Frank you know what happened....

[wsbill]

You posted too much information on the internet about your girl.

No doubt, the russian mafia is probably holding her family for ransom and are calling the shots.

But the real irony you make yourself out to be a clueless nitwit when in fact alot of the things you say about russian words and such... I haven't ever heard before... and everybody here knows I've been on this board a long time!

[Frank O]

... in response to Frank you know what happened...., posted by wsbill on May 24, 2005

hey look I'm going through hell right now. I don't know you & I KNOW I made mistakes but right now I'd like you to back off. I figure some here can learn from me ignoring red flags. I'm NOT up to this wsbill.

[ARTILLARY]

... in response to Please I AM going through problems..., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005

Frank, Ive been following this Saga. You have admitted making mistakes and seeing red flags and wishing you had listened to Jack. But what am I hearing from you? Buti love this women and she means soo much to me all the while she's wanting to give you a screwin. When are you going to BREAK the pattern man!!!!! Come man, show us you have some huevos. It's a shame you're going through us but it's time to srew your head on straight and see it for what it really is. I'm wishing you lots of luck but you need to do the right thing now before you accumulate anyhing after marriage. It's good your in Teaxas. Take advantage of it.

[tim360z]

... in response to Please I AM going through problems..., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005

Sounds like you got a real Ukrainian viper on your hands?  Make sure your legal and economic butt is covered,  she has received some advice from somewhere.  Quite the actress,  as some women can be.  Her agenda was planned long before she came here.  I think it was only 10 days ago you posted that she was finally coming and you were looking forward to her arrival.  

This is painful for you,  I know.  This is a time when you need all your wits to get through this period.  You want a good lawyer working for you right now.  The faster she gets on a plane,  the better for you.  Otherwise,  she could use our laws against you.

Be scrupulous.  In everything.  Next thing you know she will charge you with domestic violence and then you got problems.  I'm serious.  She probably was coached.

Get her back to Mama.  Understand that alot is going on which you never posted.  Sobering stuff, when the dust has cleared please post the real story.  Maybe it'll save a couple guys necks.
Hang in there, Tim

[Frank O]

... in response to Hang in there Frank!, posted by tim360z on May 24, 2005

I've got a MAJOR problem. You know it DOES hurt to go on here & post about this. I'm NOT proud by any means but I do it so NO ONE ELSE EVER has to go through this. I MYSELF read countless stories of this happening to other people. Jack himself even washed his hands of this situation weeks/months back. Honestly I WAS too emotionally involved. Of course MY situation wouldn't end like that. My wife was NOT like that...I could go on & on. But in the end the bulk of what people said came through.
I do have an atty & I am taking care of my butt every which way.
I guess I'm afraid of what might happene to HER. I STILL love this girl. That's the sick part of it. I keep thinking she gave up school for me...what is she going to do now? You know I shouldn't give a rat's behind but I do. I even offered her $2K to go back & start over but NO she wants $9K. She is being schooled by her MOTHER. Her mother has been a bone of contention since almost the start.She tells Diana there are "5 VERY Good attorney in New York" just ready to take this case on FOR FREE. I'm going to be out of work, I'm going to lose everything blah blah blah. She eats it all up.
Very sad. I just want her home safe with her family. I NEVER meant to cause grief for her. I just wanted the best for her. Unfortunately she came here with a WAY different agenda from the word go.
It WAS strange to finally here her say "some things are VERY nice here in America". Coming from HER mouth THAT says a LOT!

[Travis]

... in response to the domestic violence issue HAS been rai..., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005

Frank, Your problem here is almost de ja vue. In what way was the DV issue raised? Women are told by our embassy when they receive their visa about the VAWA. So, she has had time to plan whatever it is she has planned. Speak to your attorney ASAP if you have not already done so. I think an annulment is a poor path to choose but it's your call and your attorneys. You don't want her going to NY or California, establishing residency and then filing for divorce in that venue, you want the divorce proceedings in Texas! Texas is a community property state; any property owned by you prior to the marriage is not part of the community! ie, your home. File for the divorce now, today.

As far as protection from a false DV charge, you could wear a small tape recorder on your person. Hidden of coarse. Video cameras in your home would not be a bad idea at all! Get a wireless internet router, several wireless cameras and record the video on your computer.

My ex was also being coached. Possibly the reason your wife is playing hardball with you is that she is under the impression that you cannot file for divorce. My ex thought that a divorce had to be a mutual agreement but Texas has been a no fault state for years now. When I first told my now ex I was going to file for divorce she just smiled and said "I just won't give you permission". As far as America she said she loved it but she just didn't like Americans.

[LP]

... in response to the domestic violence issue HAS been rai..., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005


...Lemme get this straight, we're talkin' about Texas here right?

Sorry, couldn't resist....

[lawcom]

... in response to the domestic violence issue HAS been rai..., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005

Be careful with this girl with her raising the violence issue.  A lot of these girls are aware of VAWA and they MAY raise the violence issue to gain an advantage.  She's asking for 9K already after just days of being here?  How can you care for a girl who's extorting money and attacking you?  She's not entitled to it, no how, no way.  And it only goes downhill from there, pal.  

You've already made a big mistake and now its time to clean up your mess.  File for an annulment (no 60 day waiting period and you may file in any Texas county) ASAP, don't give her a cent, and be done with her.

[LP]

... in response to Please I AM going through problems..., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005

...the kettle black. First it's abandon her in Mexico then it's the Russian Mafia? What's next, the infamous shallow grave? Good grief.

If she's changing her tune you need to ship her home now, assuming she'll go. If she's gone the divorce will be much easier, an exercise in paperwork. In fact it's looking like you should switch tactics and encourage her. Either way you need to get going on the divorce, protecting yourself should be your first priority. If Texas is a community property state she may well be entitled to half of anything that came your way since the marriage occured so it may be better to buy her out and send her packing. Also, Streetwise makes some good points....you wouldn't be the first guy to get suckered that way. Whatever, at this point her wanting to go back is in your best interests.

I'm sorry Frank. I could expend a lot of words on why I suspected this would happen but you don't need to hear it. All I'll say is your mistakes were obvious to someone not blinded by the light and while I agree with Patrick they have some value I also believe most guys won't learn a thing because they'll all say they're too smart. Uh huh. Lets hope they at least learn to rent before they buy. A K3 shouldn't be used unless one can spend lots of time living with a woman, same as the K1. Lets face it, you really screwed the pooch on that one. At least you're brave (for lack of a better term) enough to post all this, I doubt it'll be the same for some others whose time is coming. Regardless, it saddens me to see yet more emotional carnage in this racket that could've been avoided.

Good luck. I'm leaving for a few weeks on an unexpected mission. I'll be avoiding contact with the outside because even cynical guys like me sometimes need a vacation from all the pain and suffering out there. I hope by the time I return you'll be on your way to something better.

The rest of you try and play nice...

[Patrick]

... in response to Please I AM going through problems..., posted by Frank O on May 24, 2005

I'd say you're handling the situation better than most, so I think your story is more valuble to readers than most stories of failure.  Please continue, and thanks for contributing.