The Truth about FSU Women

[Felinessa]

... in response to The Truth about FSU Women, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 16, 2005

Thank you for being so fair and positive.  Everything you said makes a lot of sense and gives a great perspective.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: The Truth about FSU Women, posted by Felinessa on Jun 16, 2005

n/t

[tim360z]

... in response to The Truth about FSU Women, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 16, 2005

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[david hagar]

... in response to Excellent Post Mark  n/t, posted by tim360z on Jun 16, 2005

great post

Beattledog

[Streetwise]

... in response to The Truth about FSU Women, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 16, 2005

Cheers Mark, good to hear from you. Your information is based on first-hand positive experience, which gives it a lot of  weight, and your observations about the survival instinct are "right on the money" (viz. my earlier post about the Latvian girl I started a relationship with.)

Question (if you don't mind me asking...) did Viktoria come from a loving family (parents, aunts, uncles etc) and/or a good circle of friends? I presume so, as I recall she was eager to visit a lot of people with you, when you returned to Kherson together.

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Good information, posted by Streetwise on Jun 16, 2005

Hmmm... that's a hard one to answer, to be honest.

Viktoriya has a good relationship with her father. Her mother is a bit of a challenge though for a couple of reasons...

Of course she wanted to introduce me to friends and family, but I don't know that I would say she had a large circle of friends in Ukraine, or that she was close to her relatives.

A lot of it has to do with personalities. My wife is a bit of an introvert. In Kherson she had one very good friend, and that was about it.

Here, she doesn't have any close Ukrainian or Russian girlfriends... but that is by choice. She is very picky and choosey about who she spends time with. She won't spend time with someone who just wants to talk about trivial things... or who wants to sit around and run down their husbands, or America.

There are a couple of women who are more artistic, and she enjoys chatting with them. But she doesn't have a bunch of girlfriends here. She doesn't want them. Several of the local women we've met have reached out to her... but she is (she says) too busy to have a lot of friends right now. She says that I am her friend, and that is all she needs or wants... She does wish that she could find some friends who liked going out dancing with us... but the challenge there is that she means "couples" and most of the men who married the FSU women are not in any kind of shape to come out dancing with us.

But, really, Viktoriya's current passion in life is decorating, since she has a house now. And that occupies much of her time... We've had some women stop by to visit from time to time... and she enjoys about 30 minutes of the visit... then she wishes that they would leave so she can get back to her projects.

I read the post that said a woman's character is the most important thing, and I agree with that.

But I'm not sure that a woman's character can be determined by how many close friends she has.

My ex-wife, for example, had a lot of friends. She was universially loved by a lot of people. She made friends effortlessly. Unfortunately, she also cheated on me (and the other three husbands she had before me...) So, I wouldn't say that a person's character could be determined by how many friends she has...

The best thing you can do is spend some time, and get to know her... and then take a chance and pray to God...

[Streetwise]

... in response to Re: Good information, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 16, 2005

Thanks for the insight, well, that puts my new Mantra into perspective! Come to think of it, I was dating an Italian girl once, and she was also very family oriented and popular with a wide social circle; she became a little too popular as it turned out, but to be fair it was not part of a calculated pre-planned stategy on her part, which is what we have been discussing here.

Looks like you put some careful thought into your wife's adjustment to the new life and it has clearly paid off. Best wishes to you both!

[MarkInTx]

... in response to Re: Re: Good information, posted by Streetwise on Jun 16, 2005

I think your idea is not a bad one...

You just need to be able to imprprovise once you get there.

Which General said: "All the battle-plans go to hell the minute the shooting starts and people start bleeding..."

The point is that some guys treat this like Chess. All you need is a set of the right opening moves, and you'll be fine.

But it isn't like that.

It's more like sailing.

You need to be not afraid of the water and ready to change course if the winds change.

IMHO.

[Patrick]

... in response to The Truth about FSU Women, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 16, 2005

Especially the fact that there can be bad people on either side of the marriage.   It's generally assumed on the forum that's it's the men who have to watch out.  In reality, it's both.

[Jwood66]

... in response to The Truth about FSU Women, posted by MarkInTx on Jun 16, 2005

Thanks Mark.....Its about time someone with some well experienced common sense posted... instead of these Knee Jerking Guys who are suddenly on the blame game bandwagon.... Felinessa thanks for the great idea about the education route, yes I actually know some women who used this approach and prolonged their stays in the US, but after 911 its alot tougher to do it, but still possible.....