to claim that the girls aren't models when in fact they are!

So what's the big deal, you might ask? Simply put, Joey and men like him (meaning men like us) deserve to know what they're getting into before they plunk down a wad of cash for an airline ticket and make a trip south. This is not a cheap trip. Add to that the investment of your hopes and dreams of finding someone special, why would anyone want to deal with someone who is telling outright lies? Doesn't make sense.

Business practices like this are prosecuted in the courts in our country. Granted, ALM's lies may be small ones, but why should they be rewarded for telling them? I am merely answering Joey's post by saying that he is considering spending money with someone who does not deserve it. Better he should spend it with agencies that have proven themselves and treated members of this forum fairly and with integrity.

And yes, you're right. Many of the girls "make the rounds" of the various agencies. Why shouldn't they? More exposure increases their chances of meeting some nice guy and starting the life they want.

And it's reasonable to expect that the occasional scam artist or prostitute flies in under the radar from time to time. When that happens, those of us who have knowledge of that should warn the others who read these posts. This is my warning - it appears to me that ALM is either scamming potential clients or are themselves being scammed. If this is not the case, they need to get a little more business savvy and straighten out their marketing approach before they can expect to make any money, because other agencies with more smarts, more experience and more integrity will put them out of business.

[HappyIdiot]

... in response to The Point is...they're lying!, posted by Viajero on Aug 28, 2001

Sorry to pick a phrase out of what you are saying, but I think we also have a responsibility to make some judgement on if a person is sincere or not, if a business delivers value or not.  If someone wants to fly by the seat of their pants, and go down there without making any prior contacts or prequalifying the people they are interested in, then no need to blame others when they are subject to the obvious risks.  I would think this particular agency/website would have many red (or maybe yellow) flags, if someone wanted to see them.  The only surprising thing to me is that people would ignore them, when there are more reputable options.

[Patrick]

... in response to The Point is...they're lying!, posted by Viajero on Aug 28, 2001

They say at their site...

"Several of them [the ladies] have been previously employed in the Television and/or Fashion industry. These women are no longer involved in those businesses..."

So, it sounds like some are former models.  Perhaps you've seen some of their previous work?  I think you're grasping at straws on this.  Granted, the owner has a bad reputation for verbally abusing clients and the price is quite high, but saying they're "lying" when they say the women are not models sounds like nit-picking to me.

If I were looking, I'd stay away from this agency simply because I think very beautiful women tend to be very high maintainance.  I've dated some really attractive women before and I didn't see much in the way of character in many of them.

[rubio]

... in response to Actually..., posted by Patrick on Aug 28, 2001

patrick
you are right generally speaking, beautiful women are 'typically" high maintanance. but we both know generalizing can be dangerous. i also have been with very attractive women and some are very high maintanance. but i have been with some that are half way down to earth too. but i do agree that the odds with a non-model are better

[Viajero]

... in response to Actually..., posted by Patrick on Aug 28, 2001

*L* This seems to be a case of true meaning getting lost in the fog of cyberspace. If we were all having this discussion in real life I wouldn't sound so rabid.

Let me summarize then I'll get off my pulpit. I may be naive, but I take people's word for things. If a businessman represents his product in a certain light, I take that for face value unless I have reason to believe otherwise. I conduct my business with integrity, and I expect others to do likewise.

It's not about the girls, it's about the business. I submit to you that at least 2 of the girls never once walked into ALM's office (or anyone else's). I know that their photos came from a stock house, a business which specializes in selling photos to commercial enterprises. In other words, some of those girls do not even exist, and Joey has no hope, ever, of meeting them. If he sends money for their addresses, I think he will have been taken for a ride. Personally, I think I'd like to be warned of a potential rip-off agency.

ALM is saying that these girls want to meet/date/marry nice men. Every other dating and marriage site makes the same claim. The point is, I tend to believe that the others are acting with integrity and ALM is not. I suggest that Joey patronize those agencies that have served the members of this forum well and leave ALM alone.

[pack]

... in response to 1. Open my mouth  2. Insert Foot, posted by Viajero on Aug 28, 2001

o k...which two girls?