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Author Topic: Cartagena Trip  (Read 13685 times)
cdrab
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Cartagena Trip ---Followup of my..., posted by dmohio on Jul 28, 2001

I stayed at the Marazul (Very nice place) which is one of four all inclusives
in San Andres which you can move around to stay at anyone of the four or eat at anyone of the four as long as you let the reservation office know in the morning.
the all inclusive price for 5nights 6 days including airfair from Cali was 2044000 pesos.
rented some motorcycles and toured the Island which can be done safely. Apparently there is very little crime there.
Be aware that when you rent motorcycles and stop at the scenic areas there will be locals that run up to you and want to provide you with all kinds of help for money.
The one thing that still is fresh in my memory was we stopped at the public beach and this guy comes running up with a green coconut and said here is a present for the pretty lady and proceeded to cut the top off the coconut and said drink the coconut milk, and then he said here I will get one for you , First I said how much, he said no just a present. So I said OK , well up the tree he went and picked another coconut and brought it over. Then he said OK that will be 4000 peso's. I said I thought that it was a present and he said that what he did was the present but we had to pay for the coconuts.
But overall it was incredible there is a place you can scuba dive and the tropical fish will eat out of your hands, have some cocaloco's, and eat fresh fish on small local islands.
If you have specific details just ask
Clint
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Pete E
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Cartagena Trip ---Followup of my..., posted by dmohio on Jul 28, 2001

We went to San Andreas(An island in the Carribean about 400 miles north of Caretagena) as well as Cartagena on our honeymoon in February 2000.Cartegena is much more interesting but San Andreas has better beaches and more of a beach resort type feeling.It is also a duty free port,and they have many many stores.The whole small central city,maybe 12 blocks square is shops selling just about everything,clothes,shoes,electronic items.I understand alot of Colombians go there to shop and carry suitcases full of goodies back home.I bought New Balence running shoes for $22.
The island is small,maybe 5 miles by 15 miles,with the city and most hotels on the south eastern tip.There is a full range of hotels,from small but nice looking family tpye ones,where alot of Colmbians stay,to the big beach resorts.I would bet you could find small nice hotels for $30-$40.The whole place is very clean,no slummy areas.Its mostly a beach hangout,not much else to see.
We arranged our trip through a travel agent in Bogota.This is a good idea in general but we didn't do too well.My US travel agent didn't want to mess with it,he said do it in Colombia.We were trying to book for only 2 days or so ahead and the good deals were gone.Some of the hotels offer an "all inclusive" deal that includes 2 or 3 meals a day.This can be had for about the price of the room if you just walk in.The main hotels on this plan were booked.We booked a room in a place we were told was 5 miniutes from town,very private and nice,I forget the name.We paid in advance but for some stupid reason were supposed to pick up our hotel vouchers at the airport in
Bogota.I had trouble finding there office and when I did no one seemed to know what I was talking about.We were about to miss our plane so we just went without the voucher.I figured between the hotel and the travel agent they could get it figured out.When we got to San Andreas we took a taxi to the hotel,about 20 miniutes out of town,through small neiborhoods.There it was on a hill,no beaches.It looked OK but we didn't even go in,we wanted to be on the beach.I told the driver to take us to the hotels on the beach.We liked the Sunrise,one of 2 first class  hotels on the island.We paid about 200,000 pesos a night,about $110 at the time but it would be $90 now if they didn't change the peso price.It is a beautifull hotel,right on the beach,big pool built in a dock over the ocean,nice beach.
The second day we checked out the Aquarium,the other first class hotel.It was also very nice but I liked the setting at the Sunrise better.We could have stayed at the Aquarium for about $120 all inclusive but they were booked.
We never did get reimbursed for the room at the other hotel.I think I paid $300 for 4 nights.
The other way the travel agent screwed us up is they said we couldn't fly from San Andres to Cartagena,we had to go back through Bogota,Wrong.There are 2 local airlines that make that trip.I bet they knew about them but didn't tell us to make more money.We flew a local flight to Cartagena and got reimbursed for our legs from San Andres to Bogota and Bogota back to Cartagena.The flight cost about $80 each.The problem was it was supposed to leave at 9.00AM and actually left ay 8PM.At least we got warned of this around 10AM and went back to the beach.
We met a driver who hangs out in front of the Hotel Sunrise,I want to say his name was Abner,or something like that.He was a great guy,showed us the whole island and was the one to clue us in on the airplane situation,and also had a relative meet us when we went to Providencia.He,like most island locals,was a black don't worry be happy Jamican type guy.Very casual and friendly.The island was originally a British possesion,so the locals speak perfect english and spanish.The island got given to Colombia somehow about 50 years ago.The locals are not to happy about this.Abner and the others drivers drove big full size chevys,not like the rest of Colombia.I guess they can get them from the states used where this is not allowed in the rest of Colombia.
About Providencia,a smaller island 50 miles or so away.I would pass on it,nothing much there,unless you want to scuba dive.Nothing approaching a good hotel,no hot water.
We ate dinner at a little restaurant on the beach and were swarmed with mosquitos.I wish I would have added the 2 days to Cartagena.We spent 4 days in San Andres,2 days in Providencia and 3 days in Cartagena.I would go back to Cartagena first,we didn't see it all.
I guess I would characterize San Andres as a Caribean beach resort that is much less expensive than most of the Carribean.If I had only 3 or 4 days I would spend it in Caragena.If you have more time or want the beach resort atmosphere,go to San Andres.

