Mexican Women for Southern California Men

[Houndog]

... in response to Re: Take a deep breath....., posted by Craig on Jun 7, 2001

Actually I agee with him on a few points...however in my case I came to different conclusions than he did.

For example...I don't think Malls or Cali or Colombia neccesarily are The El Dorado( El Dorado was the  Magic City of Solid Gold sought by the Conquestadors) some try to make them out to be ! and I met a few ladies at an agency that definately had attitudes I wanted nothing to do with.

I also partially agree with you that there are MANY beautiful sweet wonderful women in Colombia and I've had brainstorms wanting to start a business in Cartagena myself so I can retire/move there.....so...in some ways you are both right and wrong IMO...just goes to show that we all see things a little different.

However....discussion, disagreements and arguments are a Natural Part of a healthy normal learning environment with guys in this type of venue. IMO. We all (except Trolls) have a different perspective and different past, present life experiences and goals that when shared openly and applied correctly can help form and shape our future chances of success and happiness.

HD

[Hamlet]

... in response to Mexican Women for Southern California Me..., posted by Richard Smith on Jun 6, 2001

I have heard some in this forum counsel against it, but I have developed relationships with what appear to be excellent marriage prospects via letter writing and by posting my ad in a magazine distributed in various South and Central American countries.

The only drawback is that the women are not concentrated in one city or even one country, so it will take more time to meet them all.  I think I can do it, however, with a three-month vacation I will begin next month.  And the bonus is that I get to tour six countries.

Mixing a line from Robert Frost's "The Road Not Taken" with the reference to dogs marking their territory was genius.

[Patrick]

... in response to Mexican Women for Southern California Me..., posted by Richard Smith on Jun 6, 2001

If I were in your shoes, I'd place my own personal ads in  Mexican newspapers.  I believe El Norte and El Sol de Monterrey may be good ones to place the ads.  I had ads placed several years ago in Monterrey, Mexicali, and Chihuahua.  At one point I was receiving 20-30 letters per day.  However, my ad (incorrectly) stated that I had blond hair and blue eyes, which I believe the service I was using did intentionally to increase the response rate.  For some reason personal ads in Tijuana never have seemed to do well.  I was either 34 or 35 at the time, an electrical engineer, semi-proficient in Spanish and was looking for a woman from 25-35.

By the way, although I married a great woman from Cali, it was a relationship with a Mexican woman I met beside a pool in San Diego who was up from Mexico visiting cousins that initially got me interested in Latin women.

Good luck, and please let everybody know how you're doing in your attempts to meet women sans agency.  I know many guys are interested in that, but I haven't heard many stories.

[FredFresno]

... in response to Re: Mexican Women for Southern Californi..., posted by Patrick on Jun 6, 2001

From a San Joaquin Valley perspective, much of the appeal of TJ is that it would be possible to travel down there frequently and less expensively (i.e., by car) and take a little more time to get to know someone.  From here, much of that advantage is lost when considering other places in Mexico.  Plane tickets from Fresno to Mexico City or Guadalajara are reasonably economical (i.e., half to 2/3 the price of tickets to Bogota), and even Hermosilla isn't too bad.  But, the last time I checked, ticket prices to Monterrey and some other Mexican destinations start to rival the cost of tickets to Bogota.

[TexRob]

... in response to Re: Re: Mexican Women for Southern Calif..., posted by FredFresno on Jun 6, 2001

From Dallas to Mexico City, Monterrey, etc is often between 220 to 300 bucks round trip.  Monterrey is a nice city and I enjoy going there, but it is really not much differt than a US city.  I have noticed that flights to Mazatlan are much cheaper flying from LA or Phoenix than leaving from DFW.  Mazatlan is a very friendly city, nice beach, and many Mexican people take their vacations there.  Mazatlan has some very beautiful women.  I would not recommend the border towns.  The interior is a much better bet I think.

[Craig]

... in response to Mexican Women for Southern California Me..., posted by Richard Smith on Jun 6, 2001

Sorry Richard you had a difficult time in Cali. Each time I read a post like yours I wonder If I got off at the wrong city, and wound up in some other place then Cali. I feel lucky though for I don't have the same hardships that you deal with, by living on the West coast. Living here in Florida it takes longer to drive to Miami, then the flight to Cali, Colombia (I live near Orlando). I can't explain why you didn't find the women in Cali attractive. The second I get off the plane and get the chance to see all the women outside waiting for the arrivals I go into sensory overload....from the copious amount of beautiful women. There are so many things to due in Cali. Even walking around the mall at Uni Central having the girls check you out, cause they know your a gringo is such an ego booster. Attending a few parties when I was there last week I noticed a number of Gringo's just leaning against the wall's when the Salsa was pounding, there were all these beautiful women just sitting in chairs waiting to be asked to dance. They didn't ask, they just stood there......I don't understand what they were expecting, that the ladies were gonna ask them? When I met my novia, I looked like a wrecked train....but I still asked her to lunch....over a Budwiser....I held her hand.....and we smiled at each other for 2 hours...My point nothing would have happened unless I took the chance, and asked her out. She wasn't even in an agency yet.........It would have been a missed opportunity for me, a mistake of a lifetime........one moment can change your life......you just need to act, and put fears aside.  Are you one of those guys leaning against the wall? Best of luck ..............Craig

[Richard Smith]

... in response to Re: Mexican Women for Southern Californi..., posted by Craig on Jun 6, 2001

I respect your right to express your opinion and we all have different views of the world like the proverbial blind men trying to describe the Elephant.  But, the women do not check Gringos out in the shopping mall.  At most, they are just curious because they don't see many Gringos down there.  Similar, to the way people looked at me when I was in China last year.  They may look for a second but then go back to things much more important to them like shopping.  I just state this for the record because some poor guy reading it may be suckered into going to Cali.

[Craig]

... in response to Re: Re: Mexican Women for Southern Calif..., posted by Richard Smith on Jun 6, 2001

I couldn't disagree with you more, and the reason I'm responding to your post Richard. I firmly believe if you travel to Cali, and return with the attitude you have developed that you are odd case. Most men I see in Cali are frequent returners, who have mind sessions trying to figure out ways they can start business in Cali so they can stay year round. The girls do...I repeat do ... check out the gringo's......and flirt. They see many gringo's down in Cali, and they are attracted to our look especially if you are light skinned, or light eyed. They love the attention American men give them, and the way we treat them as women. The city is full of energy, and culture. I usually hate returning to the states, and believe me I love this country. I hope people reading this list can see that your experience is unique, and that you are the exception.

[Richard Smith]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Mexican Women for Southern C..., posted by Craig on Jun 6, 2001

I apologize in advance to Patrick for responding to this because arguments takes up valuable bandwidth and don't contribute any further knowledge.  But I feel it is important because people may be misled.  Without saying you are right or wrong, I just ask men to evaluate your response with a skeptical eye.  I have no stake in this since I will never return to Cali.  I was actually writing to stimulate thought in Mexico.  I reported what I honestly saw and seriously question whether I am an exception.  And neither of us has the resources to make statistical statements.  In any case, you can have the last word.  I will not respond further.   I promise.

[Hoda]

... in response to Re: Re: Re: Re: Mexican Women for Southe..., posted by Richard Smith on Jun 6, 2001

All you have to do, is review the archives and read the most recent post of men who post here about their success in Colombia. Of course, there are failures also. There are no guarantees ANYWHERE. Just because Mexico is closer to where you're living at, doesn't guarantee success...Sorry!

Good luck wherever you go....

[Jeff S]

... in response to Mexican Women for Southern California Me..., posted by Richard Smith on Jun 6, 2001

You're right, Tijuana has many possibilities. I have a good friend who just brought his new wife up from TJ (he's 50 - she's 22). While things down there in the past were mostly geared toward the tourist trade (or maybe how to extract the maximum amount of dollars from the tourist) these days there's a substantial industrial base there. I used to manage a twin plant, one in Irvine and the other in Tijuana, and there are more and more workers, both educated office workers and factory workers coming from the interior to work in the maquiladoras - many are young women.

I'm married so am not chasing, but still spend a lot of time in TJ with business associates. E-mail me at jspira@gte.net if you'd like to discuss it.

-- Jeff S.

[Ruben]

... in response to Mexican Women for Southern California Me..., posted by Richard Smith on Jun 6, 2001

You could have tryed Aveonca airlines, they have derrect flights from LAX to Bogota with a one hour layover to Cali.

I live in West Los Angeles and I am Hispanic/American from mexico. I rather go Columbia than mexico any day. Yes they are lots of women in Mexico, But the good ones can marry well because of the economy and the ratio of women to men is very close.

What agency did you use?

why did't you go to Bogota? There are other ways of going about your search. I sence you have a nagative sprite, yes you did spend some $$ and you got some experice, but how much is a good women worth?

            -Ruben

[JUAN]

... in response to Re: Mexican Women for Southern Californi..., posted by Ruben on Jun 6, 2001

Since you are a fellow latino I  thought you'd be the best one to answer my questions, I'm from El Salvador, I'd appreciate it if you'd tell me how Colombiana's feel about non-gringo men, non-colombian latinos in Colombia.

Do many non-Colombian latinos go down to Colombia? Do the ladies hold any biases?  

I'm single again, my spanish is good but not great, I read the posts on this site by guys talking about the calenas, I've heard other latinos talk about the beauty of the calenas......I've GOT to see for myself but have been hesitant to go.

Will I be well received?

To the originator of this thread, there are beautiful women in EVERY LA country but from what I've seen and heard I have to say you are wrong about Colombian women, can so many guys be wrong?

[Ruben]

... in response to Ruben, a question, posted by JUAN on Jun 7, 2001

Dear Juan,

The times I have been to Columbia I have never had any problem meeting women down there. Infact I get a lot of women asking to meet me. I have run into men from Mexico looking for wives in Bogota. It all depends on how you carry yourself, I seen one guy who was very well off and looked like an actor that the ladies after adout 5 mins. would lost interest in him because he was stuck on himself.
The guy would ware tight shirts to show his muscles and talk like a punk!

Note: try to stay with ladies over age 25, they seem to be more mature and looking for a man and not a boy.

Spend a lot of time with then, don't get marred your first or secound trip out. People seem to changed over time, as any place in the world there are sharks in Columbia also ... and they are the BEST ACTRESS you will ever see.

Columbia has an unspoken class system they look on how you dress, carry yourself, your education, your profession.

In Beverly Hills you can dress like a tramp and get good service because they know it's not how you look it's what you have in your pockits. People here have experience with someone walking into a store in shorts and a t-shirt and spending 2, 3, $4,000.00 ... In the Columben finer stores they first look how you dress to see if you have any money.

And a lot of the ladies are the same way.

[JUAN]

... in response to Re: Ruben, a question, posted by Ruben on Jun 7, 2001

Ruben, I'm looking for a girl younger than me, someone around 18-23 years of age,  I'm  not going to use an agency, I'm  just planning on going on my own account and try meeting some young ladies in regular every day situations or when I go dancing at the nightclubs.

Junfan, looks like your friend won't be  planning on going back to Colombia any time soon, I can believe that some Colombian women might hold those feelings towards Mexicans but all of them? Maybe he was too shy or he came on too strong to them.