Pete

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dmohio
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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re:  About San Andres, posted by Pete E on Jul 28, 2001

Pete,

Thank you for the good information. Excellent post.

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JunFan
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Cartagena Trip ---Followup of my..., posted by dmohio on Jul 28, 2001

About BQ, I'm going to get my novia next week but I won't be hanging out. In and out and nobody gets hurt..lol.

I stayed at the Prado last time and it and the Puerta del Sol are supposed to be the best.  I think I will stay the night at the latter this time to check it out.

The Prado runs about $100 per night, and is pretty nice but not near as nice as Santa Clara in Cartagena.  I guess it's just different, but it has a great pool and restaurants.  It's kinda a throwback to the twenties with an elevator complete with attendant to operate it...kinda makes you feel like you are in an Ernest Hemmingway-type setting.

Can't help you on airfares because I had to buy mine at the last minute because we had to make certain she got her visa ok....don't ask how much it cost.  I also think part of the reason is that now is peak travel season for South Americans and Europeans....

Mike

www.sparhard.com/colombia.htm

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dmohio
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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Cartagena Trip ---Followup o..., posted by JunFan on Jul 28, 2001

Mike,

Thank you for the reply again.

I was actually looking for San Andres hotel and airfare info. Have you and your novia or acquaintences done the San Andres trip from B/Q? I'd love to get your insight and your novia's thoughts on whether San Andres is worth the exta hassle to travel to from B/Q, relative to just visiting Santa Marta in conjunction with B/Q.

I understand that the most common airline for the B/Q to San Andres round trip is SAM, a subsidiary of Avianca. I also understand that SAM is notoriously late on the return leg. I was wondering if you or an acquaintence had heard of another option to SAM or how best to negotiate with SAM or Avianca.

Even more importantly, the hotel info on San Andres is very variable. Decameron appears to think they have the foreign tourist market locked up at high prices (like $150 + per night, albeit all inclusive). Decameron has five affiliated sites. Do you know anything about San Andres hotels that are not affiliated with the Decameron chain? Do you think an October visit for 3 days to San Andres is a good plan, or is this too short a trip?

Just to share B/Q hotel info, I plan to use the same place as before...the Hotel Puerto el Sol. Prior rates were at about $70 mid-week for an experience that is at least as good as a decent Holiday Inn.

Again, thank you very much for your help in the past.

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JunFan
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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Cartagena Trip ---Follow..., posted by dmohio on Jul 28, 2001

Looks like JunFan is unable to be of assistance on this one.  I'm sure someone will be able to help.  If not, I do know that it is an awesome place to go, especially with your novia.  

If you don't find anything, go down there anyway and blaze the trail for us.  I think when Beatriz and I visit the family in Colombia in the future, I will try to wrap a trip to San Andres around my visits to BQ.  

Buena suerte,
Mike

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Mike,
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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to sorry man, posted by JunFan on Jul 28, 2001

I will visit either San Andres or Santa Marta with the girl from B/Q, in October. It would only be fair to let you know how either location works out. Pete's report looks great. I hope I can add to it after October.

Thank you for your help in learning about B/Q and Cartagena. Best wishes with your imminent trip and the subsequent domestic changes.

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dmohio
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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: sorry man, posted by Mike, on Jul 28, 2001

Mike,

Sorry about the Name in the above post. It got fouled up. The above message about passing along information about San Andres or Santa Marta after October, was from dm in ohio, again.

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Houndog
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« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: sorry man, posted by dmohio on Jul 28, 2001

Speakin of Ohio....make sure you tell your girl somehow that Ohio gets cold. My wife got to Houston in June/July...and was cold (muy frio) the first month just with the A/C on. LOL. And talking to her on the phone one would have thought she was going to freeze to death when she was in Bogota. One of her best friends (a cousin) is marrying a guy from Wisconson in a couple months....boy will she be in for a surprise come winter.

HD

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dmohio
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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: sorry man, posted by Houndog on Jul 28, 2001

HD, believe it or not, I have tried to hit that highlight with her many times. She has acquaintencances who married Americans that live in the northern US and one in Canada, near Toronto. I have great concern about this issue, although she expresses confidence she will wear "dos abrigos" to successfully mitigate the problem.
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Houndog
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2001, 04:00:00 AM »

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: sorry man, posted by dmohio on Jul 28, 2001

Man you're way ahead of the game ! The other thread (about money) reminded me about 'talking about issues in advance'. And cold weather 'could be' an issue. But if your girl knows and has resolved to deal with it you're on the right track. Believe me it gets cold here in Houston also. In the 30's is common..and every few years a week of high 20's. Just without the snow..LOL.

Regards, HD

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